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To think they should pause meeting inside

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LastOrdersMaura · 15/05/2021 10:41

In the last person to be overly concerned about the virus but the SAGE minutes show that there is something to be concerned about.
I think the economy can't take anymore and I really feel for all the businesses who are gearing up for opening on Monday. My friends cafe hasn't opened since October last year so she missed all the Christmas trade and has no outside seating. Her customer base are mostly elderly so unlikely to come out for takeaway. It would likely bankrupt her to hold off opening any longer.

The mixing in people's houses seems the least destructive part to hold off on. I know a lot of people have been looking forward to it but prolonged contact in a small space seems to be a major factor in transmission.
I'm looking forward to seeing others for a drink in their houses but I can see how it can go wrong. Most people aren't able to go for a meal in a restaurant every night of the week. I could however go to a different friends house every day, even multiple friends houses! Then if that friend does the same, that's a lot of indoor mixing. We have small children so the likelihood of them SD'ing is unlikely. Then there's older siblings at school, working parents, nursery etc leading to an increase in transmission. I feel restaurants are quite safe in comparison.
Those who want to will mix indoors anyway but it might make some think twice or not accept as many invitations. It has no impact on the economy. Yes it will have an impact on mental health but I think we're screwed on that part anyway. Anxiety is through the roof!
I'm fully expecting people to tell me to fuck off but this is the most sensible decision that BJ could make in light of the new variant. I'm not a lockdown lover, frankly as I haven't had a lockdown due to working out of the house throughout. I just want this to be over, properly over, not just kicking the can down the road.

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picturesandpickles · 20/05/2021 17:59

@Blossomtoes

New data will mean they revise the model, and people who follow the data will revise their views in line with that

You mean the data I’ve been providing ad nauseum for days and you’ve been rubbishing? That data?

You have been providing data looking backwards - the discussion was about projections looking forwards.

I have not at any point rubbished anything about current case levels - but that wasn't what the thread was about. It was about the Indian variant and whether cases are going to rise.

You seem only able to talk about yesterday.

Delatron · 20/05/2021 18:15

SAGE in pessimistic model shocker. It sure why anyone listens to them anymore.

Delatron · 20/05/2021 18:16

I’m not sure why

Blossomtoes · 20/05/2021 18:21

Nor me @Delatron. I notice the references to “following the science” went by the wayside some time ago.

And I don’t talk about yesterday @picturesandpickles, I talk about today and trends - you know, that pesky evidence you hate so much.

picturesandpickles · 20/05/2021 18:37

@Blossomtoes

Nor me *@Delatron*. I notice the references to “following the science” went by the wayside some time ago.

And I don’t talk about yesterday @picturesandpickles, I talk about today and trends - you know, that pesky evidence you hate so much.

Then you will have seen tonight's data showing cases of the variant have doubled in five days, faster than the doubling rate of the Kent variant despite vaccinations.

The data is going to be up and down for the next couple of weeks and we will know in due course.

The fact of the matter is you know no more than I do, for all your commonsense.

Delatron · 20/05/2021 18:38

Ha yes @Blossomtoes ‘the science not dates’ only then they stick rigidly to some arbitrary dates..

Great that transmissibility looks lower than predicted. What will the next scaremongering tactic be from certain posters I wonder.

Quoting the SAGE meeting notes won’t go down so well now.

picturesandpickles · 20/05/2021 18:54

I think this tweet fairly accurately summarises where we seem to be, if this thread is anything to go by:
twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/1395130714904006662

Sadsiblingatsea · 20/05/2021 18:57

Honestly, OP. You sound unnecessarily controlling.

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