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Should the international community sanction Israel over settler violence in West Bank?

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FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 20:03

The problem of Israeli terrorism is getting worse and worse. Just over the past few weeks amongst other things Israeli terrorists have killed multiple people, commited sexual assault, beaten and threatened to rape young Palestinian girls, continually attacked the residents and property of the only remaining fully Christian town in the West Bank, stolen 100s of sheep from the Bedouin community, beaten activists who are there to provide a protective presence to Palestinians, set fire to property.

Palestinians don't have the right to defend themselves from this violent, rapidly escalating Israeli terrorism. They can't arrest and detain the Israeli terrorists. They are sitting ducks with no means of protecting themselves from beatings and sexual violence. Is it time that the international community steps in and sanctions Israel until they can control their obvious terrorism problem? What else can be done to try and protect innocent people from this escalating Israeli violence?

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FloralDeerPattern · 03/09/2026 18:02

The IDF kill 2 teenagers who were trying to defend their flock from Israeli 'settlers' and demolish a whole village with no prior warning leaving 70 people and over 20 children homeless. The families who have been cleansed from the village have roots there that predate the state of Israel, it is the 66th Palestinian community to be ethnically cleansed by Israeli authorities since October 2023. When is enough going to be enough?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6482r6yl4o

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cantgardenintherain · 03/09/2026 19:50

Yes. It’s been clear for a while that they are intending to take as much land as they can get, however they can get it.

MissyB1 · 03/09/2026 20:39

FloralDeerPattern · 03/09/2026 18:02

The IDF kill 2 teenagers who were trying to defend their flock from Israeli 'settlers' and demolish a whole village with no prior warning leaving 70 people and over 20 children homeless. The families who have been cleansed from the village have roots there that predate the state of Israel, it is the 66th Palestinian community to be ethnically cleansed by Israeli authorities since October 2023. When is enough going to be enough?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6482r6yl4o

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The genocide and ethnic cleansing continues - impossible to understand how anyone could continue to deny it.

OpenScroller · 03/09/2026 20:51

FloralDeerPattern · 03/09/2026 18:02

The IDF kill 2 teenagers who were trying to defend their flock from Israeli 'settlers' and demolish a whole village with no prior warning leaving 70 people and over 20 children homeless. The families who have been cleansed from the village have roots there that predate the state of Israel, it is the 66th Palestinian community to be ethnically cleansed by Israeli authorities since October 2023. When is enough going to be enough?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6482r6yl4o

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Hmm, who to believe?

The Israeli military stated that its forces had entered the village to provide security for an Israeli civilian and police trying to retrieve livestock.

It said the forces fired on and struck what it called "key instigators" of a "violent disturbance", in which Palestinians threw stones at its troops.

Loads of videos on X that never make it to MSM showing Palestinians attacking Israeli farmers, letting sheep out of fields and pushing them onto their land, evidence of poisoning cattle and setting land ablaze to cause wildfires. Rock throwing and stabbings as well of course.

I don't think the violence is one sided.

Martymcfly24 · 03/09/2026 20:56

MissyB1 · 03/09/2026 20:39

The genocide and ethnic cleansing continues - impossible to understand how anyone could continue to deny it.

There's no point in denying it they are saying it themselves with no shame.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/02/israel-seeking-trumps-support-for-plan-to-expel-palestinians-from-gaza

Israel’s defence minister has said his country is seeking Donald Trump’s support to approve plans to expel Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.

It's what they wanted from the start.

Israel ‘seeking Trump’s support for plan to expel Palestinians from Gaza’

Defence minister says he believes US backing could tip regional balance in favour of forced resettlement

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/02/israel-seeking-trumps-support-for-plan-to-expel-palestinians-from-gaza

FloralDeerPattern · 03/09/2026 21:16

MissyB1 · 03/09/2026 20:39

The genocide and ethnic cleansing continues - impossible to understand how anyone could continue to deny it.

Not just how any one could deny it, but how anyone could not want action taken.

One has to wonder why the British government are not acting on the wishes of the population.

62% of UK adults want economic sanctions on Israel, only 18% oppose this.
65% want all arms sales to Israel banned, only 11% oppose this.
60% support an end to the UK Israel trade agreement, 16-18% oppose this.

The percentage of people who want the UK to continue to support Israels clear ethnic cleansing is clearly very, very low. So why the reticence? Its an easy win, you stop supporting ethnic cleansing and you gain the approval of the majority of the adult population?

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OpenScroller · 03/09/2026 21:26

Martymcfly24 · 03/09/2026 20:56

There's no point in denying it they are saying it themselves with no shame.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/02/israel-seeking-trumps-support-for-plan-to-expel-palestinians-from-gaza

Israel’s defence minister has said his country is seeking Donald Trump’s support to approve plans to expel Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.

It's what they wanted from the start.

Don't blame them. This cycle will never stop otherwise.

Jordan should let them in. It has enough room and was the Arab State created out of the British Mandate anyway.

Palestinians lived peacefully under Jordanian rule previously, so much so they didn't feel the need to lobby for their own State. They have no leaders who legitimately want peace with Israel while Hamas and the PA have a stranglehold.

Jordan is a peaceful country and the international community will give billions to set up infrastructure and services. Millions of the Westerners protesting for Palestinians will also want to help.

Those kids deserve to have the opportunity to grow up in peace. Don't you agree?

FloralDeerPattern · 03/09/2026 22:07

Martymcfly24 · 03/09/2026 20:56

There's no point in denying it they are saying it themselves with no shame.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/02/israel-seeking-trumps-support-for-plan-to-expel-palestinians-from-gaza

Israel’s defence minister has said his country is seeking Donald Trump’s support to approve plans to expel Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.

It's what they wanted from the start.

Do you remember when Israel were killing children collecting water and posters here were like 'why would they do that deliberately, I don't believe that they would kill children deliberately, they have no reason to'. This is WHY Israel have been killing children deliberately. They want Palestinians gone, simple as. It's such a pity everyone didn't listen years ago when people were saying that this was their intention. So much loss and suffering could have been prevented.

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rainingsnoring · 03/09/2026 22:12

OpenScroller · 03/09/2026 20:51

Hmm, who to believe?

The Israeli military stated that its forces had entered the village to provide security for an Israeli civilian and police trying to retrieve livestock.

It said the forces fired on and struck what it called "key instigators" of a "violent disturbance", in which Palestinians threw stones at its troops.

Loads of videos on X that never make it to MSM showing Palestinians attacking Israeli farmers, letting sheep out of fields and pushing them onto their land, evidence of poisoning cattle and setting land ablaze to cause wildfires. Rock throwing and stabbings as well of course.

I don't think the violence is one sided.

So you mean that some, brave Palestinians, living in a long occupied territory, have been strong enough to fight back against the invaders and now the Israelis are complaining? Got it!

Ellen2shoes · 03/09/2026 22:33

The percentage of people who want the UK to continue to support Israels clear ethnic cleansing is clearly very, very low. So why the reticence? @FloralDeerPattern

There’s such a pervasive dissonance isn’t there. Someone on this board once said that Palestine was making people ‘mentally ill.’ Anyone who is around young people in the UK can see that they are utterly confused by life. It isn’t the Israel/Palestine situation in isolation obviously but I can certainly see how this is compounding distress. The undermining of the moral codes by which our children were brought up - watching those in power turning a blind eye/lying to justify atrocities which they can clearly see live-streamed daily - these kids aren’t stupid.

JadeHare · 04/09/2026 00:06

Jordan is a peaceful country and the international community will give billions to set up infrastructure and services. Millions of the Westerners protesting for Palestinians will also want to help.

WTF? They could live peacefully in their own country if Israel backed off. I can’t believe people like you exist to be honest.

OpenScroller · 04/09/2026 02:05

JadeHare · 04/09/2026 00:06

Jordan is a peaceful country and the international community will give billions to set up infrastructure and services. Millions of the Westerners protesting for Palestinians will also want to help.

WTF? They could live peacefully in their own country if Israel backed off. I can’t believe people like you exist to be honest.

Didn't they deliberately start the war by invading and committing genocide in Israel though? You can't argue about the intent there, can you?

The only reason they don't live peacefully in their country is because they keep rejecting one. 2008 was the last time I believe.

Now why would someone airbrush those well known facts out of their narrative?

I know many people like you exist.

Israel is not going to roll over and let itself be annihilated so Palestinians can take all the land and make it Muslim again.

Palestinians have never shown any intent to make peace because they want all the land to make it Muslim again.

So why do you think Palestinian kids should continue to suffer and be indoctrinated for an evil ideology that uses them as human sacrifices for a failed cause?

Please explain your rationale.

OpenScroller · 04/09/2026 02:17

rainingsnoring · 03/09/2026 22:12

So you mean that some, brave Palestinians, living in a long occupied territory, have been strong enough to fight back against the invaders and now the Israelis are complaining? Got it!

No, you must have misunderstood me - easily done I guess.

Terror attacks against Israelis in the WB have long been unreported in the MSM.

I don't believe the Israeli farmers are to blame for all the violence either.

It's not 'brave' and 'strong' to poison defenceless animals so they die a painful death, put traps out for dogs, set wildfires, throw rocks at cars to cause car accidents, stab people in the back, and stage propaganda videos to claim you are the victims.

It's pathetic and cowardly IMO.

Especially when the reason you are apparently 'occupied' is because you refused to declare your own State and chose even more cowardly terrorism instead.

rainingsnoring · 04/09/2026 06:55

OpenScroller · 04/09/2026 02:17

No, you must have misunderstood me - easily done I guess.

Terror attacks against Israelis in the WB have long been unreported in the MSM.

I don't believe the Israeli farmers are to blame for all the violence either.

It's not 'brave' and 'strong' to poison defenceless animals so they die a painful death, put traps out for dogs, set wildfires, throw rocks at cars to cause car accidents, stab people in the back, and stage propaganda videos to claim you are the victims.

It's pathetic and cowardly IMO.

Especially when the reason you are apparently 'occupied' is because you refused to declare your own State and chose even more cowardly terrorism instead.

Oh dear. No, no misunderstanding on my part.

In fact, I think all the posters on this thread can understand you and your agenda very well.

Martymcfly24 · 04/09/2026 07:57

FloralDeerPattern · 03/09/2026 22:07

Do you remember when Israel were killing children collecting water and posters here were like 'why would they do that deliberately, I don't believe that they would kill children deliberately, they have no reason to'. This is WHY Israel have been killing children deliberately. They want Palestinians gone, simple as. It's such a pity everyone didn't listen years ago when people were saying that this was their intention. So much loss and suffering could have been prevented.

I do remember that. Same as the children murdered while queuing for supplements. I read a piece recently about the woman whose baby was shot at her breast. Heartbreaking to think of her pain in that moment.

Maybe the question of wouldn't you want your children to be safe could be reframed as we will murder enough if your children that you will want to go.

Newbutoldfather · 04/09/2026 08:31

@OpenScroller ,

‘Jordan should let them in. It has enough room and was the Arab State created out of the British Mandate anyway.

Palestinians lived peacefully under Jordanian rule previously, so much so they didn't feel the need to lobby for their own State. They have no leaders who legitimately want peace with Israel while Hamas and the PA have a stranglehold.’

Do you think telling people to just move to be with ‘their own people’ is acceptable? How would that precedent look to the diaspora, all immigrants who have made their homes elsewhere. Sure, Israel would let me in! Only one problem, I am British in law and by culture, not Israeli.

Expelling Palestinians by force would be an invitation to antisemitism and pogroms on the diaspora.

Don’t be ridiculous! We want peace, not endless self perpetuating prejudice.

Squeezingwildoranges · 04/09/2026 08:36

@OpenScroller, "Didn't they deliberately start the war by invading and committing genocide in Israel though? You can't argue about the intent there, can you?".

No, they didn't start the war. Up to Oct 7th, Israel had murdered 5 times as many Palestinians in Gaza than Hamas did. They called it mowing the grass.

Twiglets1 · 04/09/2026 08:46

rainingsnoring · 04/09/2026 06:55

Oh dear. No, no misunderstanding on my part.

In fact, I think all the posters on this thread can understand you and your agenda very well.

I don’t see an agenda from @OpenScroller just a difference of opinion.

You probably think I have an agenda too but people are allowed to express different opinions in a debate. Otherwise it’s an echo chamber not a discussion forum.

Twiglets1 · 04/09/2026 08:51

Squeezingwildoranges · 04/09/2026 08:36

@OpenScroller, "Didn't they deliberately start the war by invading and committing genocide in Israel though? You can't argue about the intent there, can you?".

No, they didn't start the war. Up to Oct 7th, Israel had murdered 5 times as many Palestinians in Gaza than Hamas did. They called it mowing the grass.

They did start the war that began on 7/10/23.

The two sides were not at war on the day before the Hamas attack as you know.

Squeezingwildoranges · 04/09/2026 08:56

Twiglets1 · 04/09/2026 08:51

They did start the war that began on 7/10/23.

The two sides were not at war on the day before the Hamas attack as you know.

I said Israel had murdered 5 times as many Palestinians than Oct 7th. They called it mowing the grass. If that is not war, what do you call it. Actually what Israel is doing in Gaza is not war. War is between two armies. Hamas are not an army. It is a genocide.

Twiglets1 · 04/09/2026 08:59

Martymcfly24 · 03/09/2026 20:56

There's no point in denying it they are saying it themselves with no shame.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/02/israel-seeking-trumps-support-for-plan-to-expel-palestinians-from-gaza

Israel’s defence minister has said his country is seeking Donald Trump’s support to approve plans to expel Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.

It's what they wanted from the start.

It’s what Katz may have wanted from the start but he is a hardliner he does not represent the whole of Israel.

Any more than extremists in British politics represent the British people. If Reform or Restore formed a coalition with the Conservative Party and got into power - God forbid - their extreme views still wouldn’t represent the majority view.

Twiglets1 · 04/09/2026 09:03

Squeezingwildoranges · 04/09/2026 08:56

I said Israel had murdered 5 times as many Palestinians than Oct 7th. They called it mowing the grass. If that is not war, what do you call it. Actually what Israel is doing in Gaza is not war. War is between two armies. Hamas are not an army. It is a genocide.

I don’t call it war because it wasn’t a war.

You can’t just label things how you want to label things. It’s factual that Israel & Hamas were not in a war before 7/10/23 and it’s factual who triggered the war with their actions that day.

Squeezingwildoranges · 04/09/2026 09:03

Twiglets1 · 04/09/2026 08:59

It’s what Katz may have wanted from the start but he is a hardliner he does not represent the whole of Israel.

Any more than extremists in British politics represent the British people. If Reform or Restore formed a coalition with the Conservative Party and got into power - God forbid - their extreme views still wouldn’t represent the majority view.

The Sovereignty Movement Poll: A poll released ahead of the right-wing Sovereignty Movement conference found that 73% of the Jewish Israeli public supports "encouraging the voluntary emigration" of Gaza Strip residents to other countries.
https://www.ribonut.co.il/BlogPostID.aspx?BlogPostId=1051&lang=2

It's not just the majority view. It's overwhelmingly the majority view.

JadeHare · 04/09/2026 09:08

Twiglets1 · 04/09/2026 08:59

It’s what Katz may have wanted from the start but he is a hardliner he does not represent the whole of Israel.

Any more than extremists in British politics represent the British people. If Reform or Restore formed a coalition with the Conservative Party and got into power - God forbid - their extreme views still wouldn’t represent the majority view.

Got any facts or figures to back up your claim?

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