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Conflict in the Middle East

To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

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BotanicalCake · 03/04/2025 21:34

We are back to hundreds of Gazans being killed each day after the so called ceasefire and over 50,000 now slaughtered, mostly women and children.
The bombing of hospitals, schools and 'safe zones' not being enough, they are now picking off paramedics. How much depravity is the world going to tolerate?

AIBU to suggest that the world leaders complicit in Netanyahu's genocide should all stand before the Hague?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

The Guardian view on Israel’s killing of paramedics: a new atrocity in an unending conflict | Editorial

Editorial: Impunity over Palestinian deaths in Gaza will lead to further cases like this massacre of rescue and healthcare workers

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

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Mylegishangingoff · 05/04/2025 14:04

Silence1 · 05/04/2025 13:33

Agreed OP
It's absolutely disgusting what Israel is doing.
A disgrace that the UK Govt calls them our ally.
Not only is Israel's behavior in Gaza of concern but also in Syria and Lebanon.
Israel is lobbying the US to allow Russia to stay in Syria. Israel wants Syria to stay weak and destabilized and they also want to land grab there. They are ignoring international calls to pull back out of Syria and continually strike it.

And it appears Israel maybe lying again just like they did when they murdered British citizens and the World Kitchen aid workers Video emerges of aid workers being fired on in Gaza - contradicting Israeli account of deadly attack | World News | Sky News

It's so awful. The killing of aid workers in cold blood and the destruction of live saving equipment. It's really horrifying to know that those poor workers knew that they would have to film their own deaths in order for it to be believed. 15 murdered aid workers buried in a mass grave and a surviving aid worker telling the story of what happened wasn't enough for the world. They needed the men to film their own deaths before some(still not all) will listen.

Gansy · 05/04/2025 14:13

ViolaPlains · 05/04/2025 10:48

That’s an absolute false equivalence and bears no resemblance.

Can you say in what way?

Clavinova · 05/04/2025 14:16

a surviving aid worker telling the story of what happened wasn't enough for the world

Although the surviving aid worker said the vehicles always travelled with their internal lights on - which doesn't appear to be the case here. The person filming on his phone is clearly sitting in a dark cabin.

cindyhove · 05/04/2025 14:16

As of April 5, 2025, numerous armed conflicts are ongoing worldwide, varying in scale and intensity. According to the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, over 110 armed conflicts are currently being monitored, encompassing both international and non-international engagements.

why is israel the only one to be demonised out of the 110 current conflicts??

Now tell me you’re not sowing anti semitic propaganda??

Wibble128 · 05/04/2025 14:26

Release the hostages, let the worlds press in on the Hamas side of the lines to report subjectively. Stop sending untargetted rockets into Israel. Would be a good start. Contacting the IDF to let them know the locations of Hamas terorists. Or just let Israel hunt down and finish off Hamas.

Mylegishangingoff · 05/04/2025 14:28

Clavinova · 05/04/2025 14:16

a surviving aid worker telling the story of what happened wasn't enough for the world

Although the surviving aid worker said the vehicles always travelled with their internal lights on - which doesn't appear to be the case here. The person filming on his phone is clearly sitting in a dark cabin.

And? What is your point in posting that small detail that a traumatised man who had watched his crewmates be executed got wrong? Are you attempting to defend the killing of aid workers and Israels lying in an attempt to cover up what are clearly cold blooded executions? I notice that you haven't condemned their killings, does it not bother you at all you that Israel are clearly breaking international law and if the brave aid worker had not have filmed his own execution Israels lies would have been the prevailing narrative?

Gansy · 05/04/2025 14:30

@cindyhove All genocide is bad.
This in particular is bad because The West actively backs it. My elected politicians are backing it, my tax money is backing it. The country where I live sends arms to perpetrate it. Allows artillery shipments to pass through our ports unchecked to perpetuate it. Sends air force to protect it. Blocks reporting on it.

We shouldn’t actively back it.

Mylegishangingoff · 05/04/2025 14:34

cindyhove · 05/04/2025 14:16

As of April 5, 2025, numerous armed conflicts are ongoing worldwide, varying in scale and intensity. According to the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, over 110 armed conflicts are currently being monitored, encompassing both international and non-international engagements.

why is israel the only one to be demonised out of the 110 current conflicts??

Now tell me you’re not sowing anti semitic propaganda??

You are just desperate for people to stop talking about it aren't you? It's always pro Israel people who are desperate for people to turn away, it's no wonder really is it? Its been difficult to defend the repeated breaches of International law for a while now. It would be much easier if people just pretended not to seem them.

Gloriia · 05/04/2025 14:38

'All genocide is bad'

It. Isn't. Genocide.

It is a war zone and palestinian civilians will sadly get killed when Hamas hides among them.

WatTyler · 05/04/2025 14:39

As the casualty figures don't identify (i) the number of murdering Hamas psychos who have been rightfully killed fighting Israel, nor (ii) the number of actual civilians killed who had been unwillingly pressed into service as human shields for Hamas HQs, arsenals, etc. and (iii) are entirely fictitious anyway, I suggest everybody pipes down and lets Israel finish the job.

Gloriia · 05/04/2025 14:41

Wibble128 · 05/04/2025 14:26

Release the hostages, let the worlds press in on the Hamas side of the lines to report subjectively. Stop sending untargetted rockets into Israel. Would be a good start. Contacting the IDF to let them know the locations of Hamas terorists. Or just let Israel hunt down and finish off Hamas.

Totally agree.

Clavinova · 05/04/2025 14:42

Mylegishangingoff
What is your point in posting that small detail

I think it's quite an important detail - is there a prior arrangement that emergency vehicles should travel with their internal lights on?

Gansy · 05/04/2025 14:43

Gloriia · 05/04/2025 14:38

'All genocide is bad'

It. Isn't. Genocide.

It is a war zone and palestinian civilians will sadly get killed when Hamas hides among them.

It is genocide. There is no doubt about it.

I’m going to take the UN and the ICC’s word on this rather than your evidenced opinion.

Gloriia · 05/04/2025 14:51

'the ICC’s word'

The ICC . The same group that run around issuing arrest warrants willy nilly with absolutely no effect. Didn't they want to arrest members of ISIS as if it that were even possible or feasible. Now they want to arrest Netanyahu. Sorry, their opinion doesn't count for much.

Genocide is the mass killing of an ethnic group in an attempt to wipe them out. Not retaliation in a conflict which is the case in Gaza.

Gansy · 05/04/2025 15:01

Gloriia · 05/04/2025 14:51

'the ICC’s word'

The ICC . The same group that run around issuing arrest warrants willy nilly with absolutely no effect. Didn't they want to arrest members of ISIS as if it that were even possible or feasible. Now they want to arrest Netanyahu. Sorry, their opinion doesn't count for much.

Genocide is the mass killing of an ethnic group in an attempt to wipe them out. Not retaliation in a conflict which is the case in Gaza.

Well, there’s the flagrant disregard. I’ll rest my case. ISIS like Putin do not living in countries which are part of the ICC!

Package it whatever way you need to justify it for yourself. This is mass extermination on our watch with our tax money.

This is genocide in all of its definitions and opinions like yours support it and perpetrate it.

Clavinova · 05/04/2025 15:05

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 05/04/2025 14:53

It’s a bunch of lies too, from Israel Video footage appears to contradict Israeli account of Gaza medic killings https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2z103nqxo

Longer footage here - one vehicle is filmed with internal lights on.

Gloriia · 05/04/2025 15:09

Gansy · 05/04/2025 15:01

Well, there’s the flagrant disregard. I’ll rest my case. ISIS like Putin do not living in countries which are part of the ICC!

Package it whatever way you need to justify it for yourself. This is mass extermination on our watch with our tax money.

This is genocide in all of its definitions and opinions like yours support it and perpetrate it.

Not justifying anything. It is not genocide though it is a conflict and Hamas are responsible for the civilian deaths by hiding among them.

Gansy · 05/04/2025 15:10

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Gansy · 05/04/2025 15:10

Gloriia · 05/04/2025 15:09

Not justifying anything. It is not genocide though it is a conflict and Hamas are responsible for the civilian deaths by hiding among them.

No.

Mylegishangingoff · 05/04/2025 15:18

Clavinova · 05/04/2025 14:42

Mylegishangingoff
What is your point in posting that small detail

I think it's quite an important detail - is there a prior arrangement that emergency vehicles should travel with their internal lights on?

That's not the reason Israel gave for executing them no. An Israeli military spokesman, Lt. Col. Nadav Shoshani, said earlier this week that Israeli forces did not “randomly attack” an ambulance, but that several vehicles “were identified advancing suspiciously” without headlights or emergency signals toward Israeli troops, prompting them to shoot.

Clearly that wasn't true was it? So why did they kill 15 aid workers and bury them in a mass grave?

Sheworeblueve · 05/04/2025 15:18

agreed!

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 05/04/2025 15:42

@Gansy i think you have misunderstood my post. I think that what IDF has done is despicable.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 05/04/2025 15:45

@Clavinova i no longer trust anything that Israel says or does in this conflict. They have lost the moral high ground, then carried on by an enormous margin. I don’t blame all the Israel people, but any means, but their government are butchers.

Gansy · 05/04/2025 15:47

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 05/04/2025 15:42

@Gansy i think you have misunderstood my post. I think that what IDF has done is despicable.

My sincere apologies. I’ve asked MN to remove it.