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Conflict in the Middle East

If all Palestinians leave Gaza, are Israel then allowed to claim the land?

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TERFCat · 19/05/2024 08:28

Sorry, for the simplicity of what I'm saying. I'm new to this and trying to learn. Smile

From what I've seen, many Palestinians in Gaza are being moved to camps elsewhere. Sadly, many have been killed too.

The photos of the area suggest that much of Gaza is ruined and will need to be re-built.

If hypothetically all Palestinians were moved elsewhere, would Israel then be able to "claim" Gaza? Would the UN etc be allowed to stop them? Would the West Bank be able to claim it?

Any insight appreciated?

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LauraNorda · 25/05/2024 18:37

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Livelovebehappy · 25/05/2024 18:44

Auvergne63 · 25/05/2024 17:14

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. I hope it's the former.

And which part of what i’ve said isn’t true? All of what I’ve said is factual.

SharonEllis · 25/05/2024 18:50

What is the point of this? Its not going to happen.

gingergran · 25/05/2024 18:52

The Palestinians haven’t left Gaza so your question makes no sense

Auvergne63 · 25/05/2024 19:04

Livelovebehappy · 25/05/2024 18:44

And which part of what i’ve said isn’t true? All of what I’ve said is factual.

In order to say it is factual, you need to provide evidence that it is.; otherwise, it's your opinion.

OneGreenPlayer · 25/05/2024 19:47

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Bumblebee907 · 25/05/2024 21:36

Israel ❤️

Superfoodie123 · 25/05/2024 21:43

LauraNorda · 19/05/2024 08:51

Israel left Gaza completely in 2005. Removed by force all Jewish settlers and even took all the Jewish graves.

Israel is not interested in Gaza.

Lol. How are people this deluded/dumb

mactire · 25/05/2024 21:48

I believe it’s been their plan all along tbh. Since October, we’ve been seeing the process drastically sped up. And after all, no one has stepped in to protect Palestinians thus far, so of course Israel will feel they can snatch what they want.

whatsitcalledwhen · 25/05/2024 21:54

@LauraNorda

They just want victimhood.

Yeah I bet the tens of thousands of people killed so far, including children, really enjoyed claiming victimhood before their deaths...

It's perfectly possibly to condemn the massacre of 7/10 and the campaign that has killed tens of thousands of civilians in Palestine since.

Do you condemn both, or only condemn the horrific slaughtering of Israelis on 7/10. Surely if you condemn that, you condemn what's happening in Palestine too?

Livelovebehappy · 25/05/2024 22:19

Auvergne63 · 25/05/2024 19:04

In order to say it is factual, you need to provide evidence that it is.; otherwise, it's your opinion.

Erm, so you are denying that Hamas raped and murdered Israeli festival goers on 7the October? Then enlighten me. What did they do? Join them for a dance and some fast food? I’m all ears……

Kindatired · 25/05/2024 23:36

No,@whatsitcalledwhen is condemning both. She’s waiting for you to condemn the untargetted slaughter of innocent civilians. 2% of the children of Gaza have been killled and a further 6% have suffered catastrophic life altering injuries- amputation, brain damage , blindness, not something that needs a bandaid. 20,000 children have been orphaned.

But maybe you think Israeli the lives of Palastinian children are worth less than Israeli children or that they deserve to suffer because of the actions of Hamas?

OneGreenPlayer · 26/05/2024 00:15

Livelovebehappy · 25/05/2024 22:19

Erm, so you are denying that Hamas raped and murdered Israeli festival goers on 7the October? Then enlighten me. What did they do? Join them for a dance and some fast food? I’m all ears……

No actual evidence has been provided. Israel is refusing to allow journalists in to report. The irony of you saying fast food. The party was held a few feet away from the Palestinians locked in their concentration camp while Israelis enjoy whatever food they want while they party. When they retaliate out of frustration they are called terrorists. Illegal settlers are still stopping them getting food. Why did the IOF take so long getting to the party when they were attacked? Very strange events that day

SharonEllis · 26/05/2024 07:20

OneGreenPlayer · 26/05/2024 00:15

No actual evidence has been provided. Israel is refusing to allow journalists in to report. The irony of you saying fast food. The party was held a few feet away from the Palestinians locked in their concentration camp while Israelis enjoy whatever food they want while they party. When they retaliate out of frustration they are called terrorists. Illegal settlers are still stopping them getting food. Why did the IOF take so long getting to the party when they were attacked? Very strange events that day

We have camera footage from the rapists and murderers themselves as they were conducting their massacre, as well as footage & reporting of the aftermath at the sites,the bodies of victims and the testimony of witnesses. What is your purpose in spreading such lies?

Livelovebehappy · 26/05/2024 08:11

OneGreenPlayer · 26/05/2024 00:15

No actual evidence has been provided. Israel is refusing to allow journalists in to report. The irony of you saying fast food. The party was held a few feet away from the Palestinians locked in their concentration camp while Israelis enjoy whatever food they want while they party. When they retaliate out of frustration they are called terrorists. Illegal settlers are still stopping them getting food. Why did the IOF take so long getting to the party when they were attacked? Very strange events that day

Another delusional terrorist apologiser. There is enough evidence out there if you’d care to look, of what actually happened on 7th October. But it suits your narrative to stick your fingers in your ears and close your eyes, because you don’t want to accept the barbaric acts carried out by your friends Hamas that day. And if we are talking proof, show me evidence apart from the bleatings of the pro Palestinian lobby (who have their own agenda here) that these concentration camps exist, and that innocent people are held there. Just like the wildly different figures put out there - 1000 people, then 5000 people, then 10000. Lies, lies, lies I’m afraid.

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 08:30

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OneGreenPlayer · 26/05/2024 08:31

Livelovebehappy · 26/05/2024 08:11

Another delusional terrorist apologiser. There is enough evidence out there if you’d care to look, of what actually happened on 7th October. But it suits your narrative to stick your fingers in your ears and close your eyes, because you don’t want to accept the barbaric acts carried out by your friends Hamas that day. And if we are talking proof, show me evidence apart from the bleatings of the pro Palestinian lobby (who have their own agenda here) that these concentration camps exist, and that innocent people are held there. Just like the wildly different figures put out there - 1000 people, then 5000 people, then 10000. Lies, lies, lies I’m afraid.

The facts still remain that the un and other countries were not provided with sufficient evidence. Atrocities by the IOF were being carried out daily before oct 7th. That day was a retaliation. A group of people deliberately set up a party out side of the concentration camp making food knowing that hungry children inside could smell it.
if there are lies as you say why are journalists being refused entry? Why is the IOF deliberately targeting journalists to murder them? People are not delusional anymore they can see what the IOF are doing. Ex IOF soldiers have provided photographs of concentration camps where prisoners are naked and chained to beds. The list is endless. People of Gaza cannot freely leave. The are trapped inside Gaza and being indiscriminately bombed. The charity workers vehicle which was clearly labelled was deliberately targeted. The list goes on.
this is nothing to do with Hamas but the innocent children who are suffering and being murdered

Livelovebehappy · 26/05/2024 08:39

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Full of hate to tell it how it is? The events on October 7th happened. If Hamas truly wanted to retaliate here, they would have targeted government buildings or the Israeli military, not some young festival goers who have no agenda in any of this, and who maybe even had some sympathy with the Palestinians. So no, retaliation was not against the Israeli military, but was a horrible opportunity Hamas took to rape and murder easy targets.

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ohthejoys21 · 26/05/2024 08:42

LauraNorda · 19/05/2024 08:51

Israel left Gaza completely in 2005. Removed by force all Jewish settlers and even took all the Jewish graves.

Israel is not interested in Gaza.

This. Israel doesn't want the land, it wants to ensure murderous terrorists aren't able to get back in and drag its citizens back to be raped and tortured again, and to stop the constant shelling into its country.

Livelovebehappy · 26/05/2024 08:43

OneGreenPlayer · 26/05/2024 08:31

The facts still remain that the un and other countries were not provided with sufficient evidence. Atrocities by the IOF were being carried out daily before oct 7th. That day was a retaliation. A group of people deliberately set up a party out side of the concentration camp making food knowing that hungry children inside could smell it.
if there are lies as you say why are journalists being refused entry? Why is the IOF deliberately targeting journalists to murder them? People are not delusional anymore they can see what the IOF are doing. Ex IOF soldiers have provided photographs of concentration camps where prisoners are naked and chained to beds. The list is endless. People of Gaza cannot freely leave. The are trapped inside Gaza and being indiscriminately bombed. The charity workers vehicle which was clearly labelled was deliberately targeted. The list goes on.
this is nothing to do with Hamas but the innocent children who are suffering and being murdered

It is everything to do with Hamas. The situation would not he as it is without October 7th, and to suggest otherwise is delusional. Are there naked photos of chained up pictures out there? Hamas supporters are quick to demand proof but do you have proof, or is it just something you have read on the pro Palestinian news feeds? A ceasefire discussion is very possible, but Hamas are refusing to release the hostages. Why is this do you think?

Livelovebehappy · 26/05/2024 08:45

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And? All you’ve listed is factual.

Auvergne63 · 26/05/2024 08:46

Livelovebehappy · 25/05/2024 22:19

Erm, so you are denying that Hamas raped and murdered Israeli festival goers on 7the October? Then enlighten me. What did they do? Join them for a dance and some fast food? I’m all ears……

I asked you to provide evidence to your statement, and I quote, "And hopefully the palestines would then realise that it was Hamas who handed it to Israel on a plate."
But instead you deflect this by accusing me of denying what happened on 07/10.
You would have to be blind to deny it. I have my eyes wide opened to the horrors inflected on that day by Hamas and to the daily horrors that the Israeli government are bringing on the Palestinians. Both are revolting. Both should be condemned. Don't you agree?
Still waiting for that evidence. It's going to be a long wait.

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