Worried about coronavirus thread 23

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Welcome to thread 23
Here is a link to the previous thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3845520-Worried-about-coronavirus-thread-22

Slovakia declares state of emergency due to coronavirus; schools, entertainment venues, and major airports closed, entry will be denied to most foreigners

@Fourducksate I agree. We should trust the leading medical and scientific experts worldwide particularly the World Health Organisation. I must disagree about Boris though. He has no science or medical expertise but he's very bright.

All the deaths have been patients who were already unwell. From the reporting it has been suggested they were tested after being admitted to hospital with respiratory problems. Again without all the information you can only speculate.
If the virus has come in via half term skiers most will have been fit, healthy and mostly under 60 so possibly less likely to develop critical symptoms. We have no figures from the quarantined and self isolated potential carriers.There is so much information we don’t have so impossible to analyse the reported cases.

I’m not privy to the exact thinking of ministers, but the general thrust of it seems sound. There is no way to really prevent the virus spreading across the UK so the task is really to delay it

But the obvious thing to have done was a couple of weeks ago tell everyone returning from northern Italy to self isolate. They didn't listen and now its shrug of shoulders oh well its here now.

Not to mention if they had made everyone returning to self isolate, that would have significantly delayed the peak.

I originally thought the government had a good grip on this, but after letting 100s 1000s? of potential cases just carry on as normal made me start doubting them, nothing they have done or said since has persuaded otherwise.

and yes I did watch the Chris whitty questions, and I really don't have the time and inclination now to rewatch it to pull it apart for you. But no I was not reassured by him in the slightest.

"We clearly have serious cases as you dont have 10 people go straight from mild to dead, so why are they not reported?"

Hospitals are now testing patients with symptoms such as chest infections who are in hospital already or have gone in with something else.

Interesting @KinderWild

Was hoping maybe it really isn't so bad on children. Looking through twitter so far:

mobile.twitter.com/ZauggTom/status/1236849281887277056

mobile.twitter.com/kurosh_3/status/1233908980247822342?s=20

(not dancer)

Just got an email from Ticketmaster saying that a gig (The Who) we were going to in 2 weeks in Cardiff has been postponed, as has the tour.
Kind of expected it.
Pissed off at losing the train and hotel costs tho.
Oh well.

He has no science or medical expertise but he's very bright

Yes he’s bright enough but not a terribly deep thinker. Ex-journalist so good at grasping things quickly and interrogating stuff. How this translates to science-based stuff and population-level decision making who knows... I guess we’ll all find out.

Grasping things quickly at a reasonably high level I should have said there.

Hospitals have now been told to test those that are ill enough for hospital admission only and not just those who have travelled. Hence why my dd was sent away with half a bottle of antibiotics. I actually think we should not waste time and money now on testing because there isn't enough tests for all presenting with symptoms but focus attentions and money on treatment and opening up more ICU beds.

@thesunwillout you can normally get a refund on train tickets, worth a shot.

Just walking out of meeting now....

Nancy how is she doing?

I wondered this but could it be because people are being diagnosed post-death.

Children under 10 seem to be OK but what about 10+?

Also how exactly are they planning on flattening the curve?

Someone upthread said people would riot if there was no action....

I suddenly am thinking about a protest/riot where everyone is very careful to keep 2 metres away from everywhere and applies gel after smashing a window....

Have BBC not updated their numbers yet? Can’t see anything on there (other than the 10 deaths) sky updated half an hour ago!

I was at a major London hospital yesterday and was told by my consultant that they have cancelled everything but emergency and immediately life threatening surgery.
I was told that I would have had my surgery within two weeks because it is urgent, but must now wait until this crisis is under control - unless I become an emergency case - which could happen.
We also walked down corridors with rows of made up beds lining one side. Everywhere we went all we could hear was staff talking about the crisis and I have never seen so much cleaning and hand washing going on.

UEFA will suspend the Champions League and Europa League and will delay Euro 2020 until 2021. t.co/MH3yolkXNm

Is there going to be a statement?

I had a nap with pox child and hoped everything would be sorted when I woke...

U.S. man with coronavirus: 'I have had the flu before but I ain't never felt this bad' t.co/AMxYU7y1CD t.co/tD5iwAKhxr
Yahoo news

Article just released in the Guardian saying most Covid infections seem to have been spread by people who aren't yet showing symptoms, which makes isolation once symptomatic a lot less effective than we'd hoped.

@oakmaiden
Just had the exact same conversation with my husband 😂
Who's going to want to protest or riot??

@onlinelinda any disinfectant will be fine. I don't clean with bleach and use Zoflora x