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Conflict in the Middle East

To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

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BotanicalCake · 03/04/2025 21:34

We are back to hundreds of Gazans being killed each day after the so called ceasefire and over 50,000 now slaughtered, mostly women and children.
The bombing of hospitals, schools and 'safe zones' not being enough, they are now picking off paramedics. How much depravity is the world going to tolerate?

AIBU to suggest that the world leaders complicit in Netanyahu's genocide should all stand before the Hague?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

The Guardian view on Israel’s killing of paramedics: a new atrocity in an unending conflict | Editorial

Editorial: Impunity over Palestinian deaths in Gaza will lead to further cases like this massacre of rescue and healthcare workers

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

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Elunajeya · 06/04/2025 19:27

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:24

Literally UN, UNRWA, Amnesty International, Oxfam, WHO, The ICC, educated professors and researchers, multiple countries and leaders… don’t tell me they’re all Hamas now? 🤷🏻‍♀️

UNWRA definitely is..

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:28

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:26

I was asking what you found so funny about this, that is not 'deflection'.

I'm frankly astounded that anyone would post 'lmao' about such a serious subject.

I’m frankly astounded that you care about grammar and text-talk rather than a televised genocide but I guess it is what it is? For once in my life I am off work and the kids are busy so I have time to respond to this silly deflection otherwise it’s pointless engaging with someone who behaves as though they can’t read or process facts

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:28

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:25

Also I did not say “thousands are murdered every day” I said thousands of people are being murdered and this is happening on a b daily basis (ie unchecked murders and genocide) so please don’t use my rough grammar on a smartphone to deflect 😴

'Thousands and thousands are being murdered every day' is the same as 'thousands and thousands are being murdered on a daily basis' and neither is true.

Cris1976 · 06/04/2025 19:31

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 05/04/2025 18:59

You can also hear the shooters talking in Hebrew.
The investigation analysed the geo location and time of the video and it matches when the convoy went.
The vehicles shown in the video match the destroyed ones found. It also all matches satellite photos taken of the area and the vehicles that shows as they destroyed and vehicles and buried them and the bodies after dawn…so some was caught by satellite,
The voices of the paramedics have been idenfied as belonging to the bodies found.
The video was found on the mobile phone with the body of one of the paramedics killed (it was his phone) in the shallow grave that IDF admitted they had dug and bulldozed the bodies into.
IDF has already admitted to killing them. The video shows someone in the ranks lied about the vehicles not having their lights on, and not being clearly marked as rescue humanitarian and UN vehicles. They lied about the personnel not wearing their Red Cross/crescent uniforms, UN uniform and fire fighter uniforms, they lied about killing terrorists as part of the group,

The investigation also found that the area was declared an evacuation zone over an hour after they’d shot and killed everyone.

The investigation included US journalists - NY Times and Sky News- these are not Hamas propagandists or apologists.

The video also corroborates the one survivor of the convoy eye witness testimony.

Edited

Thanks for laying that clearing for those who will obviously always be in denial ‘…. Because Hamas’.

And to think the tragedy of Hind Rajab and the paramedics who came to save her were under not too dissimilar circumstance just over a year back now.

….. the most gut wrenching thing is that these are the few examples we hear of….not the very many that have no media coverage.

This will all be swept under the carpet, just as the remnants of Gaza will be. 😣

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:34

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:28

'Thousands and thousands are being murdered every day' is the same as 'thousands and thousands are being murdered on a daily basis' and neither is true.

I clarified what I meant and yes it is true.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:37

Anyone who denies that thousands of people have been killed (when the number is high up in the 10s of 1000s) is not even worth engaging with. Those are literal facts that you can review yourself online.

shalva · 06/04/2025 19:38

Ten rockets just fired into southern Israel from Gaza!! Tens of thousands of familes in the shelters or safe rooms.
Gaza supposedly has no water,gas .electricity or food but Hamas has money for Rockets,!
When will all you armchair anti semitic warriers realize that you know nothing of the true situation here.
Until the Hamas is driven from Gaza then there is no hope for anyone..

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:41

shalva · 06/04/2025 19:38

Ten rockets just fired into southern Israel from Gaza!! Tens of thousands of familes in the shelters or safe rooms.
Gaza supposedly has no water,gas .electricity or food but Hamas has money for Rockets,!
When will all you armchair anti semitic warriers realize that you know nothing of the true situation here.
Until the Hamas is driven from Gaza then there is no hope for anyone..

I have friends and family - most of them doctors - who have recently come back from Gaza (with incredible difficulty) after flying there to help give medical aid. Their amateur footage is clear as day along with the millions of footage flying around the internet of Israel committing war crimes.

The situation is dire and even these doctor friends have been denied access back into Gaza when trying to fly back for a second aid mission.

My own colleague at work held a beheaded child in his arms, beheaded from Israeli rockets and gunfire. This isn’t an imaginary tv show that you can ignore.

Netanyahu is a war criminal and Israel is committing a genocide on Palestinians. Simple facts.

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:42

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:37

Anyone who denies that thousands of people have been killed (when the number is high up in the 10s of 1000s) is not even worth engaging with. Those are literal facts that you can review yourself online.

You said 'the fact is that Israel and the IDF are murdering thousands and thousands of innocent civilians on a daily basis'. Just admit it's not correct.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:43

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:42

You said 'the fact is that Israel and the IDF are murdering thousands and thousands of innocent civilians on a daily basis'. Just admit it's not correct.

I clarified what I meant: Israel is committing murders on a daily basis. Thousands and thousands of Palestinians are dead.

apologies if you couldn’t understand it the first two times, here is your clarification again, which I hope you can accept and then move on to discussing the facts and calming down with the attempted gotchas.

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:45

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:41

I have friends and family - most of them doctors - who have recently come back from Gaza (with incredible difficulty) after flying there to help give medical aid. Their amateur footage is clear as day along with the millions of footage flying around the internet of Israel committing war crimes.

The situation is dire and even these doctor friends have been denied access back into Gaza when trying to fly back for a second aid mission.

My own colleague at work held a beheaded child in his arms, beheaded from Israeli rockets and gunfire. This isn’t an imaginary tv show that you can ignore.

Netanyahu is a war criminal and Israel is committing a genocide on Palestinians. Simple facts.

It is obviously horrific when children are killed by rocket fire.

Have you heard of the Bibas children who were murdered in cold blood?

JHound · 06/04/2025 19:46

I see Israel got caught lying.

Again.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:46

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:45

It is obviously horrific when children are killed by rocket fire.

Have you heard of the Bibas children who were murdered in cold blood?

Again, the Bibas family is more important than the other Palestinians?

I already said I am sad for their deaths but I do not blame the thousands of innocent Palestinians for their death.

I would not justify the death of a whole nation because 1 family was tragically murdered (and the details of their case still haven’t been made fully clear - along with the fact that many casualties of Oct 7 were a result of Israel’s own weapons).

Letmecallyouback · 06/04/2025 19:47

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:45

It is obviously horrific when children are killed by rocket fire.

Have you heard of the Bibas children who were murdered in cold blood?

Have you heard neither side has actually provided any evidence of how they died?

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:49

Letmecallyouback · 06/04/2025 19:47

Have you heard neither side has actually provided any evidence of how they died?

For some reason they keep deflecting the facts to say ‘but Hamas!!!!’

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:49

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:46

Again, the Bibas family is more important than the other Palestinians?

I already said I am sad for their deaths but I do not blame the thousands of innocent Palestinians for their death.

I would not justify the death of a whole nation because 1 family was tragically murdered (and the details of their case still haven’t been made fully clear - along with the fact that many casualties of Oct 7 were a result of Israel’s own weapons).

No but talking about your alleged Dr friends holding dead babies who had been killed by rocket fire needed a bit of perspective.

shalva · 06/04/2025 19:50

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:41

I have friends and family - most of them doctors - who have recently come back from Gaza (with incredible difficulty) after flying there to help give medical aid. Their amateur footage is clear as day along with the millions of footage flying around the internet of Israel committing war crimes.

The situation is dire and even these doctor friends have been denied access back into Gaza when trying to fly back for a second aid mission.

My own colleague at work held a beheaded child in his arms, beheaded from Israeli rockets and gunfire. This isn’t an imaginary tv show that you can ignore.

Netanyahu is a war criminal and Israel is committing a genocide on Palestinians. Simple facts.

No its not a tv show ,its War and and truly awful... Just watch the footage from the terrorists body cameras on Oct 7th to see the awful acts that were committed intentionaly.

Letmecallyouback · 06/04/2025 19:50

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:49

For some reason they keep deflecting the facts to say ‘but Hamas!!!!’

Well obviously that’s because of the IDF say so then it must be true.

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:51

shalva · 06/04/2025 19:50

No its not a tv show ,its War and and truly awful... Just watch the footage from the terrorists body cameras on Oct 7th to see the awful acts that were committed intentionaly.

You'll be told that's 'deflection'.

Letmecallyouback · 06/04/2025 19:53

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:51

You'll be told that's 'deflection'.

I suppose that’s understandable when the only substance of any opposing view seems to be ‘But what about October 7th’.

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:54

Letmecallyouback · 06/04/2025 19:53

I suppose that’s understandable when the only substance of any opposing view seems to be ‘But what about October 7th’.

The only substance? As if it was nothing. Oh never mind all those murders and rapes nothing to see here. Stop deflecting!

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:55

shalva · 06/04/2025 19:50

No its not a tv show ,its War and and truly awful... Just watch the footage from the terrorists body cameras on Oct 7th to see the awful acts that were committed intentionaly.

Once again for the 4th or 5th time: what about the decades of violent oppression before Oct 7 finally took place?

waiting eagerly for a non-deflective response!

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:58

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:55

Once again for the 4th or 5th time: what about the decades of violent oppression before Oct 7 finally took place?

waiting eagerly for a non-deflective response!

We all know the history of palestine, for the 4th or 5th time.

Nothing justifies a load of murderers going into Israel to commit all those atrocities. Nothing.

Didn't really help their cause did it?

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:59

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:54

The only substance? As if it was nothing. Oh never mind all those murders and rapes nothing to see here. Stop deflecting!

Yes, rapes and murders are only important and worth mentioning when Israelis are the victims?

and the fact that you are perpetuating the fake rape claims just shows how misinformed you are.

or were they all raped “with their eyes” too? IDF just got caught lying for the 100th time and we’re still pretending like Hamas was responsible for every Oct 7 death when Israel carried out its Hannibal directive? 🤡

Letmecallyouback · 06/04/2025 19:59

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:54

The only substance? As if it was nothing. Oh never mind all those murders and rapes nothing to see here. Stop deflecting!

Don’t forget the hundreds of babies Israel said were beheaded and put in ovens.