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Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians

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Finallyloggedin · 21/11/2023 13:11

It’s just heartbreaking. I’ve seen videos on twitter that are beyond anything I can even begin to describe. Palestinians are being murdered in their thousands and the western media is largely pretending it’s not happening.

The average age of the people who have been killed in Gaza is FIVE years old.

The UK media are not showing how the Israeli government is openly talking about, and cheerleading genocide now. Israeli government speaks about Palestinians as if they are not humans. They are saying women are targets as they can have babies. I’ve just read how, since October 7th they have taken over 5,000 Palestinians from the West Bank and tortured them. They were already routinely arresting Palestinians and taking them away from their family with no reason and no but this is not being adequately reported.

Please, please visit sites such as 972 magazine and declassified uk. The BBC, etc, unfortunately aren’t reporting the extent to what is going on.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-and-its-allies-are-repurposing-the-goals-and-lies-of-1948-in-gaza-in-2023/

Israel and its allies are repurposing the goals and lies of 1948 – in Gaza in 2023

Israel is openly carrying out ethnic cleansing inside Gaza, driving Palestinians outside their homeland as happened in 1948. And yet, just as during the first “Nakba”, Israel's lies and deceptions dominate the West’s media and political narrative.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-and-its-allies-are-repurposing-the-goals-and-lies-of-1948-in-gaza-in-2023/

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Itsaharddlife · 26/11/2023 19:39

roarrfeckingroar · 26/11/2023 19:26

You clearly have an agenda.

This is not genocide. Most of the "facts" you're coming out with are bullshit, unproven, pure Hamas propaganda or all of the above.

This could be stopped by Hamas tomorrow by releasing the hostages and handing over those responsible for the terrorist atrocities of 7 October.

Anyone that thinks this will end if Hamas surrender and release all hostages is just plain naive at this point. I think its been made very clear that they consider all Palestinians complicit in althe oct 7 attack .
If hamas do surrender (of course they won't) then it will just be a reason for them to occupy Gaza. Which will only result in a vicious cycle of oppression and counter attacks. As it has been for several decades now.

Stomacharmeleon · 26/11/2023 20:50

That charity is equally condemning of Hamas and using children as human shields.

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians
Dinkydaisy1 · 26/11/2023 21:42

Maybe instead of people directing their anger at mumsnetters using words like genocide that offend them... Direct their anger at govts reprehensible actions like actual genocide instead?

Itsaharddlife · 26/11/2023 21:46

Dinkydaisy1 · 26/11/2023 21:42

Maybe instead of people directing their anger at mumsnetters using words like genocide that offend them... Direct their anger at govts reprehensible actions like actual genocide instead?

Isn't that what the pro palestine marches are for? To protest the governments support for atrocities by Israel.

But then again posters here don't like that either. They just want everyone to shut up otherwise we're all labeled antisemtic

Dinkydaisy1 · 26/11/2023 22:02

Itsaharddlife · 26/11/2023 21:46

Isn't that what the pro palestine marches are for? To protest the governments support for atrocities by Israel.

But then again posters here don't like that either. They just want everyone to shut up otherwise we're all labeled antisemtic

Yup. They are directing their anger at people using the word genocide rather than thinking of the fact that there is an actual genocide going on - bigger than the previous nakba's - under our watch and live streamed by social media. Anyone who says so otherwise is an anti semitic non-thinker

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GreekDogRescue · 01/12/2023 19:15

The anti Semitism on this thread is horrifying.Funny how not one of the posters here criticising Israel raised any objections when China murdered millions of Uighur Muslims. I wonder why that might be.

beigecartoon · 01/12/2023 19:22

@GreekDogRescue derailing is against MN rules. please feel free to start a thread about the Uighur if you'd like to protest it, I am sure others will join in.

This thread is about Palestine, where we are protesting about the awful situation, bombing, collective punishment and genocide.

Feel free to report any anti-semitic posts and MN will delete them.

Roste · 01/12/2023 19:23

I don’t understand why people are raising the issue of persecution elsewhere to attack those highlighting the genocide being carried out in occupied Palestine. Is it supposed to be some kind of gotcha? Very odd.

beigecartoon · 01/12/2023 19:24

@Roste it's a distraction technique, an attempt to smear those speaking out and a form of whataboutery. Basically a way of trying to shut down those speaking out.

EasterIssland · 01/12/2023 19:26

Roste · 01/12/2023 19:23

I don’t understand why people are raising the issue of persecution elsewhere to attack those highlighting the genocide being carried out in occupied Palestine. Is it supposed to be some kind of gotcha? Very odd.

It’s also against the mn guidelines to derail the threads so the comments can be reported and removed

GreekDogRescue · 01/12/2023 19:34

beigecartoon · 01/12/2023 19:24

@Roste it's a distraction technique, an attempt to smear those speaking out and a form of whataboutery. Basically a way of trying to shut down those speaking out.

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It’s not a ‘distraction technique’.
It is an honest question as to why there are scores of threads about Israel and not one about any other genocide going on in the world.
The focus on Israel is, many feel, deeply anti semitic.
Feel free to report my comment, but this is just indicative of the racist rhetoric on so many of these threads.
Nobody is seeking to shut anyone down, simply to have a debate and share views.
Surely the purpose of this forum.

beigecartoon · 01/12/2023 19:42

@GreekDogRescue maybe public opinion, on MN, at the moment, is extra horrified at what Israeli govt are doing in Gaza, than focussed elsewhere, which is why there are more threads about this?

It is going on right now, so extra urgent, and we are trying to raise awareness. Plus, our govt is supporting Israel's collective punishment and bombing campaign. Plus, we're all deeply aware of the oppression and apartheid state situation and really upset by it. Plus thousands of children are being killed, people have next to no food or water. Plus, there are plenty of anti-Hamas threads / opposite opinion threads, just have a look on the board. We don't have anything personal against Jewish people nor do we support Hamas. But we happen to feel the need to speak out against Israeli government behaviour. This one has been done to death, by the way, on most threads. Our reasons for speaking out have not changed.

As I said feel free to report any antisemitic posts to MN, there is a report button you can use.

I saw this posted on another thread, it might help you understand why we are posting (NB in posting it I am not implying you personally want to kill children, it is a comment on the public discourse in general).

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0UFehruRQX/

Roste · 01/12/2023 19:43

To try and shut us down? I don’t think I will ever shut up about this after what I have witnessed since October. Too many Palestinians have been needlessly silenced already, the least the rest of us can do is speak up in their behalf at any opportunity.

EasterIssland · 01/12/2023 19:46

GreekDogRescue · 01/12/2023 19:34

It’s not a ‘distraction technique’.
It is an honest question as to why there are scores of threads about Israel and not one about any other genocide going on in the world.
The focus on Israel is, many feel, deeply anti semitic.
Feel free to report my comment, but this is just indicative of the racist rhetoric on so many of these threads.
Nobody is seeking to shut anyone down, simply to have a debate and share views.
Surely the purpose of this forum.

It’s whataboutery And posters are fed up of being told they’re antisemic because they’re talking about Palestine. I could say the same about Israel. Why so many threads about what is going on in Israel and not any about Congo ? Isn’t that a bit Islamophobic? If you want to talk about other conflicts in the world then start your thread but please don’t enter in a thread calling names when the title is clearly “Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians”.

ChickHenLittle · 01/12/2023 20:26

A QR code?! Either they aren't smart enough to realise many Gazans won't have phones with any power, or it was done on purpose and they knew full well.
They are trying to justify their genocide with "but we told them where we were going to attack!" Pure evil.

Chaitales · 01/12/2023 21:15

Re: antisemitism

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians
EasterIssland · 01/12/2023 21:16

The qr code

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians
Stomacharmeleon · 01/12/2023 21:19

@ChickHenLittle what those Gazan's?

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians
ChickHenLittle · 02/12/2023 09:54

Stomacharmeleon · 01/12/2023 21:19

@ChickHenLittle what those Gazan's?

You really think one photo represents every Gazan? I don't think there's much point me saying more if so.

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