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Brexit

Westminstenders: Adrift at Sea

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RedToothBrush · 13/03/2019 14:35

After May lost the Meaningful Vote last night by a long way she has lost control of the agenda. She managed to persuade just 40 out of the 116 she needed to support here.

This leaves us all adrift with nothing apparent to a solution.

May announced that tonight's vote will be to stop No Deal. She has announced that it will be a free vote and she herself intends to vote against No Deal. This looks set to be blocked but the amendments that go with it are more important. Particularly the Spelman / Dromey amendment which is pitched to stop no deal completely (it doesn't) which is more about trying to kill off a Meaningful Vote III instead.

Tomorrow's vote is perhaps more important though. Its about an extension to a50. We NEED an extension. However the length of the extension is yet to be argued as is the purpose of the extension.

This is also against whispers that the Italian Far Right group has been lobbied by Leave.EU and Farage has directly asked Eurospectics in the EP to veto any extension. Whether this would happen remains to be seen but it certainly raises questions over an extension is even now possible. This was always a probable action; Banks & Farage have for 3 years aggitated to cause maximum problems for the government. Its also true that they only have power due to this dynamic of being a hostile force.

With No Deal so catastophic that Hammond today made the point in his Spring Budget that, if he feels there's almost nothing he'd feel able to do to mitigate the effects of what he sees as the car crash of no deal, this leaves one option on the table. Ironically it is possible that the actions of Banks and Co might be more likely to have that effect rather than to stop an extension. The question, however, would then be whether May had the guts to revoke.

We certainly have, at least, reached crunch point. Have we done so too late to make a difference? And will our new found sovereignity be twarted by Brexiteers inviting the interference of foriegn hostile forces to intervene?

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1tisILeClerc · 14/03/2019 14:36

{TalkinPaece Thu 14-Mar-19 14:30:54

FFS I've nearly missed a whole thread !}

Don't worry, there's more, several years more most likely.

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:37

Sadly yes.

Peregrina · 14/03/2019 14:43

I think revoke is the only sane option but it needs to be coupled with a plan as to how to go forward. That was the problem with the Referendum - there was a vacuum as to what to do after the vote, and nearly 3 years on we are still in a mess.

SparklySneakers · 14/03/2019 14:50

Head about to explode but have happily re-learnt how to calculate the area of a triangular prism and DD now up to date. Small one kept interrupting and I can't concentrate if there's distractions. I blame my convent school where we worked in silence at individual desks once we'd been taught how to do whatever we were doing. I loved that school and prefer to work that way now. In silence and alone. With a fountain pen.

SparklySneakers · 14/03/2019 14:50

Did someone say 5pm for votes? Bloody tea time!

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:55

REVOKE

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:56

REVOKE

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:56

REVOKE

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:56

REVOKE

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:56

REVOKE

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:56

REVOKE

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:56

REVOKE

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:57

REVOKE

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:57

REVOKE

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:57

OK, maybe a well run third referendum

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:57

OK, maybe a well run third referendum

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:57

OK, maybe a well run third referendum

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:58

but chances of that are slim

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:58

so

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:58

Revoke

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:58

is

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:58

Best

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:59

for

TalkinPaece · 14/03/2019 14:59

the future of Britain

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