WM police at fault for banning Israelis in Birmingham

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cze83gw4w2xo

This quite frankly stinks. It seems to me the police have succumbed to local anti Semitic politicians and a vocal Muslim majority in the local area of the stadium to ban Israeli fans with what looked like fabricated reasons.

I know, not only is the crap piling up high on mumsnet, it's also on the streets !
But thank you for your sympathy. @Kingscallops

I wonder what particular problem you have with Gideon 🤔

You are just not seeing this for what it is. Local Muslims threatened to attack Jewish football fans if they visited their enclave of Birmingham so the police said “ok, nice local Muslim leaders, we’ll give you what you want and pretend it’s the nasty Jews who are the problem.”

I guess they just never imagined Parliament would be interested in knowing the truth.

As someone on another thread said, imagine if the roles were changed with black people in place of the Maccabi fans and Tommy Robinson’s gang in place of the Muslim locals.

Oh my lord.

Well that crap adds on top of the crap Jewish residents in Brum have to put up with.

We live in a multicultural society, so stop making trouble, boys in blue.

Your job is to protect people, not ban Jews.

Did you not see the FULL video of his escapade, recorded over at least 30 minutes, where he tried repeatedly to get into the march? Recorded at a number of locations he attempted to persuade the police to get in amongst the marchers to provoke a reaction. They prevented him from doing so as they couldn't protect the little twerp. Having looked at the footage, the coppers did very well showing a great deal of patience. Again, what they were doing was keeping the peace..... their job.

What has this got to do with the Maccabi decision? Unless you’re saying we must always ask Jews to change their behaviour to avoid upsetting other groups?

Jews being held to a higher standard, as per. Never mind the intolerant thugs who are running the streets of Birmingham.

You have a problem with a visibly Jewish man going for a walk? You need to reflect on why that is, it is incredibly problematic.

I have met Gideon Falter and he is a kind, reasoned and highly intelligent man. Like anyone, he deserves the right to not have his movement curtailed because of his ethnicity.

I'm chuckling at Gideon described as having a 'heavy'. He needs more than one .

"You have a problem with a visibly Jewish man going for a walk?" @Aislyn

Yes, if he deliberately trying to rile a crowd, for the purposes of getting it on video. Especially when he is accompanied by someone trained in the use of force and who could well have been carrying arms.

If you really want to know why I described him as a "twerp", within this item is a transcript of his exchange with the police.
It makes one cringe.

news.sky.com/story/sky-news-footage-reveals-new-details-of-exchange-between-police-and-antisemitism-campaigner-called-openly-jewish-13120104?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

You are relying on falsehoods here. There is no evidence that anyone was carrying arms.

He was not trying to rile a crowd, he was going on a walk. If going on a walk as a minority 'riles a crowd', then the problem is the crowd, not the minority.

"You are relying on falsehoods here. There is no evidence that anyone was carrying arms." @Aislyn

Circumstantial..... and plausible.
Gideon's "mate" who accompanied him.

www.linkedin.com/in/vicentiu-chiculita-68728a14b/?originalSubdomain=uk

Hmmm, I don't fancy my chances now that I've outed him.
This might be my last ever pos.......

Look, even David Aaronovitch maintains GF was doing a stunt.

Yes, blatant racism.

What a terrible thing to say. All Jews have to perfect? Can you not disagree with one, or even vehemently dislike them without them being a disgrace to the faith?

I really do think you're protesting too much. Why do Jews have to be better? What's your yardstick? They aren't the ones needing putting under the spot light. They just want to be left alone. Also, there would be no talk of needing heavies or stirring up trouble if the antisemitic mobs didn't start trouble week in week out.

Flipping hell.

I know, thank you.

Do you measure muslims' standards by Hamas? No, of course not and rightly so but you have no problem doing the same to the Jewish community. I think we've got the message.