Deaths Due To PfizerVaccine?

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I've read a few posts on MN now that Pfizer has been rolled out to millions that the number of deaths caused by receiving the vaccine is not far off the AZ vaccine.

The press horrible about AZ and has really tainted its benefits whereas there is very little negative press about Pfizer.

Does anyone have any comparison (easy to read) data on deaths caused by the various vaccines and does anyone know why there is so little info on deaths caused by Pfizer (PR / lawyers working overtime on adverse media?!)

I know this is going to sound extreme, but I really think people who produce and spread fake new like this should be prosecuted in some way. It is so dangerous and will cost lives if people pay attention to it. Sadly some do.

Definitely. There was already one poster on this thread who considered cancelling her second vaccine dose which is the consequence of this sort of info filtering down.

@WineGetsMeThroughIt

Did anyone receive one of these when getting their vaccine?? First time I've ever seen this. Someone shared it on IG

I would put money on that being fake news.

It has the same grammatical mistake in several places - the word "to" is missing. FWIW, incorrect or missing prepositions is often the hallmark of something being written by a non-native speaker as they vary so much between languages.

Plus the ridiculous hyperbole that titchy pointed out.

[quote InSearchofTruth]The figures on this leaflet seem to be in line with the official reported numbers. Conveniently laid out by the ukcolumn, as they are quite hard to find on the govmt website:

yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports[/quote]
Ah haven't seen links from the uk column in a while.

Nice to see they're hosting a seminar series on COVID fronted by Mike Yeadon

As PP have said, yellow card reports are things that have happened after someone was vaccinated. They are not events that have been established to be caused by the vaccine.

It is a sad fact of life that there is a ongoing death rate in the population. All of these deaths will occur after something, and when you're vaccinating millions, some will occur after vaccination. If no-one died after they'd had the vaccine, this would indicate it was somehow protective against death, which is clearly implausible.

From the MHRA: “It is very important to note that a Yellow Card report does not necessarily mean the vaccine caused that reaction or event”.

[quote InSearchofTruth]@ollyollyoxenfree

What is your opinion the VAERS data?

Can you post a link to the Seminar hosted by Mike Yeadon? I can see the 'Doctors for Covid Ethics Symposium' on the site but not the seminar hosted by Yeadon. Would be interested to watch it as well as the aforementioned series.

What are your reservations about Yeadon? Genuine interest to know. Thank you.[/quote]
The VAERS data is exactly the same concept @InSearchofTruth - it useful to gather data which can be used for further investigation. You need to compare rates of a certain event against the rates of this event happening in an unvaccinated population of similar demographics (e.g., miscarriage, which happens in ~1/3 pregnancies), which is what the analysts do with the data.

Mike Yeadon is a crank pseudoscientist who is making wilder and wilder claims, including everyone who has been vaccinated will be dead in 2 years, and that the vaccines were deliberately developed to cause "mass depopulation" rather than prevent coronavirus. The others mentioned on that panel are the same.

He is listed on several "episodes" of their bullshit seminar series, alongside others who are known to be the same.

This is a great summary of some of the anti-vaccine tactics they have been trying in the UK (leaked from someone who was able to get into their HART group chat as they made it publicly accessible). It includes screen shots from which are quite simply staggering.

twitter.com/karamballes/status/1427570311881449488

absolutely intrigued as to what that reply was!

@ollyollyoxenfree it took me ages to construct that message! Hopefully will be visible shortly after being checked.

[quote InSearchofTruth]@ollyollyoxenfree

What is your opinion the VAERS data?

Can you post a link to the Seminar hosted by Mike Yeadon? I can see the 'Doctors for Covid Ethics Symposium' on the site but not the seminar hosted by Yeadon. Would be interested to watch it as well as the aforementioned series.

What are your reservations about Yeadon? Genuine interest to know. Thank you.[/quote]
Dr Michael Yeadon:

www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-health-coronavirus-idUSL2N2N72CS

www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-vaccines-skeptic/

www.snopes.com/fact-check/michael-yeadon-vaccine-death/

www.thejournal.ie/debunked-mike-yeadon-pfizer-covid-19-vaccines-5447489-May2021/

There's loads more if you want them.

Anyone who uses information from Dr Mike Yeadon is too deep down the rabbit hole to have a proper debate with.

[quote InSearchofTruth]@ollyollyoxenfree it took me ages to construct that message! Hopefully will be visible shortly after being checked.[/quote]
I doubt it.

Oh why?

@InSearchofTruth

Oh why?

Oh I don't know - your other posts, your support of an obviously fake leaflet, your interest in that bonkers conspiracy theorist and your user name. Mumsnet will delete conspiracy theory and anti vax posts.

Oh I don't know - your other posts, your support of an obviously fake leaflet, your interest in that bonkers conspiracy theorist and your user name. Mumsnet will delete conspiracy theory and anti vax posts.

Amen.