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Conflict in the Middle East

The IDF have now raided the Kamal Adwan hospital

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Whatsinanamehey · 25/10/2024 13:12

How is this being allowed to happen? How are the IDF getting away with the genocide and ethnic cleansing? In particular in the north of Gaza. They have bombed countless schools and hospitals and it is still happening!

From sky news
Gaza hospital 'raided' by Israeli military
Israel's military launched raided a hospital in north Gaza last night, Palestinian officials said.
Troops stormed Kamal Adwan Hospital and stationed forces outside it, according to medics.
Eid Sabbah, the hospital's nursing director, told the Reuters news agency that Israeli tanks opened fire on the hospital upon their arrival.
The hospital's oxygen stores were hit, he added, before troops raided the building and ordered staff and patients to leave.
There was no immediate comment from the Israeli military or World Health Organisation on the raid.

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Whatsinanamehey · 27/10/2024 13:42

Weonlyhavealoanofit · 27/10/2024 13:16

Do people ever concern themselves with how Hamas came into being and which state tacitly encouraged its development as means of undermining the secular PLO and Arafat? Do people have any concern that Israel has long ago abandoned all attempts to be a secular society in which Jews, Christians, Muslims and non Jewish atheists have equal rights? Do people worry that in light of Netanyahu’s refusal to concede a 2 state solution, his policy seeks a final solution to the Palestinian issue: they are to be removed completely, and the policy of a Greater Israel is to be implemented. Do people have any concern that for decades the Palestinians have been imprisoned in Israeli prisons and subject to cruel and arbitrary laws solely designed to suppress and subjugate Palestinian society? Do people wonder how millions live in decades old refugee camps, or in a prison called Gaza or under military law in the West Bank? Do people ask why nothing is done about ‘the occupied territories” and the poor people who are harassed and murdered out of their towns and villages? Do people wonder why the IDF has engaged in a policy of targeted shootings with high velocity rifles of Palestinian children thereby creating enormous numbers of amputees and paraplegics? Do people wonder why so many aid workers have been targeted in the recent pogrom against the people of Gaza? Do people ever wonder who funds this immense military machine or why Israel insists that any questioning of its policies are to be silenced by using the slur of racism? Oh and the old excuse ‘I didn’t know it was going on’ won’t wash. Gerald Kaufman MP was right about what was going on in Israel, sadly things have worsened considersbly in the last 10 years, its government shames mankind.

Some people know but they excuse it or worse condone it. Others are rightly shocked and in despair.

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Sheri99 · 28/10/2024 00:56

Israel is doing what it is doing because it is SICK and TIRED of terrorists. It isn't doing it for "genocide". Why do people NOT believe that Israel is just sick and tired of innocent people being USED. Terrorists USE young, easily influenced Palestinians, poor people, recruiting those for terrorist organizations. Terrorists USE Palestinians to HIDE behind. Terrorists take innocents and make hostages of them - OLD men and women, young innocent people! They do not fight in the open, terroists HIDE like roaches. WHY do people think Israel should keep letting them get away with this? WHY is there not more ANGER at terrorist organizations?? WE are not blind, not all of us.

Martymcfly24 · 28/10/2024 06:24

Sheri99 · 28/10/2024 00:56

Israel is doing what it is doing because it is SICK and TIRED of terrorists. It isn't doing it for "genocide". Why do people NOT believe that Israel is just sick and tired of innocent people being USED. Terrorists USE young, easily influenced Palestinians, poor people, recruiting those for terrorist organizations. Terrorists USE Palestinians to HIDE behind. Terrorists take innocents and make hostages of them - OLD men and women, young innocent people! They do not fight in the open, terroists HIDE like roaches. WHY do people think Israel should keep letting them get away with this? WHY is there not more ANGER at terrorist organizations?? WE are not blind, not all of us.

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Any relevant comment on the subject of the thread that the IDF is commiting a WAR CRIME by attacking a HOSPITAL..

stomachamelon · 28/10/2024 06:31

@Martymcfly24 thankfully you don't get to be the arbiter and judge, jury and executioner. @Sheri99 comment is quite clear!

@SharonEllis it's like a stuck record.

MissyB1 · 28/10/2024 07:03

Martymcfly24 · 28/10/2024 06:24

Any relevant comment on the subject of the thread that the IDF is commiting a WAR CRIME by attacking a HOSPITAL..

Some posters don't consider bombing hospitals, schools, orphanages etc as war crimes unbelievably! They think it's totally justified "because Hamas". They will argue until blue in the face why it's justifiable. Of course it would be a different matter if it were a hospital that their family member was in.....

Whatsinanamehey · 28/10/2024 07:18

They just prefer to ignore that and all other Israeli atrocities too, they hate to admit that Israel is committing a genocide. I don't think they would be singing the same tune if the situation was reversed.

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Auvergne63 · 28/10/2024 07:20

Sheri99 · 28/10/2024 00:56

Israel is doing what it is doing because it is SICK and TIRED of terrorists. It isn't doing it for "genocide". Why do people NOT believe that Israel is just sick and tired of innocent people being USED. Terrorists USE young, easily influenced Palestinians, poor people, recruiting those for terrorist organizations. Terrorists USE Palestinians to HIDE behind. Terrorists take innocents and make hostages of them - OLD men and women, young innocent people! They do not fight in the open, terroists HIDE like roaches. WHY do people think Israel should keep letting them get away with this? WHY is there not more ANGER at terrorist organizations?? WE are not blind, not all of us.

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I thought I heard it all but now the Israeli government is deliberately murdering ALL Palestinians on humanitarian grounds!

Martymcfly24 · 28/10/2024 07:20

stomachamelon · 28/10/2024 06:31

@Martymcfly24 thankfully you don't get to be the arbiter and judge, jury and executioner. @Sheri99 comment is quite clear!

@SharonEllis it's like a stuck record.

It's a discussion?? I asked a question . Thankfully you don't get to be in charge of the thread @Sheri99 has made her position quite clear on the wrongdoing of the TERRORISTS . I was just wondering how they felt about the attacking of a hospital (one of only 3 that are operational in the area)and the wanton destruction of the hospital or maybe the pediatrician at the hospital who walked his young sons body to a nearby cemetery after the attack.

Daftasabroom · 28/10/2024 07:41

stomachamelon · 28/10/2024 06:31

@Martymcfly24 thankfully you don't get to be the arbiter and judge, jury and executioner. @Sheri99 comment is quite clear!

@SharonEllis it's like a stuck record.

Sadly there are too many Israeli apologists and Israelis who are indeed judge, jury and executioner for 43,000 Palestinians.

Icedlatteplease · 28/10/2024 08:05

The west needs a friendly state in the middle east. When there's is a war the most likely way for it actually to end is the complete decimation of one side by the other.

So the west will look the other way and Israel will do what it sees it needs to do to survive.

We tend to romanticise war and think it can be controlled by laws. War was ever conducted this way.

Scirocco · 28/10/2024 08:13

Sheri99 · 28/10/2024 00:56

Israel is doing what it is doing because it is SICK and TIRED of terrorists. It isn't doing it for "genocide". Why do people NOT believe that Israel is just sick and tired of innocent people being USED. Terrorists USE young, easily influenced Palestinians, poor people, recruiting those for terrorist organizations. Terrorists USE Palestinians to HIDE behind. Terrorists take innocents and make hostages of them - OLD men and women, young innocent people! They do not fight in the open, terroists HIDE like roaches. WHY do people think Israel should keep letting them get away with this? WHY is there not more ANGER at terrorist organizations?? WE are not blind, not all of us.

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Intentionally targeting, killing and causing devastating injuries and trauma to innocent civilians when alternative options exist doesn't seem a very reasonable response to being sick and tired of terrorists, though. And it's not like people are doing these things reluctantly or with regret - people are enjoying doing it and enjoying watching it.

Israel is also using innocent civilians. As target practice.

Sheri99 · 28/10/2024 15:15

Scirocco · 28/10/2024 08:13

Intentionally targeting, killing and causing devastating injuries and trauma to innocent civilians when alternative options exist doesn't seem a very reasonable response to being sick and tired of terrorists, though. And it's not like people are doing these things reluctantly or with regret - people are enjoying doing it and enjoying watching it.

Israel is also using innocent civilians. As target practice.

And THIS is what IRAN does and IRAN supports the terrorists, and IS a country that supports the arrest of this PRISONER in IRAN.

"The Nobel Peace Prize for 2023 was awarded to Narges Mohammadi for her fight against the oppression of women in Iran and her fight to promote human rights and freedom for all.
Narges Mohammadi © Reihane Taravati
Full name: Narges Mohammadi
Born: 21 April 1972, Zanjan, Iran
Date awarded: 6 October 2023
Women’s rights advocate and freedom fighter
For many years, Narges Mohammadi has fought against the systematic discrimination and oppression of women in Iran. She is at the forefront of acourageous fight for human rights, freedom, and democracy. As early as the 1990s, Mohammadi began her fight for equality and women’s rights. In 2003 she became involved with the Defenders of Human Rights Center in Tehran, an organisation founded by Nobel Peace Prize laureate Shirin Ebadi. Mohammadi has assisted incarcerated activists and their families. She has been active in campaigning against the death penalty and against the regime’s systematic use of torture and sexualised violence in Iranian prisons.
This year’s peace prize also recognises the hundreds of thousands of people who, in the preceding year, have demonstrated against the theocratic regime’s policies of discrimination and oppression against women.

The Nobel Peace Prize 2003

The Nobel Peace Prize 2003 was awarded to Shirin Ebadi "for her efforts for democracy and human rights. She has focused especially on the struggle for the rights of women and children"

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2003/ebadi/facts/

Sheri99 · 28/10/2024 15:20

FYI: ISRAEL does NOT "systemically" TARGET innocents, the unarmed. If cowardly terrorist organizations did not hide behind and use civilian based shields, civilian casualties would be far less.

Sheri99 · 28/10/2024 15:30

I find it incredible that on a site that uses the word "Mum" that support is not stronger for educating on discrimination and oppression of women rights.

Women need to realize life is not all cookies and cream: there is suffering, pain, sorrow that is unavoidable because of evil regimes, and war. It is very historically complex. Women are emotionally equipped (genetically wired if you will) to nurture and support life growth, so terrorists and newspapers use that lovely quality of women in order to influence women to feel sorrow, and human pain stronger. We as women, need to realize this and meter their tendency to be influenced by photos/stories, etc of suffering peoples.

It is easier to think: "Oh, here is the BAD guy just stop them"; rather than put the focus on fixing the long term problem: terroristic, women oppressing countries such as Iran. THIS is what Israel is about: stopping oppressive, religious law terrorist supporters.

Influencing soft women's hearts is a tactic terrorists use. Women must think long term not make judgements by emotionally upsetting news and images.

Religious law: The state's legal system is based on religious law."

This is how Iran's govt is ruled.
God never intended for any people to be ruled by religious law.

A religious law based country, that oppresses women is even worse.

Iran is evil, terrorists are evil because they use beheadings, rape; they are "snakes" who use innocents. Israel, while not perfect, is not evil.

username1478 · 28/10/2024 15:33

And THIS is what IRAN does and IRAN supports the terrorists, and IS a country that supports the arrest of this PRISONER in IRAN.

Look over there! A squirrel.

Whatsinanamehey · 28/10/2024 15:40

I sense a bot

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Sheri99 · 28/10/2024 15:41

username1478 · 28/10/2024 15:33

And THIS is what IRAN does and IRAN supports the terrorists, and IS a country that supports the arrest of this PRISONER in IRAN.

Look over there! A squirrel.

I apologize, I do not intend to divert; only to educate where I see misunderstanding of evil and good.

username1478 · 28/10/2024 15:44

Sheri99 · 28/10/2024 15:41

I apologize, I do not intend to divert; only to educate where I see misunderstanding of evil and good.

No problem at all. You're obviously very passionate about supporting Israel and the rule of law.

Whatsinanamehey · 28/10/2024 15:44

Influencing soft women's hearts is a tactic terrorists use. Women must think long term not make judgements by emotionally upsetting news and images.

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EasterIssland · 28/10/2024 15:45

Sheri99 · 28/10/2024 15:30

I find it incredible that on a site that uses the word "Mum" that support is not stronger for educating on discrimination and oppression of women rights.

Women need to realize life is not all cookies and cream: there is suffering, pain, sorrow that is unavoidable because of evil regimes, and war. It is very historically complex. Women are emotionally equipped (genetically wired if you will) to nurture and support life growth, so terrorists and newspapers use that lovely quality of women in order to influence women to feel sorrow, and human pain stronger. We as women, need to realize this and meter their tendency to be influenced by photos/stories, etc of suffering peoples.

It is easier to think: "Oh, here is the BAD guy just stop them"; rather than put the focus on fixing the long term problem: terroristic, women oppressing countries such as Iran. THIS is what Israel is about: stopping oppressive, religious law terrorist supporters.

Influencing soft women's hearts is a tactic terrorists use. Women must think long term not make judgements by emotionally upsetting news and images.

Religious law: The state's legal system is based on religious law."

This is how Iran's govt is ruled.
God never intended for any people to be ruled by religious law.

A religious law based country, that oppresses women is even worse.

Iran is evil, terrorists are evil because they use beheadings, rape; they are "snakes" who use innocents. Israel, while not perfect, is not evil.

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More women and children have been killed in Gaza by the Israeli military over the past year than the equivalent period of any other conflict over the past two decades

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it’s not only an Iran problem. Israel’s government doesn’t care about women either

Sheri99 · 28/10/2024 15:45

Daftasabroom · 28/10/2024 07:41

Sadly there are too many Israeli apologists and Israelis who are indeed judge, jury and executioner for 43,000 Palestinians.

You wish it could be so simple. "Apologist" is just another trendy word and label. There is no need to apologize for any country, anywhere, that understands evil is what oppresses all people.

Lalaloveya · 28/10/2024 16:03

I'm sure the women and children who were turfed out of the hospital, including the children who reportedly died in the intensive care unit as a result, would care deeply about these missives.

Dulra · 28/10/2024 16:20

Whatsinanamehey · 28/10/2024 15:44

Influencing soft women's hearts is a tactic terrorists use. Women must think long term not make judgements by emotionally upsetting news and images.

🙄

Yes let's shout about women's rights by patronising women

JaneJeffer · 28/10/2024 17:28

As far as I'm concerned Israel is evil too. How can anyone look at what they're doing and not think so?

1234Kitty · 28/10/2024 18:45

Whatsinanamehey · 28/10/2024 15:40

I sense a bot

Yup, the spelling and use of certain words.

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