The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Who is trying to outmanoeuvre who?

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Don't worry we've all lost track.

In the Blue Corner
It started out with Cameron and Osborne trying to win the battle of the Tories, but they got stung in a UK wide vote. Some of us thought it was about the 'EU'. Instead it has turned out it was an internal Tory Bitch fight between some old Oxford and Eton mates, whilst for others a protest vote at being disenfranchised.
Gove and Johnson stabbed Cameron & Osborne in the back to run for Team Leave. Then they won when they didn't expect to. And there was no Plan. Uh Oh. Then it all started to go really wrong.
Cameron quit in disgust. Johnson went all President Churchill, before he also got stabbed by Gove (possibly with the assistance of the dark influence of Osborne).
We now have a Tory Smackdown with the shadowy influence of the Media Barons in the background.

#Team Gove has been doing their best with the knives. This is a mission to stab as many Tory MPs in the back as possible in order to become PM. Sponsored and supported by Murdoch

#Team Leadsom has been selling more unicorns and trying to pretend her CV and tax return are completely transparent. Think positive and the economy will be just fine. She is the homeopathy of politics. Sponsored and supported by Arron Banks, Leave.eu, UKIP and Britain First.

#Team May has been threatening to deport everyone if the EU don't play nice. Sponsored and supported by The Daily Mail's Dacre

In The Purple Corner
Tragically, it appears that not only do UKIP have a Plan A, they also have outwitted everyone by having Plan B. Yes that’s right TWO plans.
Farage has swanned off –sacked—for a life on CBB so they are looking for a new leader.
The potential candidates are all equally loathsome. They include Arron Banks himself, a suspended member of the party and several other people with an uncanny ability to put their foot in their mouths.
If this wasn't horrible enough, Team Leadsom is increasingly starting to look like a UKIP take over bid of the Conservative Party, which might be a neat way of avoiding a leadership battle of their own considering the quality of the candidates on offer.

In short, its a bit like a Bad Dystopian Movie that invokes Godwin, set in 2016 Westminster. Except its real.
In the Red Corner
Meanwhile the WMD has finally gone off in the Labour Camp, as Chilcot has been published. However the Chicken Coup rattles on regardless.

Corbyn is STILL clinging on, putting in a good claim for the Westminster 'Charlie off Casualty' Award. He has however had his Big Moment in the Commons. Which was a bit of a let down really. ...

The Unions have been trying to talk some sense into everyone. Meanwhile everyone else is has given up and are now just praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party.

Angela Eagle is still outside for the 5th day in a row, going "I will stand. Soon. If he doesn't quit" The BBC now qualify for a discount deal at the local Travel Lodge.

We FINALLY know who the fuck Owen Smith is! He's a Welsh MP and sounds like he's not completely away with the political fairies.

George Galloway appears to be trying to make a late bid to be included on the ballot paper for any leadership election.
Bliar's cried. We didn't. Chilcot took over 2 million words to tell us everything we already knew. As well as the fact that Mi6 like Nicholas Cage a lot.

The Cult of Momentum are still worshiping their Dear Leader by sending death threats to PR companies they suspect of disloyalty. Somehow they still manage not to get the title of the most vile pressure group in the UK.

And I suppose I should ask, when will a50 be triggered....? And by whom?

All these questions and more.
Tin foil hats now available upon request

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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Re Mums know best, hope someone asks her what she feels about child labour and how WTO doesn't give a toss about that.

Breaking news on the BBC : Labour's Tom Watson says "no realistic prospect of reaching compromise" with unions on leader Jeremy Corbyn's future

Undoubtedly Angela will threaten to stand against him again, sometime in the next couple of hours.

oooh, snap Ginger

Sorry Ginger. I was only joking. I think its been fairly clear where you stand.

I don't think you have to be Labour to be cross about Labour falling apart.

I'm fairly sure that right now there are plenty of Greens, Lib Dem, Plaids, SNPs and even moderate Conservatives holding their heads in their hands over 'Enough! Please end this insanity'.

Leadsom's Tax - "in the very near future" - is this before or after she's recruited the Brown Shirts?
Whilst we at it, can we point out the offshore nature of Mr Banks and Mr Wigmore. Or is that not relevant.
I think the plan is to recruit enough to the cause in the knowledge that the convenience blinkers will come down and then she can say, there you go and show her heavily massaged return, and it won't be important anymore but she can still say she did it. Expect it on a busy news day, if it surfaces.

What do we think Angela will be wearing outside her house today? I wonder if she's got any green tops? I think that could work for her. I haven't seen her in green yet. What she is wearing is the only way I can tell that the photo/footage is of a different day.

Yes, definitely it will come out on a busy news day, to bury it a bit.

And yes, I probably come across as a bit of a ranty Labour person, but Labour nonetheless.

In fact they are brown shirts are they. They are blue t-shirts. I wonder how many she's got printed up.

I would just desperately like to have some effective opposition and actually while going round the country and talking to people is nice, it isn't working. Corbyn needs to be on the to holding the kippers and uprise to account because if feels like there is s coup going on and everybody is watching Corbyn not do anything rather than objecting to the coup!

Apologies if it has already been posted…Conservativehome 100% pro-May but the below-the-liners loving Andrea.
www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2016/07/the-timess-transcript-of-what-leadsom-said-in-her-interview-with-rachel-sylvester.html

Will Theresa M resign if AL gets it?

feels like there is s coup going on and everybody is watching Corbyn not do anything rather than objecting to the coup!

I think that is the problem with electing to leadership someone who is essentially a permanent rebel. Corbyn is behaving in an entirely predictable manner, the problem really is with those who thought that he would become mainstream and step up to the leadership role.

I have no problem with the leader of the Labour party being a rebel or an agitator, or whatever you want to call him, but I do have a problem with our official Opposition leader being more concerned with holding rallies of his supporters and playing stupid political in-games than doing his actual job, because he isn't just the Labour leader.

The clean campaign is a good idea. As long as May does not criticise Loathsom at all herself it works, though it could backfire if any of her MP supporters get too carried away. Loathsom can't sign it, especially after that Times article.

Agree bathroomsink. There are so many arguments for labour to make currently about the future of our country and they are making none of them, none! I feel so utterly let down by every senior figure in the country and am staggered that the people of the country are being let down so badly to the point where I also want to leave (and do have the means to do so)

If AL gets it there'll be a reshuffle, so May won't need to resign. I don't think AL would have her in Cabinet, I think she'll shore herself up with people like Loughton and his ilk. She'll probably make Johnson either Chancellor or Foreign Secretary, which is frankly terrifying. Gove might get a role in an attempt to neutralise him, or she might think that he's cut his own throat with the Nick Boles antics.

I can't see May standing down as MP, I think she will stay on attempt to provide some sort of balance from the back benches, probably with Cameron and Osbourne (and isn't that just indication of how low we will have sunk at that point?)

Red I expect a press release shortly saying that she's signed it and why can't we all just take her word for it, asking her to prove it is just bullying and nasty and oh-look-a-unicorn-with-a-roast-dinner

On a serious Labour note, does the failure of the unions to sort out the Labour mess not raise questions about their future effectiveness? How are people supposed to trust that the unions they fund can achieve anything at all if they can't even bang some MPs heads together?

Which one of you is Marina Hyde? Quoting the Bank of Unicorns for All in her Guardian article today.

I have no problem with the leader of the Labour party being a rebel or an agitator, or whatever you want to call him, but I do have a problem with our official Opposition leader being more concerned with holding rallies of his supporters and playing stupid political in-games than doing his actual job, because he isn't just the Labour leader.

Even leaders have to compromise sometimes. Ask Obama.

officer, I think Marina Hyde isn't the only journo ripping off this thread! There is a swarm of them going 'what bloody angle can we do next? fuck. can't think of anything. I know MN will have the answer.'

Hello Journos! waves

My Twitter feed appears to be an echo chamber for the righteous but unsuccessful

Same although I do follow Cameron and Trump as well

I follow them for info, but not because I necessarily like them. lol

Have you already done the Nick Griffin 'endorsement' #bloodydangerouswoman

I've been reading too much about leadsoms unicorns because I read bathroomsinks post as failure of the unicorns to sort out the Labour mess!

Tim Stanley (DT) on Loathsome:
"So Leadsom is naïve. Naïve to the point of disability. Naïve, in the minds of many voters, to the point of being unfit for high office. What if she said in the middle of Brexit negotiations: “Look, what I’m not saying is that Germans are vicious thugs who tried to conquer Europe twice, but…” Said negotiations would not go well."

Yesterday he was quite supportive of her:

"For too long both major parties have been dominated by liberals who broadly agree on economic, social and foreign policy.

Why not take a gamble? Why not offer the people a Prime Minister who wants to do things differently – a PM who thinks like the 52 per cent rather than the one per cent who largely work in the City?

Expect Leadsom to run on populist themes. Expect her to claim to be the heir to Thatcher. Expect this to go down very well with a Tory Party whose membership has halved as a consequence of Cameron’s experiment in metropolitan liberalism."

I'm telling you, she is roasting those unicorns. And I'll bet they're not free range either.