This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 6)

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/08/idf-has-long-history-of-denying-involvement-in-civilian-killings

The utterly heartbreaking thing about starting these threads is how simple it is to find the opening link.

When will they stop?

Are you wilfully misunderstanding what I am saying?

When Al shifa hospital was first targeted and the media were taken by the IDF for a tour of the hospital most concluded that there was no solid evidence of Hamas use or a base. Why is that? Why didn't the IDF show proof during their tour?

For those who aren't blinkered:

About Hamas and Disarmament: Hamas continues to refuse any ceasefire deals that would require disarmament to end the war. This is not because the group really cares about resistance or is worried about another Sabra and Shatila massacre, as their propaganda claims — the number of Palestinians dead from this war that Hamas triggered in Gaza far exceeds that of all Palestinian lives lost over the past five-plus decades combined. Furthermore, the current arsenal of Hamas is utterly useless. It has been decimated, reduced to a bunch of rusted rockets that often fall back into Gaza and fail to cause any serious damage to Israeli targets, with the group’s bench of leadership and experienced fighters almost entirely eliminated and without any means to replenish its stockpiles.

What Hamas is refusing to accept is to give up its role and ultimate control over Gaza, which is solely and only maintained by the group's thuggery and weaponry that is turned inwards to suppress any opposition. In effect, Hamas is refusing to give up a bunch of AKs and small firearms that are only useful against unarmed civilians who have grown tired of the terror group’s rule and fascism. Hamas couldn't care less about using its arsenal against Israel at this point; it is mainly refusing to leave Gaza and give up control of its weaponry because it doesn’t want to lose access to the billions of dollars that it once had as a result of its power and rule in the Gaza Strip. Remember: governance, control, rule, and power equal relevance, money, dominion, real estate, resources, jobs, and vast economic interests – that’s the heart of Hamas’s rule.

Did you know that Gaza’s first shopping malls were created during the blockade by Hamas-affiliated businessmen? Do you know how many Hamas hundred-thousandaires and millionaires were made due to the group’s rise to power and control of Gaza, even as 70% if of the population were made aid dependent? If you still believe the “resistance” lies, pity you!

Again by Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib.

Hamas have lost. They need to rewrite their charter that refuses to accept the existence and legitimacy of Israel and both sides need to work towards a two state solution

'Just echoing what I was told when using similar sources. If it's not ok for one side then why for the other?'

That you? What were you told then?

@pollypaintsflowers you know you can be pro-israel and still admit that the IDF should not be bombing hospitals and schools. It won't make you any less pro-Israel.

Here you go.

Maybe Hamas shouldn't be hiding in schools and building tunnels in a kindergarten. There's plenty of video evidence. You know under IHL buildings lose their protected status if militants are either in them or use them for military purposes

Stop trying to justify war crimes.

I'm not sure what relevance you think that has

Why would Palestinian sources, who are well placed to know the truth, who have been critical of both sides, be biased?

Are you going to try and justify the IDF murdering medics and crushin their ambulances aswell?

It's not a war crime, as I said in the post you quoted. You need to read up on IHL

And you need to read up how many lies the IDF have constantly been caught out on.

Even the BBC and the Red Cross agrees with me

How many lies have Hamas been caught out on, but that's a seperate issue to your claim that it's a war crime to bomb schools and hospitals

The IDF are terrorist murderers who murder Palestinian children every single day. If you want to carry on blindly defending every single action of theirs, then that's on you.

Posting this again as it seems some people really don't want this to be discussed or the IDF's war crimes and lies pointed out.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/two-hours-of-terror-sky-news-investigation-reveals-how-israels-deadly-attack-on-aid-workers-unfolded-13348776

The IDF is an army fighting in a war to protect their country from a neighbouring terrorist organisation that has vowed to wipe it out and filmed and broadcast itself going on a murderous rampage, raping and mutilating as it went on October 7th.

Maybe Hamas should agree to the ceasefire and stop hiding behind civilians. Maybe they should never have started the war in the first place. Just a thought. I mean, they could end all this today, why aren't they? They've just turned down another ceasefire deal.

You can bang on about the IDF (while staying silent about Hamas' atrocities and responsibility) all you like but they didn't start this war.

Ironically, it may be Palestinian civilians who force Hamas' hand. They're protesting in their thousands against Hamas, risking death and some actually being killed by Hamas. I stand with them and the Israelis that were harmed on 7/10 and those who want to live side by side in peace

You appear to not actually care about Palestinians, they're just a useful stick for you to bash Israel with.

@Whatsinanamehey that article is excellent . A very comprehensive investigation. It is extremely damning on the part of the IDF. It also shows the continuing lies that have been used to justify the murders that they are members of Hamas when no evidence is provided.

You appear to not actually care about Palestinians, they're just a useful stick for you to bash Israel with

Do you personally know any Palestinians who have been murdered by the IDF in Gaza and the occupied west bank? If not then I suggest you take your psycho analysis elsewhere.

@PollyPaintsFlowers
"You appear to not actually care about Palestinians, they're just a useful stick for you to bash Israel with."

That is an absolutely disgusting assertion of a poster. It is clear that you lack the understanding that yes @Whatsinanamehey and others actually do care about Palestinians and not everything is about bashing Israel just their awful actions on innocent people.

If you've posted anywhere on how horrific Hamas is for Palestinians and their treatment of them, and how Gaza needs to be freed from their violent rule and hold free elections I'll stand corrected

It's a fair assumption I made based on their posts and glib dismissal of Palestinian voices providing evidence that they denied existed

And you are once again wilfully misunderstanding what I meant so I'm going to stop engaging with you.

You are welcome to go look for it.

It's not only damning for this incident but rightly brings into question what other lies have been said.