The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Who is trying to outmanoeuvre who?

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Don't worry we've all lost track.

In the Blue Corner
It started out with Cameron and Osborne trying to win the battle of the Tories, but they got stung in a UK wide vote. Some of us thought it was about the 'EU'. Instead it has turned out it was an internal Tory Bitch fight between some old Oxford and Eton mates, whilst for others a protest vote at being disenfranchised.
Gove and Johnson stabbed Cameron & Osborne in the back to run for Team Leave. Then they won when they didn't expect to. And there was no Plan. Uh Oh. Then it all started to go really wrong.
Cameron quit in disgust. Johnson went all President Churchill, before he also got stabbed by Gove (possibly with the assistance of the dark influence of Osborne).
We now have a Tory Smackdown with the shadowy influence of the Media Barons in the background.

#Team Gove has been doing their best with the knives. This is a mission to stab as many Tory MPs in the back as possible in order to become PM. Sponsored and supported by Murdoch

#Team Leadsom has been selling more unicorns and trying to pretend her CV and tax return are completely transparent. Think positive and the economy will be just fine. She is the homeopathy of politics. Sponsored and supported by Arron Banks, Leave.eu, UKIP and Britain First.

#Team May has been threatening to deport everyone if the EU don't play nice. Sponsored and supported by The Daily Mail's Dacre

In The Purple Corner
Tragically, it appears that not only do UKIP have a Plan A, they also have outwitted everyone by having Plan B. Yes that’s right TWO plans.
Farage has swanned off –sacked—for a life on CBB so they are looking for a new leader.
The potential candidates are all equally loathsome. They include Arron Banks himself, a suspended member of the party and several other people with an uncanny ability to put their foot in their mouths.
If this wasn't horrible enough, Team Leadsom is increasingly starting to look like a UKIP take over bid of the Conservative Party, which might be a neat way of avoiding a leadership battle of their own considering the quality of the candidates on offer.

In short, its a bit like a Bad Dystopian Movie that invokes Godwin, set in 2016 Westminster. Except its real.
In the Red Corner
Meanwhile the WMD has finally gone off in the Labour Camp, as Chilcot has been published. However the Chicken Coup rattles on regardless.

Corbyn is STILL clinging on, putting in a good claim for the Westminster 'Charlie off Casualty' Award. He has however had his Big Moment in the Commons. Which was a bit of a let down really. ...

The Unions have been trying to talk some sense into everyone. Meanwhile everyone else is has given up and are now just praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party.

Angela Eagle is still outside for the 5th day in a row, going "I will stand. Soon. If he doesn't quit" The BBC now qualify for a discount deal at the local Travel Lodge.

We FINALLY know who the fuck Owen Smith is! He's a Welsh MP and sounds like he's not completely away with the political fairies.

George Galloway appears to be trying to make a late bid to be included on the ballot paper for any leadership election.
Bliar's cried. We didn't. Chilcot took over 2 million words to tell us everything we already knew. As well as the fact that Mi6 like Nicholas Cage a lot.

The Cult of Momentum are still worshiping their Dear Leader by sending death threats to PR companies they suspect of disloyalty. Somehow they still manage not to get the title of the most vile pressure group in the UK.

And I suppose I should ask, when will a50 be triggered....? And by whom?

All these questions and more.
Tin foil hats now available upon request

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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Ah, merry, you can if you're super-Andrea, you just get the unicorn (or nanny) to do it and claim the credit.

pretty that sounds more like something I could go for! I do miss the sea but my old home town is far too expensive to go back to, plus my kids are in school here, and my divorce agreement limits me from moving them too far away from their father.

Personally, I think they should be checking that roast more carefully. I think she's cooking those unicorns.

And the 2 million in London Merrymouse?

It seems Murdoch & Dacre stirred up this wave of bigotry intending to install Thatcher II and never noticed Banks pushing their annointed off the wave for Loathsome to surf towards victory.

How effective will the M & D fightback via press & TV be ?
They seem to be the "old" style hate stirrers, outclassed by the professional new wave.
Note to self: we have sunk from rooting for Thatcher II to the murkiest depths of hoping for rescue by Murdoch & the Fail

LeaveUk very effectively used USA far right tactics and social media to scare & anger voters - e.g. Trump's "immigrants are dangerous snakes" video.
They also had Leave Bots online - including at least one very prolific Brexit poster I suspect on Mumsnet.

Londoners have the choice of being a separate country like Belgium or joining the rest of us.

I think we should start a twitter campaign along the lines of "Don't need another mum, need a PM" kind of thing.

#needPMnotanothermother

lol . After awhile, there will be "mother...." jokes. subliminal. Play them at their own game.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/nicky-morgan-amanda-spielman-ofsted-education-start-listening-to-experts-a7127611.html

TheBathroomSink - Helensburgh would give you palm trees, the sea, good schools and only 35 minutes from Glasgow Airport!

Glasgow would give you good schools (like anywhere, if you're careful about where you live), only 15 minutes from airport and depending on whether you live North side or South side, easy access to the Ayrshire Coast (lovely beaches) or the hills. But either are only about 10 minutes further away - Glasgow's a long narrow city.

Can't decide whether AL or TM would be better for Scottish independence. Suspect AL would help ensure a Yes vote - but not sure I'm mean enough to want to inflict that on England. After all, we want a healthy neighbour!

But it might do wonders for reversing the brain drain

And now AL has publicly backtracked....

Sky News ‏@SkyNews 2m2 minutes ago
"Everyone has an equal stake in the future of our country" says Andrea #Leadsom over motherhood comments

Leadsom: "Everyone Has An Equal Stake"
"Everyone has an equal stake in the future of our country" says Andrea #Leadsom over motherhood comments #ToryLeadership

Looking back to 1960s politics (old gimmer, vaguely remember all this), the Crossman diaries relates how Labour for the first time realised how what a lethal weapon immigration could be for Tories if they were prepared to sink that low:

Harold Wilson won the 1964 election, but the Tories won a seat in Smethwick, bucking the trend with a big swing to them.
They used the unofficial slogan:
"if you want a n@@@er for a neighbour, vote Labour"

The victorious candidate Peter Griffiths used the same nudge wink denial as now, quoted as saying
"I should think that is a manifestation of popular feeling. I would not condemn anyone who said that."

Following his victory, a British branch of the Ku Klux Klan was formed, and BME residents there had burning crosses shoved through their letterboxes.
The Tory council applied racial segregation and white preferrment to housing.
Patrick Gordon Walker lost a byelection next year in a safe Labour seat, due to the immigration card.

However, politicians in the 1960s - including Tory leadership - had both the sense and the courage to take on and defeat those who deliberately stirred up racial hatred, instead of appeasing them:

Harald Wilson famously declared Griffiths a "Parliamentary Leper" and brought in the first anti-discrimination laws;
Ted Heath sacked Enoch Powell after his "Rivers of Blood" speech in 1968.

Their bold actions killed off weaponised race hatred as a political tool for nearly 50 years, until UKIP and LeaveUk dusted off the WMDs.

They also had Leave Bots online - including at least one very prolific Brexit poster I suspect on Mumsnet

Whoever could you mean?!

They don't like me

I note that AL is not apologising for saying that - she is blaming the news media. Transcript backs up the media, however. Not impressed with AL at all.

Enjoying the threads very much thank you all.

I couldn't see Times article linked, sorry if I missed it, here just in case as it's worth reading the Leadsom views/platitudes on how easy it will be to secure tariff free trade etc etc "why wouldn't they (give that to us?) ...

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-m-sure-theresa-will-be-really-sad-that-she-doesn-t-have-children-t77dswngp?shareToken=7ce2bcdeb335bb5af8b6fef36b8f2151

prettybird Helensburgh sounds nice. I'm not really a big city girl.

I think TM's reaction of not reacting has been good. I also note from this BBC article that AM hasn't agreed to TM's clean campaign request, part of which is that they "should also agree not to work with other political parties or their donors."

Fuckall chance of Loathsome agreeing to that then, isn't there?

Fortunately for AL, and unfortunately for us, you are not the one she's trying to impress Ginger.

We all need to try to start thinking like Leadsom bots, so that we can understand what they like and don't like.

Can we start a rumour that she's secretly in love with Corbyn or something? Fake a tape of her talking about the socialist values she's been secretly hiding and plans to use when she gets in, but she can't talk about or she would never be able to take over the party.

The next series of the apprentice starts in the autumn. I think there is a potential for a lot of confusion.

Red well, perhaps that's true that she's not trying to impress me. (how do you know I'm not a secret Conservative party member? )

indy100.independent.co.uk/article/andrea-leadsom-may-be-prime-minister-and-now-people-are-tweeting-leadsomfacts--b1l0QIOhuBW

Some quite funny things on here mocking AL's "mum" quotes.

I am quite pleased to note that the Sky journalist Beth Rigby has chased teamLoathsome about the tax return:
Beth Rigby ‏@BethRigby 16h 16 hours ago
Update on @andrealeadsom tax returns. Her team tells me she will publish returns "in the very near future" as promised.

Of course, it was promised several times and failed to appear, so I won't be holding my breath.

Actually Ginger I had you down more as a secret Kipper.

I suspect she has lost her HMRC log in and password. It can take a couple of weeks for them to issue a new one.

Got the rage at R5L's news report talking about "claims" that AL had made comments about TM not being a mother.

They weren't claims - she said it

Seriously? UKIP?? Good god! They'd flay me alive!

Actually, I'm pretty solidly in the Labour camp, which is why this whole "Labour falling apart" thing is making me so cross.

And I'm waiting... this is surely going to be followed up by another claim by AE that she is going to stand up "soon."

www.itv.com/news/2016-07-09/watson-calls-off-crisis-talks-with-unions-over-corbyn/