Are you (a) tired of ttc (b) have sore ladybits from SWIing ! If this sounds like you then hop aboard.

[Icedlemonmuffin]

Hi have made a new batch of cock tail muffins for those of us who have been trying for along time and

(a) are struggling to get excited by the sight of a cockadoodle running towards every other day of our fertile days !!

(b)have sore ladybits from all the SWIing we have been doing the past few months

and

(c) who just want to moan,groan and bitch how boring it can all get!

All funny sperm killing stories welcome I need a laugh and to know I'm not the only one going insane ttc

So hop aboard and you to can be a bus whore like me !!!!!!!!

4.40pm. Thing is that had tears on Friday not too tearful today. Oh well sure I can get summon some up from somewhere. I might have spent the whole of the morning googling implantation bleeds.... Oh well looks like another one might bite the dust.

It ain't over til the fat witch sings Louja! Good luck at the docs. X

Still no wicked witch. Went to doctors and have been referred for day 21 bloods and TH for semen analysis. So wheels are in motion.

Hi just thought I would post while I've got my legs in the air for the next half hour

Really hope it works this month really peeed off with ttfc it's not fun anymore, oh to be young when you had sex because you really really wanted too and you really couldn't wait to.(wish I'd took more advantage of my youth)

Hey Lou glad things are moving for you. Always makes me feel better if I feel things are happening (yes, my name is Poo and I'm a control freak).

Well I've just got in from work, trying to make meself feel 'in the mood' as I got the ewcm today, and found TG on the sofa rolling a fat one. So no doubt he will smoke that, fall asleep and that will be another month gone. Bloody fecking bastarding men!

Keep those legs up Iced - get your arse in the air and do some cycling!

I feel a bit better that things are moving. Though not too sure what the internal that the GP will be doing after I have had my bloods done is for.... Surely a scan would be more pleasant. At least its a female GP.

Iced I know I have missed you but you could do some of those bum lift things you could tone your abs whilst you are up there.

Pol what can I expect from the acupuncturist??

Morning all

Besta luck Lou all round xx

Legs in the air?!?!? Surely enough of that DURING let alone AFTER? Ahem.

We have ewcm here, and dh has returned from his parentses house, so some exhausting 'yes of course I'm in the mood darling's coming up. Oh well

Cake?

Lou I read or post too tired and fed up to do anything else!

Unbuffy I usually put a pillow under bum but read somewhere that putting legs in the air (well I lie on bed and rest them against wall now have marks on wall) helps the lucky sperm to reach its correct destination. I will try anything (well nearly anyting)to get
pregnant.

Oh and used pre seed for the first time-weird!!

What was the pre-seed like? I wanna know what was weird about it.

Lou the applicator and sound was an odd experience dh was laughing from the noise,and it felt like I had jelly inbetween my legs.

On the positive side it was a very smooth ride.

Morning all - we used preseed last night too - I think TG thought it was a bit much, maybe i'll use a bit less next time, but as Iced said it certainly makes it a smoother ride!

My god I am shattered today, I couldn't sleep last night after the SWI (the rolling of the fat one didn't put him off, hoorah!). Today, Boo is at pre-school, and I decided to take my acupuncturists advice and do some exercise to increase bloodflow and release blockages of stagnant energy. So I got my bike and managed a mile and a half before my thighs gave out How pathetic is that!

Lou I think for your first appointment you can expect to be there at least an hour, if not an hour and a half if you have some treatment. The most part of it will be taken up with lots of note taking and questions about your general health, menstrual cycles, previous pregnancies etc, everything really. He/she will take your pulse on both wrists, in several places, and look at your tongue. I didn't know how much your mouth could say about you without you uttering a word! And then get to the good bit - I'd wear loose trousers and top as they might want to get to your back or stomoach and legs, maybe just above the knee. They usually leave the needles in for around 20 mins so you get to lie back and relax. They may recommend treatment once a week for 4 or 6 weeks, and then once a month.

Well that was waffly... Cake anyone? That cycling has increased my appetite!

I might go to the gym this afternoon as Adi is at nursery - long story. Went to an exercise class yesterday too. Then getting my hair cut so am looking forward to that too.

Sounds like the acupuncturist is more interested in you than my doctor was in me. Though can't complain as am now in the system. Hopefully the acupuncture and hypno will help. Am a bit annoyed I had spotting for 4 days prior to period. No wonder I am not pregnant. I was doing so well getting 11 dpo with no spotting. That is giving the darn baby a chance.

Might buy some pre-seed this month. Have tried everything else. Did you get the single applicators?

Yes, I got the single applicator... think I better get some more! Although I'm sure someone on MN mentioned Zestica being cheaper, but the same as pre-seed.

I don't tend to get spotting since the acupuncture Lou so I'm sure it will help. I think a good acupuncturist should be really interested in your whole history, mental state etc. They tend to treat the whole person, rather than just your womb, iykwim. I love it, its made a huge difference to my mental health and in general I am much more positive. I do really believe now that we will have another baby. Don't get me wrong, I still get my off days, but I seem to recover quicker and they are not so bad. I really hope you find it helpful too!

I have Zestica but TH likes to not have anything. At least with pre-seed you can put it in without the man knowing.

Hehe, yes I did sneak into the bathroom last night to use the preseed as TG is put off by the whole idea. Poor bloke is going to have to get used to it - I've got the ewcm so I hope he is feeling energetic tonight.

Move up move up. Make space for me.

Been swi for three weeks already. It's beginning to take it's toll on dh. Looong irregular cycles means we just have to keep going from the moment my period stops to the moment it starts.

Have been ttc since August but was breastfeeding at the time so my cycles were even longer and our intentions more casual. Had a mc in nov and have been trying in earnest ever since.

Trying to pinpoint ovulation by cm and cervix position alone as can't chart temps or use opks. It's confusing, completely unreliable and full of false hope.

But I conceived ds with long irregular cycles two years ago, got pregnant whilst breastfeeding so I do believe we can do it again.

Am on cd29. Could have ov'ed two weeks ago or 9 days ago or could be about to over the next couple of days (so we're still swi). Ladybits not sore, but the not knowing when af due is giving me a sore head. I have cramps though so it's gotta be in the next 2 weeks??

omg Digi you deserve a medal - I am struggling with swi 4 or 5 days a month!! So um. Did you bring cake?!

I second that Digi you do deserve a medal! My bits are sore just thinking about it.

Cycle was regular last month (post mc) - so no idea this! Basically 'tis a mess, on pill, off pill and pg straight away, then bf, then 4/5 very weirdies a loooong time after giving birth, then pg, then mc, and to date 1 post mc. possible signs of ov - or just pains due to tooo much swi - currently.

Digi best of luck to ya, sounds fu-u-uun - mine's bad enough...

dh said today 'what day are you?
me: '15'
dh: 'is that why you're up for all this boffing?'
me: 'no dear, you're just particularly fanciable at the moment'

oh the joys of lying through your teeth to keep up the pretence of enjoying It!

Buffy you have to make them feel like its them that you want not their swimmers. Tis hard after a while.....

Digi I am surprised you have the energy to type with all that shagging.

I have made bread and butter pudding if anyone fancies a chunk slice.

Oooh I lurve bread and butter pudding, yes please!

I have made greek lamb meatballs, anyone want some? They are fecking gorgeous if I say so myself.

Lou has the witch put in an appearance yet?

Have made banana loaf with rum soaked raisins plus have a spare box of hotel chocolat choccies here don't scoff them all at once. And a bottle of prosecco to wash them down

Yes thank you for medals. I am mostly impressed by dh's stamina. After all he's expending the most energy at this stage. I have the option of not bothering to reach final destination.

Am poas tomorrow to rule out the earlier ovulestimate. And also because I want to get drunk on a work jolly.

I love meatballs. Love anything Greek including myself. That is a lie don't like Greek slimy men! Was eating Meze when my waters broke - like a good girl I finished my meal and paid the bill before going to my mum's to decide what to do next (DS was a tiny premmy so was in a bit of shock).

Witch is here. Came this morning when I wokr. Nevermind not too pissed off this month. Seems like hypno is helping already.

Bread and Butter pud has got orange zest so is really yummy.... Mmmmm... Think next time I might put Baileys in.

Has anyone seen Lia???

A veritable feast we have this evening! I am treating myself to RL cider, yum. Well I need a reward for swi!

Glad u got the PMA going on Lou! Not seen Lia, was thinking bout her today, hope she is ok.

Well I think today I am oving and we didn't manage to swi last night as TG was 'too tired' FFS. No doubt another month wasted - we only managed it once and I think it was too early. Bah. TG actually said to me last night (with regard to me getting the clomid in a month or two) 'well I didn't think it was really worth bothering til you get the drugs'. How to make your wife feel like a barren hag in one fail swoop. Tosser!