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The Brexit Arms goes forth! All welcome. Leavers, Remainers, Couldn't give a Tossers, & openly gay athletes.

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surferjet · 04/11/2016 22:41

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autumnintheair · 08/11/2016 16:29

and lots of lovely people, really inclusive multicultural atmosphere

I would expect the same at a brexit march, seeing as brexit attracted a multi cultural range of people to vote OUT.

Accio I know Grin I just like to keep pointing out the so called socialists do dont have a clean slate National socialists anyone?

vulpeculaveritas · 08/11/2016 16:33

It would make some things easier, not all, I think Obama is to be admired for the way he has managed to deal with an extremely obstructive house, especially in the last few months with the supreme court stuff going on.

WinchesterWoman · 08/11/2016 16:34

Actually remainers have aggressively campaigned to subvert democracy and are still doing so.

vulpeculaveritas · 08/11/2016 16:35

Really, where has democracy been subverted?

Kaija · 08/11/2016 16:35

Actually I think that particular use of the phrase "subvert democracy" might well be an attempt to subvert democracy itself.

autumnintheair · 08/11/2016 16:36

I'm on the ginger wine for it's warming effects Has anyone tried Kings Ginger?

Accio that ridiculous article.

"I want to see an alliance of the left and the radical centre on the streets"

I think he will see them on the streets as maybe he doesnt realise Brexit went cross party? I imagine John Mcdonell etc will all be out marching along side Farage? Along with many other left wingers?

Honestly!

WinchesterWoman · 08/11/2016 16:36

No not bollocks, it definitely will happen. Sj warriors have a firm 'end justifies the means' conviction aligned with their send if moral superiority. You see it on these threads. It's stop at nothing.

autumnintheair · 08/11/2016 16:38

WW I didn't realise there is actually a thing in politics, that wants to subvert the ordinary voter because they don't know enough.

"The elites need to rise up agaisnt the masses" sort of thing.

Shall we go and march with our MN placards

WinchesterWoman · 08/11/2016 16:39

Also you have the hobby protesters, lots of them

autumnintheair · 08/11/2016 16:39

WW Indeed, anyone is expendable if they get in the way of the great ideology...

vulpeculaveritas · 08/11/2016 16:42

Sorry WW all I've seen on these threads is fairly reasoned debate from most posters, the whole "moral superiority" thing isn't that evident.

"The elites need to rise up agaisnt the masses" sort of thing"

This is another example of stuff no one has said, it certainly wasn't in the Paul Mason article.

I'd agree with Kaja.

WinchesterWoman · 08/11/2016 16:48

Yes very evident, all the name calling and insults

vulpeculaveritas · 08/11/2016 16:50

I'm not sure you can say that your side, or even you are not guilty of that. People from your side have called the others traitors, you've accused others of trying to subvert democracy.

I did ask you how?

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 08/11/2016 16:50

Hang on, are we self-styled moral elites, or aggressive rabble rousers cynically stirring up violence, or zealots blinded to democratic values in our desire for a scrap, or what?

I think if you really think a leave March would be multicultural and friendly, you're actually a bit mad. A whole city full of brexiteers on the march would terrify me. And I'm white and clearly British: God alone knows how anyone who wasn't would feel!

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 08/11/2016 16:51

WW Indeed, anyone is expendable if they get in the way of the great ideology...

Such as, for example, judges.

autumnintheair · 08/11/2016 16:52

This is not a right/left issue albeit that the ultra right who oppose all immigration are clearly on the "side" of Leave. I have no idea what "side" other more anarchy groups may be on .....but I suspect that they will attend too

Indeed we have seen the violence the "No Border Group" has perpetrated in the Calais Jungle, its their job it seems to cause violence and stir up trouble.

autumnintheair · 08/11/2016 16:53

I think if you really think a leave March would be multicultural and friendly, you're actually a bit mad

How odd, do you seriously think only white people voted for Brexit, really?

Petronius16 · 08/11/2016 16:53

Has anyone tried Kings Ginger? Yes, a good mixer.

Subvert democracy? Don't think Remainers have done that.

In 2010 a committee of the House of Lords made recommendations on Referendum – HL paper 99. In its response to the recommendations the government asserted: “Under the UK's constitutional arrangements parliament must be responsible for deciding whether or not to take action in response to a referendum result." Letter in today's Guardian from Dr David Lowry.

autumnintheair · 08/11/2016 16:55

There is some strange paranoia going on here, do you think they are going to kill all judges now? Really?

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 08/11/2016 16:55

Accio I know  I just like to keep pointing out the so called socialists do dont have a clean slate National socialists anyone?

Okay, have just a tiny tiny little think about that. Compare and contrast the leave argument in the tabloids with the remain in the newspapers. Look at the discourse around immigration and refugees. Look at the 'enemies of the state' headline. And then tell me who, if anyone, reminds you more of the national socialists.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 08/11/2016 16:56

How odd, do you seriously think only white people voted for Brexit, really?

No, I think there are stupid people of all races - what I'm saying is that it's not white British people who've been attacked on the streets after the vote.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 08/11/2016 16:58

There is some strange paranoia going on here, do you think they are going to kill all judges now? Really?

What, but 'socialists will stop at nothing, anyone is expendable' isn't paranoid? Do you think they are going to kill all leavers now? Really?

twofingerstoGideon · 08/11/2016 17:00

Yes very evident, all the name calling and insults
WW - that really is the pot calling the kettle black. Your vile posts to me had to be removed (although I'm still wondering what a 'nobler' is).

Kaija · 08/11/2016 17:07

"Okay, have just a tiny tiny little think about that. Compare and contrast the leave argument in the tabloids with the remain in the newspapers. Look at the discourse around immigration and refugees. Look at the 'enemies of the state' headline. And then tell me who, if anyone, reminds you more of the national socialists."

Quite.

Seen anything like this anywhere lately?

The Brexit Arms goes forth!  All welcome. Leavers, Remainers, Couldn't give a Tossers, & openly gay athletes.
InformalRoman · 08/11/2016 17:13

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace

I wonder if WW goes on marches with an umbrella? Wink

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