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The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Who is trying to outmanoeuvre who?

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RedToothBrush · 07/07/2016 16:21

Don't worry we've all lost track.

In the Blue Corner
It started out with Cameron and Osborne trying to win the battle of the Tories, but they got stung in a UK wide vote. Some of us thought it was about the 'EU'. Instead it has turned out it was an internal Tory Bitch fight between some old Oxford and Eton mates, whilst for others a protest vote at being disenfranchised.
Gove and Johnson stabbed Cameron & Osborne in the back to run for Team Leave. Then they won when they didn't expect to. And there was no Plan. Uh Oh. Then it all started to go really wrong.
Cameron quit in disgust. Johnson went all President Churchill, before he also got stabbed by Gove (possibly with the assistance of the dark influence of Osborne).
We now have a Tory Smackdown with the shadowy influence of the Media Barons in the background.

#Team Gove has been doing their best with the knives. This is a mission to stab as many Tory MPs in the back as possible in order to become PM. Sponsored and supported by Murdoch

#Team Leadsom has been selling more unicorns and trying to pretend her CV and tax return are completely transparent. Think positive and the economy will be just fine. She is the homeopathy of politics. Sponsored and supported by Arron Banks, Leave.eu, UKIP and Britain First.

#Team May has been threatening to deport everyone if the EU don't play nice. Sponsored and supported by The Daily Mail's Dacre

In The Purple Corner
Tragically, it appears that not only do UKIP have a Plan A, they also have outwitted everyone by having Plan B. Yes that’s right TWO plans.
Farage has swanned off –sacked—for a life on CBB so they are looking for a new leader.
The potential candidates are all equally loathsome. They include Arron Banks himself, a suspended member of the party and several other people with an uncanny ability to put their foot in their mouths.
If this wasn't horrible enough, Team Leadsom is increasingly starting to look like a UKIP take over bid of the Conservative Party, which might be a neat way of avoiding a leadership battle of their own considering the quality of the candidates on offer.

In short, its a bit like a Bad Dystopian Movie that invokes Godwin, set in 2016 Westminster. Except its real.
In the Red Corner
Meanwhile the WMD has finally gone off in the Labour Camp, as Chilcot has been published. However the Chicken Coup rattles on regardless.

Corbyn is STILL clinging on, putting in a good claim for the Westminster 'Charlie off Casualty' Award. He has however had his Big Moment in the Commons. Which was a bit of a let down really. ...

The Unions have been trying to talk some sense into everyone. Meanwhile everyone else is has given up and are now just praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party.

Angela Eagle is still outside for the 5th day in a row, going "I will stand. Soon. If he doesn't quit" The BBC now qualify for a discount deal at the local Travel Lodge.

We FINALLY know who the fuck Owen Smith is! He's a Welsh MP and sounds like he's not completely away with the political fairies.

George Galloway appears to be trying to make a late bid to be included on the ballot paper for any leadership election.
Bliar's cried. We didn't. Chilcot took over 2 million words to tell us everything we already knew. As well as the fact that Mi6 like Nicholas Cage a lot.

The Cult of Momentum are still worshiping their Dear Leader by sending death threats to PR companies they suspect of disloyalty. Somehow they still manage not to get the title of the most vile pressure group in the UK.

And I suppose I should ask, when will a50 be triggered....? And by whom?


All these questions and more.
Tin foil hats now available upon request

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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TheBathroomSink · 10/07/2016 17:18

It was Kate Green who contradicted JMcD here

twitter.com/KateGreenSU/status/752110122978148352

In reply to John McDonnell MP
Kate Green ‏@KateGreenSU 4h4 hours ago
@johnmcdonnellMP @OwenSmith_MP I was in that meeting John. I heard you say it. Are you now backtracking?

John McDonnell MP ‏@johnmcdonnellMP 1h1 hour ago
@KateGreenSU That's not what I recall. But to be clear: I don't want our party to split, which is why I want all of us to work together

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 17:19

Ms Leadsom’s tax return, calculated by Isis Accountants

Priceless. For everything else there's all the stuff you can't see on that return.

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Muddlingalongalone · 10/07/2016 17:23

Isis accountants Blush snigger snigger
Instant reaction to the tax return - how much do you need in savings to earn £5k interest & what was in the previous 3 years??

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GingerIvy · 10/07/2016 17:23

AL's tax return for one year. I hope they don't let up the pressure for her to match TM's four years. I suspect there's some hidden stuff in there. She was not keen on providing it, was she?

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GingerIvy · 10/07/2016 17:24

how much do you need in savings to earn £5k interest

I wondered that myself.

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BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2016 17:25

Torygraph insight into Tory Right "taking their Party back"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/07/07/andrea-leadsom-gives-tories-a-chance-to-take-their-party-back/

"Leadsom represents a Right that believes Brexit isn’t just about leaving the EU but is also about remaking UK politics and even society in their image.
They are the Momentum of the Conservative Party.
.... the Tory Taliban are looking to occupy not just a leader’s office but Number 10 itself.

For too long both major parties have been dominated by liberals Hmm who broadly agree on economic, social and foreign policy.

They tried winning the country over while in opposition – recall Hague and Duncan Smith’s disastrous leaderships – but to do so while in power gives them an opportunity, to frankly, bypass the electorate and trial their agenda in office."

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ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 10/07/2016 17:25

A year?

Better than nothing I suppose, but not very forthcoming.
Hmm

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ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 10/07/2016 17:26

Quite a lot of savings with today's rates, I'll say.

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GingerIvy · 10/07/2016 17:28

Torygraph insight into Tory Right "taking their Party back"

I don't like that. Concern that some might actually think this is a good thing without actually looking at some of the nonsense coming out of AL's mouth.

She's like a Stepford.... only too highly medicated. Hmm

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 17:30

Savings = roughly half a million

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TheBathroomSink · 10/07/2016 17:33

Tim Stanley wrote that DT piece, then wrote another one the next day saying she's too naive to win, she makes 'unguarded comments' but hey, we wanted some 'real' politicians then we moan when we get them.

He can be amusing sometimes but mostly he contradicts himself on a regular basis just to make sure he's on the popular (with his audience) side of an issue on any given day.

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TheBathroomSink · 10/07/2016 17:34

Savings = fucking loads

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 17:40

That dividend is low for someone with that much in savings (Would work out roughly £75,000 in shares)

Except that she has a property firm
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/new-tory-treasury-minister-andrea-3425988

Chances are the dividend is low as the company increased its assets instead, and paid out less in dividend.

Its not the full story...

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TheBathroomSink · 10/07/2016 17:40

Um wft? www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/10/brexit-vote-paves-way-for-federal-union-says-all-party-group

"The governance of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should be reinvented within a new voluntary union in a bid to save the UK from disintegration, an independent all-party group of experts will argue this week."

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TheBathroomSink · 10/07/2016 17:41

I think she signed over her share in the (offshore mortgage-using) company to her son when she was elected. Will try to find where I read that.

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 17:41

Oh and with it being last year, that doesn't have to be her final submission for the year as its not past its deadline.

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TheBathroomSink · 10/07/2016 17:44

Ah, no, she stepped down upon becoming a minister, not an MP:

"The company invested £1 million into three houses in Oxford with mortgages from the Jersey branch of Kleinwort Benson, a private bank specialising in wealthy clients.
Ms Leadsom later used an account at Kleinwort Benson (Channel Islands) Ltd, based in Jersey, to deal with charges before transferring shares to her two children to be held in trust.
She later transferred the offshore charges to the UK before becoming a Treasury minister and subsequently stepping down as the director of her buy-to-let business, handing it over to her son instead." (from the Indy price linked upthread).

I suspect the earlier tax returns will show much more detail about this firm, hence the reluctance to publish?

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 17:47

SOMETHING is not adding up and its not full transparency, yes.

What that SOMETHING is, is the ££££ question.

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LineyReborn · 10/07/2016 17:50

'As a mum, I use my children as tax avoidance vehicles.'

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GingerIvy · 10/07/2016 17:51

'As a mum, I use my children as tax avoidance vehicles.'

Grin

Mind if I use that?

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DetestableHerytike · 10/07/2016 17:51

Liney. Love that.

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GingerIvy · 10/07/2016 17:53

I think we should share that lovely one liner from Liney with the twitter world. Grin

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DetestableHerytike · 10/07/2016 17:54

Red, can you work it into the next thread title? Nearly at 1000 posts

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LineyReborn · 10/07/2016 17:54

Please do. I'm not I twitter myself so I rely on you all. Smile

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 17:55

Grin Liney

Tax Credits on Dividends ?????!
Really? How?

I look forward to the proper expert analysis on that return.
Oh yeah, we don't do experts anymore do we?

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