Issys girls.....10 down, only 4 to go! :-)

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So here it is... our shiney new thread... hope you all see it soon or i will be here all on my own.

Congratulations Wasabi, she's adorable .

Oh wow indeed!!

Congratulations to both Bella and Wasabi- what wonderful news!

Clara looks gorgeous too- well done!! And great that you managed a VBAC

All going well here, Ffion sometimes sleeping 7hrs at night- though attached on boob from about 6pm til midnight beforehand! Have a lovely bum shaped dent on sofa! It is chaos still, 3 is keeping me more than busy, spend life mopping up bodily fluids it seems and cooking, washing etc and that's about it, but they are a delight really!

Have finally uploaded some photos.

Trying to do viva prep now while DD2 sleeps and the other 2 have been taken out kindly by MIL. Brain still like mush mind, so a bit worried!

Issy so glad Eira is home again- how are you both getting on?

Much love to all- sorry would write more personals but feeling the guilt re work and also burning tea!! xxx

Hi guys, I am really sorry I have been AWOL. I took a break from mumsnet as it was getting a bit too much for me. This is going to make me sound awful, and very selfish, but happy though I was for everyone when they got good news, I just kept thinking "why not me... when will it be my turn?". I haven't read back through the thread, but it sounds like everyone is doing really well, with bouncing bundles of joy, or very nearly. Perhaps someone can give me a quick list of everyone and their status.
Anyway, the reason I am back now is I finally got a BFP this morning... it was very faint, but it was there. Obviously with my history (MC and EP, one tube removed and 2 years of trying) I am not really feeling like i can get excited yet, and I now have to wait 2 weeks before I can have a scan to check everything is in the right place, so it won't be until then that I can really feel it is happeneing... but its a start. Anyway, I am really pleased that everyone else is doing so well. Wave to you all, and sorry I haven't been around to share it wih you!

Congratulations Girl!

Congratulations Girl - delighted for you . Will be praying this one's a sticky bean and already snuggled in your womb xx

Jumping - loving those photos, what a head of hair Ffion has . I thought my boys were hirsute .

Hey to everyone else. Like me probably knackered and inarticulate at the moment. Hope all the new mummies are all doing well in the trenches and pg ladies blooming xx

Hello all
Congratulations Wasabi - baby Peanut is beautiful, and respect for the water birth. Hope you are enjoying this delightful but nackering time.

Girl I am so delighted to hear from you, and even more so that you have finally got your BFP! I have everything crossed that it will work out this time. I can only imagine how hard it has been for you and COMPLETELY understand why you didn't feel able to post here for a while. It is totally normal to feel "why me" even though you are happy for everyone - I felt the same, I just wasn't honest enough to post it. Even now I still think things will go wrong. Got my 28 week scan tomorrow - no idea why the Royal Free offers a 28w scan, but anyway... apparently it's procedure. Am nervous as heck about it, for the aforementioned reason of worrying things will still go wrong.

Hope everyone else is doing fine with their babes... Irish, has the sickness worn off a bit? When is your 12w scan? Must be getting nearer. And love to dear Bubble too.

Thanks guys! I am going absolutly crazy and have become a knicker checking mad woman! DP refuses to talk, or even think about it as he is convinced it is all going to go wrong again. Have 2 weeks of this hell!

Am off to look at everyones piccies now!

Hi everyone,

Quick post while both my progeny are asleep - and lords knows this doesn't happen often!

Girl Congratulations That is truly fabulous news. I completely get why you wanted to take a break from MN. I felt when I was TTC that it was sometimes feeding the obsession as well as giving me comfort. Wishing you all the sticky bean vibes I can!

Jumping Thanks for posting those pictures. Your family look gorgeous - I particularly love the one of your DD1 with her blanket on her head! I'm sure it is all pretty crazy (and I can certainly relate to your comment about bodily fluids!) but it must be wonderful too.

Sunny How was your 28 week scan?

Oooh hang on, gotta go - DS just woken up, more later xx

Girl so lovely to "see" you back, and with such brilliant news too. I bet you are completely on tenderhooks and I wish you and lil bean tonnes of good luck and sticky vibes- and hope you can maintain some semblance of sanity waiting for your scan- big hugs x

blue with you on the inarticulate front, think I've been that way since DS was born but it's now pretty impairing!!

Had my PhD viva on weds and amazingly passed with only very minor corrections. So am now a doc- of Irish Sea prawns! Ffion slept through most of it, and only took 2oz from her bottle for my MIL but didn't seem to mind, had a huge feed from me once I came out 3 hours later. Am exhausted from it all now, but mightily relieved too.

Looking forward to reading your news more often now! Love to you all xxxx

Congrats dr jumping .

Once again posting from my mobile while feeding. One day will find time for proper post but can't promise when .

Well done Dr Jumping !! Massive pats on back and whoops! To get a pHD alone is hard to do it bringing up two DCs and pregnant is just awesome so take a bow!!!

Wooh hoo Dr Jumping - I love prawns, me, and what a worthy PHD to have. Can I ask you lots of questions about them? Like, are you meant to eat them when pg? Ha ha just joking. Just looked at your pics - gorgeous family

All fine at my 28w scan, but bit gutted I was in hospital for 4 hours by the time I'd had scan, blood test, endocrine appt and dr's appt. Also got to go back Thursday for ANOTHER glucose test. Had one at 16w and all fine, but they told me that that one had actually been a waste of time as it's later that you tend to develop gestational diabetes. Not sure why I'm being tested at all other than that DD1 was 10lb . Anyone else had experience of this? The thought of another 3 hour hospital appt makes me feel a bit depressed. Tell me I am being stupid and selfish. FFS, I'm pg, and that is a glorious thing. Listen to me complaining - can I not remember that it was a mere 28 weeks ago that I was on the 2ww, convinced I'd never be pg again? Shame on me! Right, I've lectured myself into a shame spiral now; bye bye . And hello to everyone else - Irish, am wanting to hear from you missy, am getting paranoid

Hello ladies - thank God for the lovely internet people who have finally fixed my Internet and made me able to log on. Woohoo I have been having such withdrawal symptom.

Am so amazed at all you new mums who still get tme to come on here - it gives me hope.

Jumping congratulations on the PHD It is such a fantastic achievement especially when we all know what you have going on. Your pics are fantastic - such cute little ones.

girl that is such brilliant news for you as well - am delighted for you and hoping you get everything you want in this pregnancy. Hope the scan goes well for you.

Wasabi and Bella how are you coping with the new arrivals?

Head hope the wind gets better for Francesca.

Issy how is Eira now?

Sunny glad to hear the 28w scan went well and I'm sorry for any paranoia that came from me not posting. It's a pity to hear that you were so long in the hospital when you went.

So now for my updates - well I am 13 weeks on Saturday and still no scan date. DH is skiing with the boys this week so we're waiting for him to come home before we go for our private scan so I'll book it next week.

I have had a few doctor's appointments and had my most recent one today. The lovely doctor put a doppler on my stomach and OMG we heard such a strong little heartbeat. I was so relieved to hear it and nearly cried when I heard it. I'm so glad and happy.

On another note, there are 6 women in my office who are all pregnant and who are all due in July or August. It's fantastic and we all announced in or around the same time. It's going to be great to have people in RL who are going to be getting fat with me! :-)

Anyway that's all my news - am going to go and have some food - oh yeah I have also regained my appetite having lost 7lb for the first three months. It's so good being able to eat again.

Hello my lovelies - sorry for radio silence but been enjoying my amazing bundle of cosy squidgy loveliness, William (Billy).
Have uploaded a couple of pics for you as am so proud.
Just a short post as he is farting merrily away on my lap and will be demanding more of mummy's finest soon. He weighed 9pounds 9 ounces at birth. not sure how much now but my right arm aches!

girl I am SO pleased to hear about your BFP. Have everything crossed for you xxxx

wasabs adorable photos

hi everyone else. head i posted on your thread about tummy sleeping. have been experiencing exactly the same with this one.

Hi everyone else. Hope all is good. ooo and congrats Dr Jelly

Hi Bella and welcome again William - great name BTW!!! I can't see your photos . Aparantely setting them up for a select few to see doesn't work, remember Issy tried that last year ...

Hi everyone else, irish - fantastic that you got to hear heartbeat. Its your turnnow happy days .

Sunny great to hear your 28-weekscan went well - gosh you are galloping through this pg (like hell I am you say .

Hope all my fellow - ahem - yummy mummies are OK and waving not drowning. I'm finding it a little easier now Benjamin's 8 weeks. Feeding going well although he is cluster feeding 4/5/6am rather than 5/6/7pm! Even had both boys out in Volvo estate last week - eek! Ben's getting a wee personality and think he is going to be quite strong willed like his Mum!

Have put an updated photo up of him I snapped whilst changing him on Friday.

Take care lovelies and don't dissapear forever OK?

thanks for the heads up blue - not sure why they're not coming up as have any mumsnetter set up - praps because i don't have a profile. hmmm
will check out your new photo now

got it! He is absolutely adorable Bella . You must be proud as punch!

How's he liking the tummy tub? We had one for DS1 which doubled up as handy bath toy store when he was older. DS2 started off in it but prefers to bath in beside his big brother

Helllooooo all!

Finally got a few mins, perhaps, before Ffion re-attaches herself...

Irish so so glad you have heard the heartbeat- I think the first time I heard DS' it made me cry! When can you get your private scan?

Sunny so glad all went well with the scan, though don't envy the waiting around in the hospital. Hope you are feeling ok at the third trimester kicks in?

Bella LOVE your photos of Billy- fab name too!! Wow what an excellent weight- hats off to you! Sounds like you are just swept off your feet by baby love

Blue- Ben is beautiful! And doesn't he look like his big bro?! Hope the midnight cluster feeding pattern changes soon. I'm finding now that Ffion has reached the magic 12 weeks she's really settling down in the nights a lot better, we're luckily getting quite a lot of 8 hour stints usually from 11.30pm Bit of a welcome surprise as the other two didn't sleep like that until they were a lot older, though of course I know without doubt she'll throw a spanner in the works at some point...routines never seem to stay the same for more than a week!
Had miserable mastitis 2 weeks ago and ended up with nipple "trauma" as a result of F pulling through milk clots, has only finally healed and it was such unbelievable agony. Had the breastfeeding counsellor out- never thought I'd need help b'feeding my third but they are wonderful women, really helped us get through it. She's a joy to feed at the moment, gives me all these gorgeous cheeky grins as she feeds- makes it all so worthwhile

Right, time's up!
Much love to you all- still keeping everything crossed for you girl during these early weeks- hope you're ok xxx

Hi everyone, sorry for going awol for so long, been trying to work out how on earth I get through the day with the worlds clingiest toddler! Poor ds is all over me all the time, I'm trying to do my best to give him lots of cuddles but he always wants them when I'm feeding Francesca! I'm usually totally wiped by 8pm when I've got them both in bed that I slump zombie like on the sofa!

sunny I'm so glad your scan went well, but how miserable to have to hang around the hospital for so long!

Irish how fab for you to hear your babies heartbeat before your scan. I've always gone in to my first scans with such a feeling of terror because I've never heard the heartbeat before my first scans, so how lovely for you to be able to go the scan feeling so reassured.

Bella lovely pics of Billy, those cheeks are just so squeezable!!!

blue Ben is so gorgeous, what a lovely photo!

jumping Ouch at the mastitis! sounds horrendous. I had a tiny blocked duct the other week, and that was bad enough! Glad to hear it's all better, and I'm very impressed at you perservering!

I've uploaded a new picture of Francesca, she looks very solemn, she does smile lots really, but she always looks so serious when I get the camera out! She's starting to sleep much better now, Bella I've finally managed to find a way to make her sleep on her back in her bed, which is such a relief. I sleep much better. It's still not enough though, I can never get enough sleep!

Talking of which... off to bed

Night night all, take care x

Hi guys,

Head - at Francesca photo - she is adorable. sorry to hear your Ds is being clingy, I know my nearly four year old is trying too but at least he is at playgroup three mornings a week and nursery all day on a Friday! Does your DS still go to his childminder at all to give you a bit of a break?

Jumping - ouch re: mastitis. Really glad its away now though. I dread getting it..

Irish - any scan news yet?

Bella - how is little Billy getting on?

wasabi ditto with Clara? Issy double ditto with Eira?

Ben had his first jags yesterday my darling boy!! Everything well, he is 12lb 6 oz now - full of gold top mummy milk . He is also napping in his room in his cot now and doing the first part of the evening in there in his tiny sleeping bag (7pm-10pm). Still in bed with me after then as he's still feeding at least twice during the night but its at least getting him used to his room. DH and me had our first evening ever downstairs with both boys tucked up asleep upstairs, it was bliss. We watched the maternity programme 'One born every minute' I could have punched the unsupportive VBAC husband!

Hello all
Yes, it's me, the long-lost Sunnydale. It's Mumsnet's 10th birthday today so it reminded me to post - not that I don't think of you all often coz I really do!
Blimey, it warms my cockles that the news on this thread has so overwhelmingly turned out to be good - Irish still pg, Girl pg, and lots of delightful wee babbies. Your photos are all gorgeous, ladies. Hope you are all having a ball.
Well, I'm 32 weeks now, can you believe it? I can't, I really can't. Sunnybean is kicking as I type - I'm the size of a house already and can't actually imagine being any bigger. I have a question but don't expect an answer on account of you all being so busy, so I might post it on another thread as well... did any of you have a vbac in the end? I can't remember. I've been blanking the actual birth out but I figure I ought to start thinking about it now. Got a 32w scan and check-up tomorrow, that's why.
Loads and loads of love to all of you. I posted about a money worry on another thread last month and my god, the vitriolic replies I got scared me off MN for a while. I am so grateful to you all for being so nice to me and to each other during our journey. Right, I'll go before I start crying like a sad pregnant hormonal mess

HI Sunny, good to have you back!!! Wow, doesn't time fly?

I didn't have a VBAC in the end, I agree with the consultant that I was happy to go for it but I really didn't want an induction. I did everything I could to get things going, but in the end I was a week over and showing signs of placental failure so I opted for a planned cs. Sorry I can't help you with your Vbac plans, but good luck with it.

FWIW I found it much harder to recover from my second cs, it was much more painful and I wish I'd been organised and done what I'd intended to do all along and hired a doula to help me through the vbac, I sailed through my first cs and I thought this would be the same. Hopefully that'll motivate you for your vbac! Good luck and come back soon xx

Hello all!
Any news from Irish? really hope she's had her scan and all is ok? And Girl too, thinking of you lots.
Bubble how are you? Please stay with us when you are allowed to TTC again, this is a lucky thread and we will handhold all the way x

Sunny I had wanted a VBAC with DC2 (DC1 born emcs due to severe PE) but pre-eclampsia put paid to those plans when it became apparently that the pregnancy shouldn't be allowed to progress longer than 36 weeks, and I was no where near "ripe" then to even try a natural delivery (and they had agreed the risks from hormonal induction for a VBAC are too great). I then hoped perhaps (& very naively) for a VBA2C this time round, but my consultant wouldn't even entertain it, and now I realise she was right as again wouldn't have made it to the point where I might have gone into labour myself.

I think from everything I read it's best to go into labour naturally, which is grand except if you go far overdue without any sign of things starting by themselves- as happened to Head. With DC2 I was taking raspberry leaf capsules from 35 weeks, started perineal massage then too - and was willing to try nearly anything to at least have a shot at labour. But equally I am now not disappointed by not achieving a VBAC as know it wasn't an option for my pregnancies due to the PE. I think generally consultants are very supportive of VBACs if there are no medical reasons why it might not be wise. I think it generally goes with having children that you shouldn't get your heart set on anything, as births, pregnancies and the kids themselves have a habit of throwing everything up in the air!
I think wasabi had a VBAC? So I'm sure she has lots of sensible words of wisdom rather than my confused rant!!

OK I am rambling as I'm a bit sleep deprived... Ffion has a really nasty cough and is not sleeping well, but so far it hasn't become too serious so that's the main thing! Madly I have gone back to work 2 morns a week- as I'm now self employed and got offered a small contract I felt I had to take it on...MIL is minding DC2 & 3 while I work..only for a couple of months though.
Hardly ever get on MN these days but do look forward enormously to catching up with you all.

Good luck Sunny with the next few weeks!

Lots of love xx

P.S. Blue way to go Ben on his weight gain!! And glad your evenings and nights are getting a bit more settled. Ffion is only just now weighing 12lb so v impressed by Ben!! She's maintaining her centile though (25th) so considering she was 3 weeks early I'm happy! Still having probs getting her to happily take a bottle...had to try hard due to needing to work a bit but so far only grudgingly takes a little EBM, then as soon as I'm home guzzles for ages from me to make up for it! Very aware that it'll only get harder the older she gets, but hard to persevere as hardly any time to express at the mo!

Hi guys,

Got some time whilst DH boils the kettle for my evening cuppa! both boys asleep in their rooms

Sunny - 32 weeks, fantastic! Yes wasabi had a VBAC and I'm sure can give you some tips. I tried but ended up with an 'urgent' C-section (new term when its not emergency, running down the corridor but not elective).

I was very very keen to try and deliver naturally and docs were all v. supportive. I went into labour spontaneously but after 25 hours of contractions and 14 hours in the hospital the fight went out of me after only going from 7-8cm after one of their 4-hourly exams and I requested a section. Both my boys heads were never fully down allowing enough pressur eon cervix to dilate. They were keen for me to try and keep going until I got to 10cm and they were going to try forceps but all that would have meant was that I would have been cut, ripped to shreds and needing a section anyway with all the trauma that put on DS2.

BUT saying all that I was in ward with 3 other c-section ladies and I was only Mum that didn't have an elective and was first up and about, almost euphoric after it all. Don't know if due to releif of not contractng anymore (they were unbelievably sore) or if being in labour gives extra endorphines but from Head saying her elective wasn't rough this time round, its maybe advantagous to at least try and labour so your body is geared up for the onslaught .

In summary, I was glad I laboured, gave it my shot but c-section was best outcome for me and more importantly my perfectly round headed DS2 .

Hi Head and Jumping - good to hear from you both. What bottle are you using Jumping? I use 'Closer to Nature' as it has the softest teat (saying that I've not expressed for days, just no time at the mo').

Head - how is your DS coping with your DD?

How is everyone else? Helloooooo!