Issys girls.....10 down, only 4 to go! :-)

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So here it is... our shiney new thread... hope you all see it soon or i will be here all on my own.

ps Head i just meant no time to indulge in a good 'move baby move' fest which is what i have been doing when should have been working
sorry if sounded a bit odd!

Thanks Sunny - the last 3 are 3D ones - benefit of being a research guinea pig. Hope you're feeling better.

Lovely to hear from you Sif. Hope work eases up for you soon.

Updated the list with Blue's gender predictions. Maybe we should also add in what the Chinese gender chart says to compare for a bit of fun? Says girl for me too.

TTC
Girlwithacurl TTC#1
Bubblebell TTC#3
Sunnydale TTC#2
Irishmumwannabe TTC#1
Suzibhoy TTC#1

BFP
Wishing BFP 16/3/09 EDD ???.
RipMacWinkle TTC#2 BFP 30/3/09 EDD ??.
JumpingJellyFish TTC#3 BFP 31/3/09 EDD 7/12/09. Blue predicts girl
Bluesatinsash TTC#2 MC Aug 08 MC Dec 08 BFP 14/4/09 EDD 25/12/09. Blue predicts girl
HeadFairy BFP 22/04/09 EDD 27/12/09. Blue predicts boy
Issy TTC#1 MC Mar 08, CP Sep 09, IVF BFP 9/5/09 EDD 17/1/10. Blue predicts girl, CGC predicts girl, scan says girl
Sifuentes TTC#1 MMC Dec 08 BFP 11/5/09 EDD 12/1/10. Blue predicts boy
Wasabi TTC#2 MC Jan 09, BFP 25/5/09 EDD 2/02/10. Blue predicts girl

Hi All,

Issy - I'm having a girl on the CGC too and have duly updated

Sif - lovely to hear from you and yay! that you've got a bona fide bump now . It is a relief when we get past the churling stage and can stay up after 10pm . My appetite is still awry tho', I can still only eat little and often. No filet steak and all the trimmings for me any time soon

Sunny - sorry to hear your innerds are playing up again. Is your DH the saem or just you? Let's hope its a pre-BFP symptom....

Really enjoying my fortnight off, DH has let me lie in every morning which is bliss. Don't think you realise how tired you are until you can take a step back from it all. We're off up to Elgin tomorrow to stay with rellies and go to the beach . DS is loving having us around every day and starts the morning with "its the holidays" . REally spoiling him before he starts his ante-pre school place next week. Only three mornings but its the slippery slope to him leaving me and going off to school - sob!

TTC
Girlwithacurl TTC#1
Bubblebell TTC#3
Sunnydale TTC#2
Irishmumwannabe TTC#1
Suzibhoy TTC#1

BFP
Wishing BFP 16/3/09 EDD ???.
RipMacWinkle TTC#2 BFP 30/3/09 EDD ??.
JumpingJellyFish TTC#3 BFP 31/3/09 EDD 7/12/09. Blue predicts girl
Bluesatinsash TTC#2 MC Aug 08 MC Dec 08 BFP 14/4/09 EDD 25/12/09. Blue predicts girl, CGC predicts girl
HeadFairy BFP 22/04/09 EDD 27/12/09. Blue predicts boy
Issy TTC#1 MC Mar 08, CP Sep 09, IVF BFP 9/5/09 EDD 17/1/10. Blue predicts girl, CGC predicts girl, scan says girl
Sifuentes TTC#1 MMC Dec 08 BFP 11/5/09 EDD 12/1/10. Blue predicts boy
Wasabi TTC#2 MC Jan 09, BFP 25/5/09 EDD 2/02/10. Blue predicts girl

Blue very jealous of your morning lie-ins, though I had one yesterday as I was working from home. Hope you're having a lovely few days away.

I'm not having such a great day today. I got hauled in front of the Director this morning and got a grilling on something that I'm not meant to know and had told someone I thought I could trust. Wasn't pleasant - on my birthday too. Then got a text to say my friend who was coming up tomorrow is feeling unwell. The other one cancelled last weekend because of swine flu at her work. Got home to get a call from doctors saying they've found blood in my urine sample but no infection and need to repeat the test. Googled and read that it's a sign that pregnancy is struggling or something wrong with baby, so now I'm worried. Going for a drink with a couple of friends later so hopefully will cheer me up.

Hi everyone else. Hope you're all off enjoying yourselves somewhere nice.

Issy sorry you're having such a crappy time. And belated happy birthday! That's rotten of your director to do that when you are pg - I remember my (female) boss was much the same when I was pg - she didn't take it into account at all and once bollocked me in front of 3 others in her office. It will feel all the worse for you coz of your hormones. Try to let it go... not easy I know. Remember, soon you will be on maternity leave, hurrah!
Not sure what to say about the blood as know nothing about it. Anyone else? Nurse Head? Don't google! It is probably nothing to worry about and hopefully a one-off.

Blue congrats on your female bean! Lovely news. Have a lovely hols - never been to Elgin but I've heard it's gorgeous. LOL at your optimism that my "runny" tummy might be a pg symptom. I'm not even going there. Of course, I have no idea when af is due as it'll be my first post mc... 5 weeks and counting.... oh well, que sera sera and all that.
Hello to everyone else, sorry not to post individually but dd is getting restless, better go...

Firstly belated Happy Birthday to Issy. Hope your week has gotten better after your 'mare day at work. Working in HR is such a delicate business, one part secret service and two parts lawyer land! Really hope the blood in your urine is nothing to worry about - step away from Google its mad, bad and dangerous.

Sunny - I'm not giving away any of DS's blue clothes just yet as I have nothing scientific to go on, just my hunch and the Chinese gender thingy . Elgin is beautiful and so near so many beaches. If the weather is kind, there is no place nicer than Scotland at this time of year, its just awe inspiring.

DH and me are off this week too, yippee!

Hope everyone else is doing away, love to all x

Hello, AF arrived to today, so we can officially start trying again! yehay!

Hope everyone is doing well, any news issy?

Hi all. Thanks for the birthday wishes. The day did get better in the evening, thankfully.
Sunny - Hope your tummy is better.
Blue - It wasn't anything as serious as that, just some very selfish colleagues who don't want to give up or share their great big office even though others have nowhere to sit. One of them blanked me today - I feel like I'm in the playground. As if there talking/not talking to me is anything I give a damn about in current circumstances. Hope you're enjoying your time off.
Glad you're back on track now Girl. How're you feeling?
I handed in my new sample this morning, but presume I won't hear anything until Friday as I gave the last one to them Monday last week. Forgot to pick up an empty sample tube though, so shall have to go back before next appointment. Just wish little one would give me a good kick to let me know she's OK. Thought she was doing it the other day as had sharp pain whenever I stood up, but consulted the pregnancy books and realised that it was prob just round ligament pain.
Have to dash now. Hi everyone else, hope you're well.

Girl so glad AF has returned and you can get back to TTC. Fingers crossed for you this month xx

Issy - ah office politics, we have that here too with who gets the best position in the office (me as I was there first - he he!), who hates being near the window, too hot away from it la di dah... Have you thought of hiring a doppler so you can hear baby's hb? One of the girls on my other thread did for reassurance. Its a bit of a double edged sword as sometimes hb is hard to hear if baby is curled up and can lead to undue anxiety but worth thinking about.... Really hope your urine is NAD (to use a preganancy abbreviation .

Hello all.. Sorry I haven't been around for a while. Been mad busy as usual. My MIL is over from Cyprus to help us out while dh is unable to walk, but much as she tries to help, it is still like having a house guest to look after as well as dh, ds and all the other crap.

girl I'm glad your af showed up and you can start ttc again. Good luck for this month.

Issy sorry to hear about your work woes and worry about blood in urine. I hope it was just a blip. I know what you mean about wishing baby would just give a big kick... I get some squirming, but really not many kicks (it could just be that I'm too busy to sit down and concentrate on feeling them) but this morning I got up for my 5am pee and the baby was pretty active after that so rather than doze off again I lay there feeling him/her moving around. I'm sure you little dd will start moving more soon.

Blue enjoy your lie-ins. I'm very I haven't slept more than 6 hours for aaaages! And enjoy your two weeks off, so nice to be at home and just potter, not having to do anything really. My dream day off

Sif lovely to hear from you... hope you can make it back on here soon!

sunny I hope you're feeling better. Tummy upsets are rotten, they so exhausting. Poor you.

I hope everyone else is well, Irish, Jumping wasabi and Bubble. I've got 22 week scan on Monday so I will hopefully be able to update you all as to whether Madame blue's prediction was right for me

xx

Hi ladies

Struggling to keep up with you all, so apologies for lack of personals.

Issy really hope the blood in urine is just a strange "blip", it's so annoying they can't be more definitive with what may cause it other than a UTI. I hope you get your results from the last sample asap. Do not Google! I remember the consultant who diagnosed DD's CF telling me that, and of course I ignored her, but then spent an awful week as an emotional wreck after reading too much on t'internet. As she said, for people to write on the internet, a bit like most media, it has to be because it is something dramatic or dire and they need to share such rare situations with others as it's unlikely their immediate circle in RL have had such experiences, so it is of course horribly skewed. But you know that of course! FWIW I didn't feel distinct movements with DS until around 24 weeks. With DD it was from 18 weeks, and this time from 16 weeks. All normal! And at first the movements do feel more like wind- gentle flutterings like gas bubbles- and very sporadic. It is very reassuring once the big kicks start! Personally I have veered away from using a doppler, as I do think I would get paranoid, but for some it does provide much needed reassurance. Never worry about calling your midwife though if you are getting concerned- even if it seems minor.

Head sounds like you are having a crazy time. How long now until DH can be more mobile? Hope you are coping ok.

Girl yey that AF returned! Here's tonnes of baby dust for the coming cycle!

Sunny how are you today? Any sign of AF yet? Hope you're ok.

Well all fine here- have been having a lot of rib pain on my right side, especially after working at my desk, but recall this from DD's pregnancy and know it lasted about a month then eased, so hoping it will soon. If not will have to trek to physio just to see what I can do. Think part of the prob had been wearing inappropriately sized bras - am bigger than I imagine!! But no time to get measured at mo, so just working through my assorted maternity bras from last 2 pregnancies...
Otherwise PhD is all written! But now on horrendous formatting, which is more time consuming than I'd realised (so a bit stressed)... Work is going well, very peaceful! Kids have adjusted fairly well to my new hours but DS did say he wanted to stay with mummy all day today, which nearly broke my heart as I go ready to leave. At least his nana's looking after them today (i.e. lots of spoiling!).
House is still in chaos, but that's a whole other (dull) story.... DH promises me things will be more in order by the time this LO arrives, so praying for no early entrances!

Right, work beckons...

A big hello to Blue, Wasabi, Bubble, Irish, Sif & Wishing hope you are all doing ok xxx

Hello all
Head, lovely to hear from you. Hope your MIL is not being too obtrusive. Know what you mean about house guests - even the most well meaning relatives still require extra TLC. But never mind that - you must have had your scan today! Spill the beans! Dying to hear your news!
Issy, glad your day got better. Hope there is no more blood in your wee. Boo to office politics.
Blue, have you been to Islay? Apparently it's lovely and someone was telling me I should go one day... as a Scot, what do you reckon?
Girl, so so so pleased for you that AF has made an appearance. You must be so glad. It's six weeks today since my mc, so I was hoping AF would have showed for me, too. Which brings me to my next question for the room... am I mad to do a pg test? We only BD'd once since the mc, so it's super highly unlikely. And yet...
Despite all the very valid reasons for not BD'ing so soon after a mc, I don't mind too much simultaneously hoping AF turns up and wondering whether I'm pg. It's an individual choice, I know, but I've found the waiting for AF easier, knowing that it might be late because I'm pg, rather than that it's just not here because my body is all screwed up. Does that make sense? Probably not! Hey ho. Okay, the pg test is staying firmly in the bathroom.
Hello to Sif, Jumping, Wasabi and Irish too

how do you feel sunny any signs other than no AF. I guess doing a test won't do any harm, do you know when/if you ov'd?

Hi all ... Blue - Hope you're enjoying your time off. I've already started counting down to mat leave - 59 working days to go.
Head - Hope you're coping with your MIL. I get where you're coming from there - am steering my mum away from coming for Christmas and staying until baby comes - thankfully dad's on my side as he can't cope with being a veggie for that long . Must be great feeling baby squirming, I'm not sure what's baby movement and what's just everything growing. Hopefully won't be too long before I feel something definitely baby.
JJF - Congratulations on getting your thesis finished. Hope the formatting is finished now - it takes so long doesn't it. My bra tip is sports bras - wore mine on Sunday as both maternity bras in wash and so much more comfy, even though it's my pre-pregnancy bra size, I've been wearing it since. I think they are measuring me wrong for the maternity ones - doing that adding on 4/5 inches thing so they ride up and cut into bottom of boob.
Sunny - I was going to ask the same questions as Girl. I guess if thinking you might be is making you feel better then maybe wait, but I wouldn't be able to, I'm rubbish at not testing.
Rang docs yesterday to ask when result would be back and got very arsey receptionist - we have x patients here we don't have time to call people back unless there's something wrong - to which I nearly replied there already is something wrong you stupid woman so a bit of understanding and courtesy wouldn't go amiss! . Anyway after getting a little emotional on her she told me to call back after 5pm today, which I did, but nothing back yet. Nice receptionist today told me to make sure someone chases it if it's not back tomorrow. I've started having stretching pains again today though so less worried. Thanks for the doppler suggestion Blue. I thought about it but someone told me they cause more anxiety than they solve, so prob best to give it a miss. Hope all will be well tomorrow, in the meantime I'm keeping myself busy and continuing my one woman attempt to prop up the economy by buying a new car. Nissan have extended scrappage scheme and guaranteed £2000 trade-in for vehicles 8 years old and they've found me a 5-dr purple Micra which will be available on 29th, so test driving similar car on Saturday to be sure, but probably going to get it. It'll be bye-bye to beloved 106 I've had for 9 years. Snap decision as MOT, service and insurance due on Monday. Initially wasn't going to but then researching car seats I came across an article about how baby should be flat and possible links to cot death from the usual shape baby seats. Thinking of getting a pram that comes with carrycot that can go in car but only in the back and also read that back seat is safer than front passenger. People keep telling me that putting a child seat in back of 3-dr is a 'mare, so new 5-dr car it is. All mumsnet's fault for making me think about prams and stuff so early when I saw a thread about how much people are paying for them! Mine will not be a Buggaboo.

Hi Bubble, Irish, Sif, Wasabi & Wishing. Oh nearly forgot to say (again), we've had another success from one of the early posters on the thread, Ilovebeingamummy posted on my babynames thread a week or two ago and was 8 weeks then.

Hi All!

Issy - only 59 working days, that doesn't seem long at all . You have been busy a la new car! I used to have a Micra and it didn't give me a days bother. Traded it in for a VW Polo as I'm a VW girl at heart but miss the Micra's electric windows! re: car seat, its really important that baby isn't flat in car as lying flat is the worst position for a side impact. Mothercare actually have a disclaimer on the 'Jane' pram car seat/carrycot as it goes flat, along the lines that they don't recommend it etc. I'm with you on not wanting baby in car seat for any legnth of time too and DS was literaly only in his in the car, I never clicked the car seat onto his pram. The carrycot part is much cosier, cuter and most importantly best for them. I've got the Mamas and Papas 'Ultimo' and will use it this time although I'm going to treat myself to new chasis/wheels. Glad you've had some ligament stretching pains and hope your next post is telling us your urine was fine. Great news about ilovebeingamummy! Jumpingbigbrain - well done you on your PHD, hope the formatting is nearly finished and you've not spilt coffee on it .

Sunny - how are you feeling today? Any symptoms?? Crap thing is AF symptoms are identical to pg ones - grrr. I've not been to Islay I'm afraid, it it one of the islands (I should know that ). I'm sure its blustery and gorgeous and good at fish and chips .

Head - you have alot on your plate just now missy. Just think by Christmas you'll be in your new house, MIL free with your new kneed DH, DS and (maybe if he/she is early)new lo - hold onto that thought! Will be thinking about you on Monday and hope everything goes OK and baby behaves so you can find out the flavour.

Girl - have you gotten a new shiny batch of OPKs?

wasabi - not heard from you for a whie. Hope the house stuff is going OK.

Sif - are you finding out the flavour at your 20-week scan?

Irish, Bubble and Suzi - how are you all doing?

I'll probably pop back on tomorrow to see how Issy's results are but i'll be away all weekend 'til Monday as I'm off to Berlin - Achtung Baby as they say! My two big sisters and me are taking my Mum for her 70th birthday. It should be very interesting as we've never been away all four of us and will we slip back into our old 'family' habits i.e. me being bossed about and becoming surly before shouting at middle sister and calmed down by oldest one - I can almost hear David Attenborough giving a commentry . Good thing is we're all lazy mares so long lies afoot - yay!

Hello all

Issy, can't believe only 59 days to go! That sounds so soon! Boo to the rude receptionist, but stretching pains sound positive so hope you're not too worried. Loving your car dilemma. I can't even drive. What a loser. I've recently got it into my head that I'd love to learn (spurred on by the promise of cheap rental of a Mercedes A Class) but I've heard it takes ages at my age.

Blue have a lovely time in Berlin. My friend went recently and loved it. It's supposed to be amazing.

Girl how is your AF, if you don't mind me asking? Is it different in any way to your usual one?

Head, still waiting with baited breath for you to spill the beans about the flavour of your bean!

Bubble I totally forgot to say hello to you in my last post. How are you doing? Is the clomid still making you feel rubbish, or has it settled down a bit?

I feel bloody awful tonight. Furiously angry for no good reason, after feeling pretty happy all day. Something is definitely stirring down there, but whether it's AF or not I do not know. I think it is, but it just won't come. I think I'm angry because of Fertility Friend. Don't laugh! I went on it for the first time, and filled in all my temps, and it told me my temperature was erratic, which might be a sign of not ovulating. It also told me to take my temp at the same time of day. I do that already, you bossy website. So tonight I'm feeling really sick of temping at 7am, licking my microscope to look for fern patterns, checking my mucus, eating baked fish and spinach, abstaining from alcohol and watching fecking box sets. Is this what the rest of my life will be? Also, I worked out I'd been pg for 21 weeks since this time last year, which is almost half. That made me think. I just don't know if I can be sitting here this time next year doing same.
Sorry for venting. I know it's my hormones really. But that doesn't make it easier. Anyway, am not doing pg test as am not throwing another £5.99 at the "problem" when am skint and have already spent about £2000 all in all in the pursuit of having baby two. Jeez, almost enough for a round of IVF when you think about it. I keep trying to think: "good times are coming, good times are coming" but good times don't come for everyone, life isn't like that. Golly, what a misery guts I am tonight - AF MUST be due

.... although I have to say, my little repeat pattern of blue and red faces has actually cheered me up a bit

Hey sunny sounded like you needed a vent, we all do now and then, good for the soul! Don't mind you asking at all... it was pretty normal actually, doesn't seem heavier or lighter than usual, had pretty bad PMT though, but was already low so I think it just made it all worse and harder to cope with rather than anything to do with my body.

blue yes, went out and got a new pack of digital OPK's and some grapefruit juice, also started EPO as soon as AF came as it really seemed to regulate my cycle. I have looked at the dates and it looks like I should Ov when I am away on holiday... with DP, and my best friend and her DP, sharing her parents cottage in France. Will be lovely, but its not exactly private. She knows everything though and has just said to send them out for a walk if we need to

another new car head didn't you just get one? I got a new one recently and after the successes with a new volvo did consider it, ended up with a skoda, which was a surprise to me as I never thought I would, but you know, its actually really nice!

Hi to everyone else, issy jumping sif wasabi irish

Sunny FWIW I got insansly bad tempered before all my +HPTs. I don't normally get PMT but the pregnancy progesterone turned me into a crabbit old cow! Had to LOL at Fertility Friend being 'bossy' . Your sense of humour WILL see you through this!

Girl - glad your fully stocked for this month and OV on holiday is fab, all relaxed and raring to go . Its Issy not Head who has a new car .

for Sunny

doh!

Hi all - just nipping on quickly to say that everything is OK. Phew! Still a bit at docs though as they did the test in the surgery on Monday so could have told me that when I rang on Tuesday or even yesterday. Sorry for lack of personals, still at work at mo.

Yay! Issy - I can go off on hols now knowing your a-ok.

at your doctors...

Thanks Girl and thanks Blue for your coloured faces - they cheered me up again no end! I'm v sorry for yesterday's rant, which I've just read back and realised made me sound like a complete mental case.

I went to the loo today and there was a tiny (TMI alert) bit of dark brown blood - I guess you'd call it spotting - but still no AF. Am going to check out other mc threads, as I seem to think spotting is quite common after mc. Still not doing a pg test for all the aforementioned reasons, plus don't feel pg at all. Just have really bad PMT! Really, really hope AF comes tomorrow as this spotting is taunting me.

Girl, glad your AF was pretty normal but sorry it was emotional. On the bright side, now you know where you are with your cycle.

Issy glad all ok with your bean, hurrah.

Hello to everyone else.

Sunny hope AF appears sooner rather than later so you are out of limbo land, it is so frustrating waiting for AF at the best of times while TTC, and a lot more so after a mc. My periods changed a lot after DD was born, and whereas I'd never had spotting pre-AF I started to every cycle, often for around 24hrs, followed by a day of nothing (cue getting hopes up that spotting was an implantation bleed), then AF would finally arrive in full flow.

Bubble not heard from you in a while- really hope you are ok?

Blue have a fab holiday!

Issy what a relief about your test results, but very annoying they took so long to tell you.

All ok here, had a big wobble yesterday about everything- house (still DIY chaos, still now washing machine since we moved in 6 wks ago etc etc), work, PhD, pregnancy, getting DS ready for school (still issue with wiping after toilet etc.!)... Ended up crying in front of the kids for an hour and then felt awful for them witnessing that- DS is a sensitive soul and kept asking why I was sad, and today has been giving me lots of hugs and asking me to stay happy... Think it really was just hormones and tiredness- been going to bed too late for far too long. Midwife friend came round yesterday afternoon and basically instructed me to get more sleep, said I look too pale etc... Easier said than done, but will try to as I am worried about pre-eclampsia etc. and I do need to do my best to keep me and LO in good health.

OK long rant over. Sorry all. Hope you all have a lovely weekend and the sun shines (we finally have some sun over here- first time in a week)!

Hello all

Don't think many of you are around at the mo, so by the time anyone else has read this I'll probably have mc'd again. But today, this afternoon, right at this moment...

BFP! BFP! As B and F as a P can be!

Absolutely cacking it, obviously, but just trying to enjoy the feeling of being pg while it lasts. Realise the outcome isn't great: not ideal to be pg without having a "normal" cycle first after a mc, or so the doctors say. We only bd'd once - just to get back in the swing of things, really, rather than with any expectations. Just goes to show, I guess: once is all it takes! Admittedly I had a hunch I was ovulating but didn't know for sure.

Blue, you are so right about progesterone making women crabbit: I thought it was PMT but it must have been progesterone that turned me into a moody, melodramatic eejit this week. I only tested because I fancied a drink tonight, and just wanted to be sure I wasn't pg, as opposed to thinking I was. I nearly fell off the loo when the second line came up. It came up right away, nice and dark, not like last time when I had to squint at it. Is this a good sign? I've taken a photo in case the pink line is as far as this pg goes - something for posterity in lieu of a scan. I don't mean to be negative - I'm just trying to keep things in proportion and not get too excited.

Jelly, sorry to hear you are feeling overwhelmed, but from what you have on your plate it's not surprising. Anyone would feel the same and it's probably stuff like having no washing machine that will tip you over the edge. I know it would me. Don't feel bad about your ds seeing you cry - I also feel bad when that happens but they can take it; it's part of life. And also, how lovely that he is so sensitive and caring towards you. You are obviously raising him beautifully.

Head I'm getting irrationally worried not to have heard from you (am I turning into your mother? Oh dear) - really hoping you're ok and just busy.

Hello to everyone else, oh god I feel so nervous, I have to keep it together