To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

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We are back to hundreds of Gazans being killed each day after the so called ceasefire and over 50,000 now slaughtered, mostly women and children.
The bombing of hospitals, schools and 'safe zones' not being enough, they are now picking off paramedics. How much depravity is the world going to tolerate?

AIBU to suggest that the world leaders complicit in Netanyahu's genocide should all stand before the Hague?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

You need to understand the only way this ends is when only one of the ethinc groups remains in the area.

That has never been an acceptable solution since the 19th c. So why should we allow Israel to regress international society in such a way that ethnic cleansing by whoever has the power is ok again? Should Spain just kick out the Andorrans and take their country? Should China proceed with taking over Taiwan and boot the Taiwanese out? Should the US take over Greenland and send the Greenlanders to Denmark?

Israel will sort out the problem permanently one way or the other after the October 7th attacks. There is no way they are going to leave a threat like that on their borders.

I don't agree with it, nor am I advocating for it, just pointing out the reality of the situation.

Edit: Don't forget there were millions of ethnic Germans living all over Eastern Europe prior to WW2. Now there are none.

Except the global community aren’t using Hamas figures….

If you are in the UK I would be very careful posting that sort of thing.

You're actually saying that people should be killed for having an opinion?

‘Hamas 1988 Charter, Article 13:
Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.’

Not sure why the Muslims countries around aren't helping

This.. absolutely.

I recommend people watch the documentary Israel and the Palestinians: The Road to 7th October. It's even handed with a range of interviewees from all sides (largely men though which is telling) and shows that resolving the situation isn't just as uncomplicated as one side or the other somehow seeing sense. Hamas profit financially from keeping the conflict going, and Netanyahu benefits in ways which are obvious. It's three hours but in three parts and well worth investing the time if you want to gain greater understanding.

It bloody well is a genocide. Israel needs to STOP. Uk and other countries should stop supporting them.

Exactly.

100% this 👆

Helping how? They don’t care about Gaza and do not want Hamas in their countries. They absolutely will not participate in any war on behalf of Gaza (unless we’re talking Lebanon which is already effectively at war). And they very definitely don’t want to accept any Palestinians into their countries as they would inevitably cause violence and tension wherever they go. And no, I’m not in the slightest saying that all Palestinians are terrorists, but it would be almost impossible to relocate a sizeable proportion of the population without including a large number of militants and Hamas soldiers / supporters.

It’s a horrible situation, both Hamas and Netanyahu are setting impossible conditions, and no other countries are going to intervene. I can’t see any outcome other than Israel occupying Gaza and getting tied up in a decades long gorilla war. I really despair for the innocents and young children there 😢

You keep saying this but it doesn't make it true.

It's a genocide.

It’s not a genocide.

Haaretz (Israeli news) March 31

Ending the Gaza War Is Not on Netanyahu's Agenda Under Any Circumstances, Even to Return Hostages
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at Sunday's cabinet meeting that even if a deal is reached to free all hostages, ending the war is not on the agenda.

Copied from another poster on another thread.

It will not end tomorrow if the hostages are returned.

Smotrich announced they are in the process of setting up an " immigration directorate" to resettle (ethnically cleanse) all Palestinians.

And op you are correct the world has turned a blind eye to the atrocities and murder.

Would you settle for attempted ethnic cleansing? Is that a better way to phrase it?

Neither. It's a war. People die in wars, that's unfortunate but inevitable. And remember who started it.

That's what you call seizing large areas of Gaza and the West Bank and forcing the people who live there out?

And yes I realise Israel restarted the war when they refused to move onto phase 2 of the ceasefire which would have meant that the hostages were safe with their families weeks ago and Israel would have gone back to just killing Palestinians here and there rather than on the mass scale they have been doing. They wouldn't have been able to seize land in Gaza though so....

Well, yes. ‘Someone’ is Hamas, they could release the hostages

Telling the population they have to move or they will be killed isn't ethnic cleansing you say?? Oh really....

Absolutely Hamas have committed some horrendous atrocities on civilians and deserve their fate.

However I presume you have the same feelings for the IDF soldiers who have also carried out the most horrendous atrocities also.on civilians in the past 18 months. Children snipered in the head. Children who have lost limbs at they were shot at as they ran from a helicopter, 80 year old man used as a human shield and soldiers preventing an ambulance attending a 12 year old they had shot in the back.

Because if you have a problem with evil actions you surely have a problem with both sides.

Let close to a million children burn in retaliation? Is that what you mean?