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Westminstenders: Boom. The Brexit Backlash starts to hit.

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RedToothBrush · 27/08/2017 00:49

So it turns out that immigration figures that stated students overstayed were wrong. The home office knew this. And sat on it. Since 2015. Under Theresa.

That smells a bit doesn't it?

Imagine it: "Let's do lunch Paul. I'll cover up and give you a nice immigration story for your front page. In return, crown me PM."

Then tonight BOOM. Labour look like they have made a move. Soft very swishy Brexit. Even less brexity than the Beano Brexit that the Tories have been trying to announce on the quiet over the summer whilst Brexiteers are on holiday.

amp.theguardian.com/global/2017/aug/26/labour-calls-for-lengthy-transitional-period-post-brexit
Labour makes dramatic shift on Brexit and single market
Party opens clear divide with Tories, with support for free movement and paying into EU budgets for up to four years

Labour is to announce a dramatic policy shift by backing continued membership of the EU single market beyond March 2019, when Britain leaves the EU, establishing a clear dividing line with the Tories on Brexit for the first time.

In a move that positions it decisively as the party of “soft Brexit”, Labour will support full participation in the single market and customs union during a lengthy “transitional period” that it believes could last between two and four years after the day of departure, it is to announce on Sunday.

This will mean that under a Labour government the UK would continue to abide by the EU’s free movement rules, accept the jurisdiction of the European court of justice on trade and economic issues, and pay into the EU budget for a period of years after Brexit, in the hope of lessening the shock of leaving to the UK economy. In a further move that will delight many pro-EU Labour backers, Jeremy Corbyn’s party will also leave open the option of the UK remaining a member of the customs union and single market for good, beyond the end of the transitional period.

Why would Labour suddenly do this? It's not just because of the youth vote. What about their leave voters?

Faisal Islam on the subject:
2. On Labour Leavers is very very interesting and involves quite the psephological judgement re the election....
...the calculation appears to be that Labour Leave voters had the chance to vote for Theresa May's brand of Brexit, and bar 5 seats, said No
Was that because Lableave voters were already signalled "hard Brexit"? Or many millions such voters much more concerned about other things?

Have Labour been polling their voters on this?

Theresa has also apparently set her sell by date: Friday 30th August 2019.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-sets-date-shell-quit-11061894.amp
Theresa May sets date she'll quit as Prime Minister - giving herself time to see Britain through Brexit

The longer the transition and the squishier it gets, the more the more you wonder.

Mr Barnier will enjoy his coffee and newspapers tomorrow as he prepares for round two of Brexit talks starting next week.

The question on his mind most: Will David Davis remember to bring his notes this time?

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Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 31/08/2017 19:37

Mistigri

So glad you're back! Yesterday you requested that I reveal my profession and qualifications
My experience is that posters who post about brexit is that they are very shy about telling us what their job or educational background is.

Would you be so kind enough to do the same?

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 31/08/2017 19:43

HashiAsLarry
flowersginwinecake to rtb and her continuation of this little island of mainly sanity (and the others celebrate enough to take the reigns when she's not able

I think you meant reins (as in the reins on a horse) not reigns (as in Junkers reigns over the EU). Even I know that and I'm a Russian chatbot! But seriously though, I thought you Remainers were supposed to be the educated, clever ones.

OlennasWimple · 31/08/2017 19:47

Lol at the idea of everyone on an anonymous internet forum having to present their credentials in order to participate in the thread.

Me, I have an MPhil in Section Fifty-ology, am fluent in 43 languages, have worked in the NHS, large manufacturing, a small tech start up, a city bank, a car plant and was briefly a peer of the realm. And I have a European Computer Driving Licence

Can I carry on posting?

woman12345 · 31/08/2017 19:51

Knope Grin
Artisanjam What a wealth of talent Bad, mad and dangerous to know. Dacre's kinda boys.

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 31/08/2017 19:53

HashiAsLarry
In shocking news, it turns out Brits don't want to work on farms.
They'd rather spend all of their waking hours on chat forums agreeing with each other how much cleverer and better educated they are than people who might disagree with them.

RandomlyGenerated · 31/08/2017 20:00

Office hours have kicked in then.

Knope2020 · 31/08/2017 20:01

😂😂😂😂

HashiAsLarry · 31/08/2017 20:04

Indeed randomly
I'd explain the concept of autocorrect but it's too advanced a modern notion Wink

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 31/08/2017 20:07

thats

Thats a shocking choice of careers

Work on farm or spend your days in an internet forum

Artisanjam · 31/08/2017 20:08

At least you're not Hasish tonight hashi. My phone really doesn't like that word.

I wonder how often you have to type hasish to get the autocorrect to default to that.

Artisanjam · 31/08/2017 20:10

Bagsy Internet forum. I'm spending altogether far too much time dealing with excessive apples at the moment to want to farm. It's a bumper year for courgettes too but tbh I'm giving up a bit with those.

DH and the DCs pick carefully concealed courgette out of every sauce I cook so I'm going for French beans and sweet corn next year.

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 31/08/2017 20:12

OlennasWimple
Lol at the idea of everyone on an anonymous internet forum having to present their credentials in order to participate in the thread
Yes I LOL too. But apparently it's only a requirement for people who voted Leave. Remainers are allowed to retain an air of mystery

HashiAsLarry · 31/08/2017 20:14

I'd be doing that nation a service by taking the internet job kills plant just by looking at it

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 31/08/2017 20:14

thats

Remainers just arent ging to answer the question

You could have ignored it as well

RandomlyGenerated · 31/08/2017 20:14

I've got a frozen shoulder at the moment so typing on Internet forums is a lot easier than tatty picking. But less lucrative (unlike for some).

TheElementsSong · 31/08/2017 20:15

It's a bumper year for courgettes

Isn't it always a bumper year for courgettes every year? I'm always having to fend off colleagues offering plastic bags full of the things because "we seem to have too many" Grin

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 31/08/2017 20:16

I like baby courgettes

And i do a mac and cheese with sliced courgettes and tomatoes on the top

Thats nice as well

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 31/08/2017 20:17

I do not like aubergines

Artisanjam · 31/08/2017 20:18

It does always seem to be a bumper year for courgettesGrin. My dad isn't growing them this year so I thought I was safe, but no. The rhubarb is getting a bit excited as well.

Unfortunately the birds get the cherries and raspberries.

BiglyBadgers · 31/08/2017 20:18

I have pear tree that grows particularly unpleasant pears. It just drops them all over the garden to rot until we have to go out and pick them up off the grass. I'm a terrible gardener though.

Thatssomecatchthatcatch22 · 31/08/2017 20:19

Yes but of I had ignored it, there would have been endless tirades of "why are you being so shy?? Clearly you must be embarrassed by how much more qualified we Remainers are."

RandomlyGenerated · 31/08/2017 20:19

Courgettes are the work of the devil. You can't even barbecue them to make them edible.

TheElementsSong · 31/08/2017 20:19

I love aubergines. Stir-fried with sambal, or with Sichuan "sea"-spices. Wonderful.

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