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Conflict in the Middle East

US-Iran peace agreement discussion, part 4

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RedTagAlan · 13/08/2026 11:40

Thread 4 for those following and commenting on the above subject.

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RedTagAlan · 24/08/2026 10:56

BelleHathor · 24/08/2026 10:23

For real? No access, we still do in the UK, though whether an ordinary person can post opinion on IRGC linked channels is now a grey area in the UK since the new laws preventing "support" (The Lords had to add an exception for Journalists as the way the law was originally proposed meant they theoretically could have been charged!).

Funilly enough RT (Russian) is still geoblocked in the UK.

I just checked and I can get RT. Even the video works, but not very well.

Just now they have a program on about Ukrainian Nazis, and WW2 concentrations camps. About how Ukrainian Nazis killed so many Russians etc. But wait.. Ukrainians are actually Russian, but the Nazi Ukrainians were not ? That seems to be the gist.

Yeah, I remember now why I don't bother with it.

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Squeezingwildoranges · 24/08/2026 11:16

Newbutoldfather · 24/08/2026 10:54

@Squeezingwildoranges ,

I am not claiming that there are no other factors to happiness other than freedom. Obviously health is a huge factor, as is wealth, and those two are also correlated.

So, looking at autocratic regimes based on oil isn’t that helpful. The happiness index controls for compounding factors. It’s also logical that freer people are, on average, happier.

There are also more and less benign autocracies, and a lot are misogynistic. How happy do you think women are in Afghanistan, or Iran for that matter.

Whether wealth or democracy come first is a bit of a chicken-and-egg question.

If looking at autocratic regimes based on oil isn't that helpful then looking at the most oppressive Islamic state in the world isn't that helpful either. Afghanistan is the exception, not the norm. Look at images of Tehran before this shit show happened. Women were walking around quite happily without their hair covered. Some were but that must have been a personal choice if it wasn't being enforced on the others. That is a logical argument. I'm sorry but I don't agree that it is logical that freer people are on average happier. What does freer mean. People have freedom in Jordan or Oman neither of which are democracies and the average person is perfectly happy.

kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:16

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RedTagAlan · 24/08/2026 11:20

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I think it's called activism.

People get jailed for that in authoritarian countries.

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kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:21

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Look at images of Tehran before this shit show happened. Women were walking around quite happily without their hair covered.

You mean like Mahsa Amini?

Squeezingwildoranges · 24/08/2026 11:21

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What an ironic statement!

kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:23

RedTagAlan · 24/08/2026 11:20

I think it's called activism.

People get jailed for that in authoritarian countries.

Copy and pasting from AI at anonymous strangers and calling them dumbfucks is considered activism these days? That's depressing.

kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:23

Squeezingwildoranges · 24/08/2026 11:21

What an ironic statement!

How so?

Squeezingwildoranges · 24/08/2026 11:25

kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:23

How so?

You just attacked an online stranger while accusing them of attacking online strangers.

kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:26

Squeezingwildoranges · 24/08/2026 11:25

You just attacked an online stranger while accusing them of attacking online strangers.

I didn't brag about how it's my new hobby though, did I? That's the part that makes it really sad.

Squeezingwildoranges · 24/08/2026 11:28

kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:26

I didn't brag about how it's my new hobby though, did I? That's the part that makes it really sad.

You still attacked her for no reason as far as I can see.

RedTagAlan · 24/08/2026 11:33

kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:23

Copy and pasting from AI at anonymous strangers and calling them dumbfucks is considered activism these days? That's depressing.

Why ?

I do not have access to AI, and that poster knows that. I said I had no idea what " semi official media" is, and a poster looked it up and posted to the board. I would say that is pretty helpful to all. Helps endure we are all on the same page re what it means. If anyone disagrees with what the AI said, then they can say so and discuss. As is the norm.

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kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:35

Squeezingwildoranges · 24/08/2026 11:28

You still attacked her for no reason as far as I can see.

So it's fine for her to attack people but not fine for me to comment on it? At least I haven't called anyone a dumbfuck.

kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:36

RedTagAlan · 24/08/2026 11:33

Why ?

I do not have access to AI, and that poster knows that. I said I had no idea what " semi official media" is, and a poster looked it up and posted to the board. I would say that is pretty helpful to all. Helps endure we are all on the same page re what it means. If anyone disagrees with what the AI said, then they can say so and discuss. As is the norm.

The purpose of activism is usually to change things. I doubt arguing with people online whom you consider lesser than you does anything except make the person doing it feel smug.

Squeezingwildoranges · 24/08/2026 11:39

kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:35

So it's fine for her to attack people but not fine for me to comment on it? At least I haven't called anyone a dumbfuck.

You literally called her a dick!

RedTagAlan · 24/08/2026 11:42

kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:36

The purpose of activism is usually to change things. I doubt arguing with people online whom you consider lesser than you does anything except make the person doing it feel smug.

Nah. Pick any subject and there will be online activists. Just look at any thread on the feminist board.

It would be a bit boring is forums were just people with no interest and no passion for anything posting.

You are here actively doing something. I am not sure what you are doing. Maybe you are defending the pro bombing folk, no idea.

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kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:44

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kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:46

RedTagAlan · 24/08/2026 11:42

Nah. Pick any subject and there will be online activists. Just look at any thread on the feminist board.

It would be a bit boring is forums were just people with no interest and no passion for anything posting.

You are here actively doing something. I am not sure what you are doing. Maybe you are defending the pro bombing folk, no idea.

What I'm doing is not activism, I'm not that full of myself to think it is. But if you think someone arguing with so-called dumbfucks while patting themselves on the back will change the world then great.

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2026 11:49

Glad you joined just to tell us that.

Squeezingwildoranges · 24/08/2026 11:50

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Probably because I agree with her that people cheering for bombs destroying peoples countries turning them into refugees are dumbfucks. Saying being a dick is calling her a dick. It's a personal attack out of the blue.

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2026 11:55

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/iran-says-it-discovered-over-75-trillion-cubic-feet-gas-2026-08-23/

Mediator Pakistan to hold talks in Iran on US 'economic D-Day'

RedTagAlan · 24/08/2026 11:56

kuromeen · 24/08/2026 11:46

What I'm doing is not activism, I'm not that full of myself to think it is. But if you think someone arguing with so-called dumbfucks while patting themselves on the back will change the world then great.

What are you doing ?

Bad language on adult public forum police ?

Are you plugged into the web to search for the word " dumbfucks" so you can search and destroy ?

You could at least explain where you are coming from. Why you find that post so troubling that it spurs you into activism.

As an example. I once used the word "gammon" on a Reform thread. I was pulled up, posters explained why they found it offensive, and now I no longer post the word "gammon". Except for just now of course.

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kuromeen · 24/08/2026 12:02

Squeezingwildoranges · 24/08/2026 11:50

Probably because I agree with her that people cheering for bombs destroying peoples countries turning them into refugees are dumbfucks. Saying being a dick is calling her a dick. It's a personal attack out of the blue.

So it's fine for her to insult people because you agree with her, but not fine for me to insult her because she's on your "side". Gotcha.

Squeezingwildoranges · 24/08/2026 12:02

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2026 11:55

This is not going to end well!

RedTagAlan · 24/08/2026 12:02

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2026 11:55

Re the gas claim. They might as well have added that they found a rare earths mountain too.

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