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Is anyone becoming suspicious?

281 replies

Emcont · 30/04/2020 15:32

I am not. I am referring to increased posts on a Covid-19 Facebook group and peoples comments on posts, news links and news websites

I'm unsure if people are just getting twitchy or they genuinely believe this isn't a real thing??

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Sadie789 · 30/04/2020 19:59

Fact for how all digital publishing works across the board. It’s a small industry. People move round it often. It’s a fact.

But hey, I could say I’m a nurse in a COVID ICU ward and you’d all believe me, no questions asked, and take everything I say as gospel...

Which kind of proves my point.

Sadie789 · 30/04/2020 20:02

@BackseatCookers I never claimed to be close to the cover up. If you took time to read my post you’d know that.

The people giving you “the news” know little more than anyone else. They are just taking what someone else has written and repackaging it for their own publication.

BackseatCookers · 30/04/2020 20:07

But hey, I could say I’m a nurse in a COVID ICU ward and you’d all believe me, no questions asked, and take everything I say as gospel...

That's not true though, obviously. Most people engage their critical thinking faculties enough to know that if someone says something on an anonymous forum it doesn't mean it's true.

But being deliberately vague on an anonymous forum just reeks of attention seeking and 'If I told you I'd have to kill you' vibes that it undermines your credibility.

I'm a PR, I'm perfectly aware the press take things and spin them for the benefit of their benefactors / funding sources.

But this virus is not fake. Real people are dying. People who might not be famous / 'newsworthy' individually but are much loved and valued people.

I did take the time to read your post. Your positioned yourself as someone who knows them truth' and sees through media bullshit because you know people in the press. Loads of us do. Absolutely loads.

People can spin the numbers / use the fear of coronavirus to try to control people but it doesn't mean that real, everyday people aren't suffering from it and dying of it. People many of us know and love within our own familial / social circles.

Justanotherlurker · 30/04/2020 20:08

What I don’t understand is if 5G makes you sick or is being blamed for all this, then why was everyone cool with 4G?

They weren't it's been bubbling along for years alongside that Wifi gives you cancer etc.

It only really gained traction when Corona took off in China, in the news prior there was all the talk about huawei rolling out our 5g network, some people took the little snippit of information of why huawei being involved could be an issue (from the CCP perspective) and rolled it all up into a nice juicy conspiracy theory.

Even the likes of Piers Corbyn was pushing it back in January..

RideaCockHorseOfCourse · 30/04/2020 20:08

Here is Jeremy Corbyn's nutter brother, taking part in a protest in Somerset, saying there is no pandemic:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8257133/Jeremy-Corbyns-brother-Piers-73-leads-protest-against-coronavirus-lockdown.html

BillywilliamV · 30/04/2020 20:11

Yeah, maybe talk to my dear friend after a 12 hour shift in a ward where they're losing three quarters of their Covid diagnosed patients?

This is all weird enough, will never understand why people need it weirder!

Sadie789 · 30/04/2020 20:18

@BackseatCookers except you clearly didn’t read my posts as I have clearly said I don’t think it’s fake.

Sadie789 · 30/04/2020 20:21

@Justanotherlurker ah. Makes sense now.

Mordred · 30/04/2020 20:24

"Even the likes of Piers Corbyn was pushing it back in January"

To be perfectly honest, Piers Corbyn is an arsehole. I was banned from Twitter for calling him a frothing maniac.

LastTrainEast · 30/04/2020 20:24

"Am perplexed why everyone accepts China’s explanation about the bats at the wet market" because if you studied how viruses work that's a perfectly valid source for one. It's not even the first time we've had this animal to human infection.

How about "Am perplexed why everyone accepts the explanation that milk comes from cows"

Rubyscute · 30/04/2020 20:24

Sadie789

It's not attacking the elderly and leaving children alone. Viruses need a host in order to reproduce. They usually want that host to survive so it can transmit from them to other potential hosts..otherwise it will die very quickly and can't proliferate. The virus most likely doesn't want to kill their host. Elderly people and immunocompromised people are not an ideal host. They die quickly because they are vulnerable. While young children are often vulnerable because their immune systems aren't fully developed, they can also be less vulnerable because they are healthier. Their organs etc haven't had much wear and tear. As such they are a much more desirable host for many pathogens than elderly people. In the case of covid19, children seem to act more as vectors in that they convey the virus around - it can reproduce in them, and then be transmitted to the next host. This is its life cycle. It is not a sentient being that wants to kill or spare anyone. Awful as it is for us, it's just trying to survive and thrive.

LastTrainEast · 30/04/2020 20:30

ACertainSupermarket "Maybe...it was 'planted' in Wuhan as there would be 2 credible sources to blame for its origin"

If they wanted to deceive people why start it there at all. Why not in some seaside town that has nothing more significant than coffee shops and B&Bs

Weallhavevalidopinions · 30/04/2020 20:34

" Sadie789 Thu 30-Apr-20 19:24:14
I think I quite clearly said I don’t believe any of the conspiracies- 5G, hoax, ID2020 etc - hence I am not a conspiracy theorist.
Call me deranged if you like, that seems like a rational response that most people have to anyone questioning the narrative being gently hammered into every simpleton’s head in the UK right now.
Cash will go. UBI will be introduced. Previous freedoms will be ancient history. Travel will be the preserve of the elite. Just some of the changes that will come from the back of the MEDIA and GOVERNMENT response to this pandemic. "

OK ..... I'll call you deranged ... as you wish.

People are dying. I know 2. I also know over 10 people who have recovered. Our hospital is very quiet, however several local nursing homes have it. Real people with a virus, some very ill.

The same is happening in other countries.

Now I get that you are scared so does it make it easier for you if silly theories are spouted rather than the crazy TRUTH than some viruses are contagious and some virus can kill people - pretty simple really.

AnastasiaBeverleyHills · 30/04/2020 20:37

@slipperywhensparticus & @Mordred

I am genuinely not sure if you were joking about the vaccine for Coronavirus.

Covid 19 is not the only coronavirus it is A coronavirus. There is more than one coronavirus. Pneumonia is caused by a coronavirus. That's also why coronavirus is listed on bleach. Yes they HAVE been around for years and yes they are known about. This one is a NOVEL coronavirus (new coronavirus) This is the problem with "non conspiracy theorists" discussing this. So much BS comes from lack of information.

LastTrainEast · 30/04/2020 20:47

Milliontjm86 you "believe it’s all to bring a vaccine so big pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money"

I won't be paying for a vaccine the government will. So why would the government go along with this? They would be tricking themselves out of their own money.

Not to mention the huge sums of money being handed to people who can't work currently.

slipperywhensparticus · 30/04/2020 20:57

@AnastasiaBeverleyHills

I've repeatedly stated the virus is real I've repeatedly pointed out that this is just a "they say" conspiracy theorists crap would you like it in blood? I already told you it's a COW VACCINE how us that going to help humans ffs your as bad as the facebook lot repeatedly mixing coronavirus with covid 19 its NOT THE SAME THING same family different virus

Bringringbring12 · 30/04/2020 20:58

So now you are only referring to digital content
But In previous post you say “newspaper”
It’s laughable

Tootletum · 30/04/2020 20:58

I can believe it's real and still think the response is wrong though.

LoveIslandVirgin · 30/04/2020 21:03

I love it when MN puts the world to rights 😂 😂 😂

I’m certain Boris consults the AIBU posts before facing the cameras.

GabsAlot · 30/04/2020 21:25

Of course its real how it came about i do question that

lazylinguist · 30/04/2020 21:38

To be brutally honest, you only need to look at the language skills and posting style of the conspiracy theorists to find out all you need to know about their level of intelligence.

CustardySergeant · 30/04/2020 21:41

thecatneuterer Someone I met recently said it can't possibly be true because 'where are all the bodies'? !

Did you ask them what they expect? Bodies put on display somewhere? Piled up in the streets maybe?

Rottnest · 30/04/2020 21:50

Has that person seen the news lately? Refrigerated trucks full of bodies behind a funeral parlour?

frumpety · 30/04/2020 21:53

Is anyone else getting a massive sense of De ja Vue about this thread , not necessarily the subject, but there are so many similarities to another relatively recent contentious issue ?

DKanin · 30/04/2020 21:58

I suppose some people think that everyone who's been taken to hospital with the virus is an actor and they've signed the official secrets act to stop them telling people the virus isn't real