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Conflict in the Middle East

To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

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BotanicalCake · 03/04/2025 21:34

We are back to hundreds of Gazans being killed each day after the so called ceasefire and over 50,000 now slaughtered, mostly women and children.
The bombing of hospitals, schools and 'safe zones' not being enough, they are now picking off paramedics. How much depravity is the world going to tolerate?

AIBU to suggest that the world leaders complicit in Netanyahu's genocide should all stand before the Hague?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

The Guardian view on Israel’s killing of paramedics: a new atrocity in an unending conflict | Editorial

Editorial: Impunity over Palestinian deaths in Gaza will lead to further cases like this massacre of rescue and healthcare workers

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

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Sorkh · 06/04/2025 18:33

ThisNattyTurtle · 06/04/2025 07:15

Israel is committing a genocide according to the UN, Amnesty international, Human Rights Watch, and Israeli professors of Holocaust and genocide studies Prof. Omer Bartov, Prof. Raz Segal, Prof. Amos Goldstein.

It's not "people are calling it" it's teams of legal experts.

I mean you can keep repeating yourself over and over with your same proven anti Jewish/Israel resources. But just because you repeat yourself it still doesn't make it true. I think everyone gets that you hate Israel. oops extra bold.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:35

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 18:30

No one is supporting murderers. Retaliating to the atrocities on Oct 7th was absolutely predictable. Blame hamas.

But then why don’t you blame Israel for starting the oppression in the first place? Don’t tell me you need to be schooled on the Nakba and the history of Palestine? According to your logic, wouldnt that mean Hamas is just “retaliating” like you said to the decades of oppression?

I’ve asked this about 3 times and you’ve ignored it every time, I wonder why 😅

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:36

Sorkh · 06/04/2025 18:33

I mean you can keep repeating yourself over and over with your same proven anti Jewish/Israel resources. But just because you repeat yourself it still doesn't make it true. I think everyone gets that you hate Israel. oops extra bold.

Jewish people can be against the Israeli oppression of Palestine. Nothing to do with being Jewish, everything to do with being a genocide sympathiser.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:38

Sorkh · 06/04/2025 18:33

I mean you can keep repeating yourself over and over with your same proven anti Jewish/Israel resources. But just because you repeat yourself it still doesn't make it true. I think everyone gets that you hate Israel. oops extra bold.

This is actually comical - UN, Amnesty, etc. are now anti Jewish because they oppose a genocide?

what on earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:41

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:21

2 of your comments have been deleted so far but I expect at least one other will be soon … keep going if you want 🤷🏼‍♀️

3 now … a hat trick

Sorkh · 06/04/2025 18:44

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:36

Jewish people can be against the Israeli oppression of Palestine. Nothing to do with being Jewish, everything to do with being a genocide sympathiser.

Why do you think there are such strict border controls between Gaza and Israel ( or Egypt?). It's because they are necessary to protect Israeli citizens from people ( including some children unfortunately) trying to "martyr" themselves and trying to take out as many innocent people with them as they can. That is the mindset that needs to be changed.

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 18:46

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:35

But then why don’t you blame Israel for starting the oppression in the first place? Don’t tell me you need to be schooled on the Nakba and the history of Palestine? According to your logic, wouldnt that mean Hamas is just “retaliating” like you said to the decades of oppression?

I’ve asked this about 3 times and you’ve ignored it every time, I wonder why 😅

We all know the history of palestine we've had it constantly on the tv for months.

Nothing justifies the mass abduction and murders on Oct 7th. Nothing.

Hamas are murderers and terrorists, until they are ousted nothing will change.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:46

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:41

3 now … a hat trick

Pro-Israeli messages were also deleted, does that get overlooked? Lol

also a deleted comment, does that negate the truth and facts? Keep ignoring them, you’re telling on yourself xx

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:50

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:41

3 now … a hat trick

3 deleted comments are a hat trick so what would you call the IDF’s 3 thousand instances of “accidental” murders, including those 15 medics in marked ambulances? :)

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:50

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:46

Pro-Israeli messages were also deleted, does that get overlooked? Lol

also a deleted comment, does that negate the truth and facts? Keep ignoring them, you’re telling on yourself xx

Anyone that spews personal attacks gets their posts deleted, nothing to do with political views just how they are expressed.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:56

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:50

Anyone that spews personal attacks gets their posts deleted, nothing to do with political views just how they are expressed.

I didn’t spew any personal attacks, that’s not the only reason comments get deleted.

Stop being silly, it’s so tiring. This must be how you “win” arguments - bickering and ignoring the facts. Please focus on the topic at hand.

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 19:00

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:56

I didn’t spew any personal attacks, that’s not the only reason comments get deleted.

Stop being silly, it’s so tiring. This must be how you “win” arguments - bickering and ignoring the facts. Please focus on the topic at hand.

What else could it have been? They have fairly strict criteria for what sort of posts get deleted. Advertising isn’t allowed, hate speech isn’t, personal attacks aren’t.

Just stop talking to me if you want to 🤷🏼‍♀️

devourfeculence · 06/04/2025 19:07

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 16:26

No, I didn’t and I’m sure anyone from Mumsnet’s moderation team can confirm that so please ask them to - I’ve got nothing to hide.

however, is that you admitting that Israel IS carrying out “mass killing and genocide”? 🥴 Because I’m glad we can agree on that. Israel is conducting terrorism and genocide.

Yeah you realy did, you said "anyone who justifies Israel's actions deserves to be given the same treatment they are doling - mass killings, genocide, unconditional".

And not sure where I admitted anything.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:13

Deflection

apologies if I get emotional when talking about the MURDER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE 🥴

again, keep deflecting from all the sensible non-deleted facts I have posted :)

I have actual friends - most of them mothers whose children have died at the hands of Israel - living in what is left of Gaza even now and yes it makes me extremely emotional that they are suffering whilst you deflect and ignore

keep Ignoring all the facts and instead focus on the deleted messages where I said shame on you 🤷🏻‍♀️

also yes people who deny a genocide and do not speak up for victims of indiscriminate violence don’t get sympathy from me but let me be polite here so as to avoid deletions :)

I would have choice words for the Nazis too, doesn’t make me a bad person :)

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:16

'apologies if I get emotional when talking about the MURDER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE'

Well yes and people get emotional about the murder of innocent people on Oct 7th. It doesn't help anyone for you to suggest pro Israel posters deserves mass killing, does it?

Elunajeya · 06/04/2025 19:18

apologies if I get emotional when talking about the MURDER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE 🥴

this is exactly how I feel when I think about October 7th.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:19

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Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:20

'Lmao, come off it 😆😆😆'

What on earth are you laughing at? None of this is funny.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:21

Also my point might have sounded crude written in fast, rough text but my point is below and I’ll detail it for your sake so you can get off the high horse:

someone who justifies the killing of innocent civilians should spend a day in Gaza. They should see the reality of a genocide in front of them, the effects it has on bloodlines, and THEN they can talk :)

Don’t be obtuse for the sake of it.

I am waiting for all the “I’m sad about Oct 7” people to tell me why they aren’t also sad or giving any attention the the events (basically decades of violent oppression and ethnic cleansing) that led to Oct 7?

or do Palestinian lives not matter?

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:22

'the fact is that Israel and the IDF are murdering thousands and thousands of innocent civilians on a daily basis, unchecked and unconditionally.'

The IDF are murdering thousands and thousands daily? Says who, hamas?

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:22

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:20

'Lmao, come off it 😆😆😆'

What on earth are you laughing at? None of this is funny.

Deflection. Very tired of your pointless responses, continue deflecting.

Don’t speak up for others - continue as you are - but don’t be surprised when there is nobody left to speak up for you when realities of worldwide oppression one day reach our own warm homes. Good riddance to your deflection.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:24

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:22

'the fact is that Israel and the IDF are murdering thousands and thousands of innocent civilians on a daily basis, unchecked and unconditionally.'

The IDF are murdering thousands and thousands daily? Says who, hamas?

Literally UN, UNRWA, Amnesty International, Oxfam, WHO, The ICC, educated professors and researchers, multiple countries and leaders… don’t tell me they’re all Hamas now? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:25

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:22

'the fact is that Israel and the IDF are murdering thousands and thousands of innocent civilians on a daily basis, unchecked and unconditionally.'

The IDF are murdering thousands and thousands daily? Says who, hamas?

Also I did not say “thousands are murdered every day” I said thousands of people are being murdered and this is happening on a b daily basis (ie unchecked murders and genocide) so please don’t use my rough grammar on a smartphone to deflect 😴

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:26

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:22

Deflection. Very tired of your pointless responses, continue deflecting.

Don’t speak up for others - continue as you are - but don’t be surprised when there is nobody left to speak up for you when realities of worldwide oppression one day reach our own warm homes. Good riddance to your deflection.

I was asking what you found so funny about this, that is not 'deflection'.

I'm frankly astounded that anyone would post 'lmao' about such a serious subject.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:26

Also it’s soo strange how when Israel says ‘whoops we killed 15 medics accidentally’ and this is outed as a lie that nobody blinks an eye but when we say yes Palestinians are being murdered in record amounts on a daily basis then suddenly it’s Hamas propaganda? Can lead a horse to water but…

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