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Issys girls.....10 down, only 4 to go! :-)

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Bubblebell1 · 16/06/2009 19:37

So here it is... our shiney new thread... hope you all see it soon or i will be here all on my own.

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Sunnydale · 03/08/2009 21:56

Hello all. Bubble, sorry to hear AF arrived for you. Don't give up. We mustn't give up. Next month could be it!

Head, good to hear from you - how busy it sounds chez Fairy. Try not to worry about being 22 weeks - think how far you've come. Over half way! Brilliant! Good luck with the next stage, and the house.

Blue, the pub was nice, thanks. It was definitely good for us to go out together. Although I'm not sure my head can handle drinking much at the moment.

Talking of which... does anyone remember, after their mc's, whether their first AF was horrendous or worse than usual? I have been feeling brutally depressed the last couple of days, like my hormones are in a blender. It feels like really bad PMT, but I wouldn't think AF would show up yet, as I MCd less than 4 weeks ago. Honestly, I feel awful. Crying all the time. Really black. In a periody way, you know? I just wondered if this was "normal".

Went online and bought a bumper pack of OPKs, some Pre Seed and a saliva microscope thingy that detects fern patterns when you ovulate. So you see, I haven't given up, even though I am feeling pretty hopeless. Down but not out!

Hello to everyone else. Irish and Girl, hope you are both as ok as can be expected.

girlwithacurl · 04/08/2009 14:40

Hi all!

sunny I can't remember my first AF after MC being worse than usual, but I would have thought it would be pretty normal for you to be all over the place emotionally, I would expect depression and crying etc. after what you have been through, its still really raw and you need more time, especially as you haven't had as much support from your DP as you should. AF could be on its way, are you normally a regular 28 dayer? Glad to hear you are all kitted out. It does make you feel a bit better doesn't it, like you are making a positive step!

I still don't have any sign of AF, I thought I was ov'ing, but still no temp rise. Going to be a few more weeks yet I think. All though like you sunny have been feeling pmt'ish, not weepy, just irritated etc.

bluesatinsash · 04/08/2009 14:44

Sunny - great to hear you're going gung ho with OPKs etc. AF can be a bitch post-mc, although mine was fine post-ERPC but all over the place after natural one... Glad your pub sesh was a success .

I had my 20-week scan this morning and all well with baby blue . They were quiet so sonographer really took her time looking over everything and legs, arms, head, brain, heart, organs all present and correct . We don't get told flavour up here although DH was trying hard to find a willie (to no avail ) so we'll just have to wait and I like to be kept guessing anyway .

It was so lovely being back in that scan room the one with all the heartache, seeing a BABY in there, all kicking and waving, makes this torterous journey all worthwhile.

I've uploaded a scan and bump double photo, (only if your interested like ).

Love to all x

girlwithacurl · 04/08/2009 14:49

blue great to see the piccies, and glad to hear all is well!! so happy for you!

bluesatinsash · 04/08/2009 14:53

It can be done girl - just keep marching on. Its a struggle but please don't give up. I want to see you and Sunny and Bubble and Irish's 20-week scan photos up here too!

wasabipeanut · 04/08/2009 15:00

Hi everyone,

Well Head I think you trumped me on the longest message competition! Glad to hear things are going well for you in terms of your move (and best of luck with tomorrow) but am sorry to hear that your family forgot your birthday. I would be in the most monumental sulk if my parents forgot my birthday. Top marks to your DH though for taking you out and spoiling you.

I can kind of empathise with the fact that you are not entirely relaxed about this pregnancy. Sadly I fear that the answer to your ?when do you stop worrying?? question is ?When the baby is in your arms.? I have started to fret again because at the end of last week I didn?t really feel pregnant. I am 14 weeks now and in that quiet stage where the sickness peters out but you don?t feel any movements. Having an anterior plecenta would cushion a lot of movement ? a friend of mine had this and it seemed to drastically affect what she felt. When is your 22 weeks scan?

Best of luck with the move tomorrow and the following weeks after your DH?s operation. I share your enthusiasm for vac pack bags!

Bubble Sorry to hear AF showed up. Retiring to lick your wounds I think is a good plan. I used to find that gin, wine, chocolate and really low rent TV used to help me at this time. The order is of course up to you!

Blue Hope your scan today has gone/is going well. I will lurk for an update later. So much for this idea that you feel movement earlier in a subsequent pregnancy. I was getting my hopes up that I might feel something around 16 weeks or so as I was around 18 weeks with DS when I felt those little bubbly sensations. Maybe I should lower my expectations.

A VBAC would be my preferred option too but I don?t think my health trust really like the home birth option either! To be fair I think I would prefer to be in the hospital. I believe the recommendation is that you should be no further than 30mins away from surgical facilities and if and when we move, I will be so I think in my case the hospital route is the safest.

Sunny I?m sorry you are feeling so blue. My 1st period after the mc wasn?t too bad as it confirmed to me that I was functioning again and DH and I agreed to wait out one cycle before trying again. The next one however was brutal. I felt exactly as you describe ? my moods were black to say the least. I cried incessantly and went to a very dark place indeed. I had set my heart on conceiving again instantly and when it didn?t happen I was utterly crushed. The upside is that the one after that was a ?normal? period ? the spotting and weirdness stopped and it was on that cycle that I conceived again. There is hope I promise you x

Well I am feeling thoroughly grim today. Whatever DS was suffering with last week has now made its way to DH and I. The 4 nights of no sleep last week probably didn?t help. I am bunged up, my voice is almost gone (which made the case study interview I have just done a very interesting exercise) and I have the most horrid painful cough. Plus to add insult to injury I have also got an eye infection so I can?t even wear my contacts ? I look awful. The bunged upness has also made my sickness come back. Arse!

Hope everyone else is feeling more lively wherever you are......

HeadFairy · 04/08/2009 16:39

HI everyone, quick post before the computer is packed up!!!

wasabi Sorry to hear you've been ill, I hope it wasn't the dreaded you know what....
My 22 week scan isn't until the 24th August, feels like an age away!! I think I'm getting some squirming and some tiny movements, but it's hard to tell. I'm so busy at the moment I don't get a chance to stop and think about it, and I fall asleep so quickly at night I don't get a chance then either. If this little fella is kicking me at night his mummy's far too tired to notice

Blue great to hear your scan went well, it's so nice to see those legs and arms waving about!! Lovely pic by the way. Oh and the scan pic ain't bad too There's no way you'll be getting a naked bump picture from me, it'll be heavily disguised by layers of clothing to hide white flabby tummy!!!

sunny I don't remember my first post mc af being particularly heavy, but I did have the most terrible pmt, lots of aches and pains and really strong ov pains that lasted a few days. Very unlike me because I normally have pretty ok-ish af's. I was really spotty too, grim!! I'm sure it's quite normal to have a slightly odd af after a mc so I wouldn't worry too much. My first af after both mcs was exactly 4 weeks so you could well be about to come on yourself. I always took it as a good sign, to me it meant my body was still working properly so I felt quite reassured I slipped straight back in to my normal cycle immediately. I hope you are too. My prescription would be lots of chocolate as it's the only way to deal with the af from hell!!

bubble so sorry to hear af arrived, please come back to us soon

I've got to dash cos we're going to ferry everything we need for the next 8 weeks over to my sisters now... have a good evening everyone xxx

irishmumwannabe · 04/08/2009 22:14

Hey everyone,

just a quick one - blue your pics look fab

girl and Sunny hope you are both keeping well.

wasabi hope you feel better soon

Head good luck with the move(s)

Bubble sorry to hear AF came - hope you ar feeling ok.

Haven't been lurking and not posting -
we've had the launch of the new system in work - I did a 16 hour shift yesterday and silly hours for most of the weekend - and to make it worse it was a bank hliday weekend here but it's in now so I can catch up on sleep, mumsnet and real life now thank God.

So hope you are all ok and anyone I'v emissed Hell!

Talk to you all soon

Oh and DH and I are going to get back to ttc asap - have ov sticks left from the last time so might put them to use and see how things go. Fingers crossed.

irishmumwannabe · 04/08/2009 22:15

Obviously I meant Hello I am such a muppet for the spelling - thank God for spell check in work.

JumpingJellyfish · 05/08/2009 10:44

Just popping on quietly while sitting at my new desk...

Irish I am so, so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you. I hope in a way working so hard has kept your mind off it all, and you get back to TTC asap!

Girl, I know this is very late, but I was so saddened to read the news of your ectopic. I hope you are managing to somehow stay positive, and can start TTC again soon. Huge hugs.

Sunny how are you and your DH bearing up? Hope the AF-from-hell passes as quickly as possible. Definitely agree- chocolate and wine are the best solution (maybe not wine at this time of the day though... ) FWIW after each of my DCs, I had the worst periods when they returned, very heavy, often much longer than usual, and very emotional. But I'm incredibly fortunate not to have had a mc, so not sure if it can be that way too.

Head good luck with the move!

Blue love your pictures! The 20/22 week scan is wonderful with the detail that can be seen- I found I was very anxious leading up to mine and it was such a relief once the sonographer finally got through the ever-lengthening list of abnormalities they now check for.

wasabi hope you are feeling better today?

Big hello to everyone else- hope you are ok bubble and feeling ready for the next cycle...at least the clomid seems to be stimulating ovulation, so really hope next month is your lucky one xx

Love to all x

JumpingJellyfish · 05/08/2009 10:49

PS. I would have liked to try for a VBAC too, but sadly got told that it's out of the question for me- I hoped for one last time but my blood pressure had other ideas, and as I've now had 2 CSs, and too bad a BP history, they just won't risk it. Sad that I will never even experience early labour, feel in some way a bit diminished- crazy I know but it'll be strange to have had 3 children (fingers crossed) and not had even a shot at giving birth naturally. At least in a way we should be able to prepare for the inconvenience of not being able to drive etc... and I'll know what to expect with a cs... The latest they'll let me go is 38 weeks (around the 23rd Nov) so can make some plans, hopefully BP will let me get that far!

wasabipeanut · 05/08/2009 14:54

Oh Blue congrats on your scan! For some reason when I posted yesterday I couldn't see your most recent post. I looked at your pictures - your bump is looking mighty fine! Worryingly mine doesn't seem much smaller and I am a good 6 weeks plus behind you. I think perhaps mine is more cake related. Also looked at your older pics - your DS is just ridiculously cute. I am getting so mushy over baby pics at the moment. My friend who had the 2 hour birth last week sent some of her new one over - utterly scrumptious. I've also got a newish (will be about 4 weeks or so) nephew to coo at for the 1st time next week!

Head Good luck today!

Irish Best of luck stepping back on the horse so to speak!

Well, day 2 of the lurgi has been pretty grim. I am feeling very sorry for myself. My whole head, even my cheek bones ache as it is all so bunged up and of course the usual lemsip and sudafed combo is out of bounds. And of course this is the week when I suddenly have loads of work on.

Arrgrgghhhhh.

bluesatinsash · 05/08/2009 14:58

Hi Jumping - how's the new job going? Hope you've got a big corner office with a view . I know what you mean about feeling 'diminished' about not delivering naturally. I had a mega diva strop last time when I was instructed to get up on bed for epidural as knew it was the beginning of the end of my natural labour (I had been labouring for 30 hours by then part at home, part on ball in labour room with gas and air all very natural, with cd playing in background etc. etc.). DS was not for coming, hadn't engaged and head was at an angle so I am hopeful for VBAC this time but won't beat myself up if I don't. They say its just like shitting a massive poo anyway and I've done lots of them recently . Hope your BP behaves itself over the next few months.

Irish - so lovely to hear from you and glad you've been busy at work. I think jumping right back in to ttc is the best way to go and really hope your BFP is just round the corner.

wasabi - I wanted to wrap you in a big blanket yesterday, poor you! FWIW I only started feeling flutterings last week and didn't until I was 22 with DS. I've got the lurgy of sorts too - shingles! Thankfully mild patch left of left boob but they are really sore . I'm off work today as had no sleep last night, felt like I had really bad sunburn, and DS decided to wake up at 5.45am this morning. Thankfully he's at Grannies today so I'm working from home and 'airing' my rash.

Head - hope all's going well with the packing, don't lose the IO top in the move . Can't wait for your 20-week scan and see if I'm right in my predicition

Issy - how are you, any more purchases going down your way?

Sunny - has all your ttc kit arrived?

Girl - how's your temp today?

Bubble - hope TEW is on her way out and the clomid is setting you up for a BFP later this month.

bluesatinsash · 05/08/2009 15:03

Sorry wasabi x-post. I'm all a gaga over newborns too, not had my hands on any for a while though... Thanks for kind comments on DS, his little brother/sister has big boots to fill in the cute stakes!

Its rubbish not being able to take anything, what about some hot water with lemon and paracetemol? I've had to succumb and take some parac as my rash is sooo nippy.

wasabipeanut · 05/08/2009 15:46

Oooh Blue I feel guilty for moaning now - shingles OUCH! Yes, I have succumbed to some paracetomol as I read it was safe and I am feeling so shit that anything will be an improvement.

I hope you are feeling better for a day at home. I have just had some late lunch in the form of some Heinz tomato soup and marmite toast which is my cure for everything. Am just about to progress to some nice fresh berries with ice cream to ease the fire in my throat and get some fruity goodness.

I know what you and Jumping mean in the whole missing out on the natural birth gig. I was induced with DS because my waters leaked and no sign of labour after 3 days meant I was on the clock big time. I put up a fight because I knew the odds of a successful induction were slim (my cervix was still not ripe - in fact it was still facing backwards!) but they kept going on about risk of infection so I felt as though I had no choice. 18 hours later I was told that I was "failing to progress" and that an em cs was the only way forward. I held out against the epidural for 9 of those hours but eventually cracked - gas and air and breathing techniques ain't much use against synto induced contractions. I beat myself up for a long time about "caving in" to an epidural and blamed myself for the eventual outcome. With the aid of my hypntherapist I am now of the belief that I made the only choice I could have based on the info I was being given at the time. I don't blame anyone anymore and I lost the anger and guilt but I'm buggered if I'm being pushed around like that again. If there are no complications and a VBAC is feasible then I want to make sure it has the greatest chance of success - which means no to the canula, CFM etc.

Sunnydale · 05/08/2009 18:50

Hello all
A quick post as DD is engrossed in Charlie & Lola.
Wasabi sorry to hear you have the lurghi (sp?) - hope you don't feel too grim. And you too, Blue - never had shingles but they sound nasty. But hey, what a lovely bump you have! And a lovely scan pic! That baby looks healthy as healthy can be. I'm sure I won't be the first to say it, but how much does your DS look like you?! He's a replica!
Irish lovely to hear from you and glad you have such a positive attitude to ttc. Boo about your long work hours, though.
Thanks everyone for your advice and thoughts on AF after MC. Sadly, despite the world's worst PMT, bloating and crop of acne, AF is still nowhere to be seen. Instead (TMI alert) what did I notice when I went to the loo but loads of EWCM! Not the pre-AF kind but definitely the other kind. PMT before ovulation is a new one on me - POT (pre-ovulation tension), anyone? You know, I'm half tempted to do a little BD tonight - nothing to lose, after all, so why not chuck a few swimmers up there and hope for the best? This after all my reading and advice to Girl to wait a cycle. Hmm, maybe I shouldn't. Not sure which is worse: the 2ww or the post-mc-waiting-for-a-period wait.
Hello to everyone else [waving emoticon - think MN should add one to the list]

bluesatinsash · 05/08/2009 20:48

Hi Sunny - hope your DD enjoyed C&L - I love the theme tune .

I say got for it, as you say it can't hurt throwing some swimmers up there . Have you bd recently so you know its definately not a BFP type of EWCM????

DS certainly has the strong blue family gene. We all have big features and lots of hair!

wasabi - hope the parac has helped. Yum to tomato soup. I know what you mean re: CFM et al. I will be drawing up my list of rights this time around before they attach/stick anything into/onto me! Its really to hear your birth experience caused you so much anguish. Really glad the hynotherapy helped and you have a gorgeous DS which is all we ask for . Hey maybe you and me will just pop them out a a la your friend .

girlwithacurl · 06/08/2009 09:29

Hi all.

sunny I would go for it if i were you, lots of people say you are more fertile just after a MC, can't do any harm!!

I finally got a temp rise this morning, so 2 weeks until AF. At least I can be pretty certain about this, however that will be 6 weeks since I had the laproscopy. Oh well, i guess my body just needed the time to heal.

Issy42 · 06/08/2009 18:48

Hi everyone. Just popping on quickly before I leave work as have company this evening so won't be able to get on later.

Sunny - the reason they suggest waiting a month before ttc isn't just for dating purposes it's also (sorry this is a bit grim) to make sure that there are no remnants of the mc left behind which could cause infection and therefore risk to a new pregnancy. I did leave the month after my first mc, but after the second I didn't as the mc was so early that I just got AF when expected. BTW I had AF exactly 4 weeks after mc started on the first one, but doc said it could be 2-6 weeks.
Girl - Glad you finally got that rise. Hope your body is good and ready for next month now.
Blue - lovely pics.

Sorry haven't had time to catch-up with everyone (hi everyone else). I had 16-week scan yesterday and I'll post more about that when I post properly but just wanted to say everything seems OK (researcher not a trained obstetric sonographer though), scan pics are on profile and it looks like Blue's prediction was right, they think baby's a girl.

Take care all, T x.

bluesatinsash · 07/08/2009 14:08

oooh Issy - loved looking at your pics and a girl too (well maybe). My predicition credibility is in your hands!

Issy42 · 07/08/2009 19:17

Thanks Blue - I can't stop looking at them. Glad you had a good scan on Tuesday - all your pics are lovely - you have a very photogenic family. Hope your shingles clears up soon. Celtic names are quite good for beginning with vowels - I'm going for Welsh names and nearly all my girl choices being with E or A and the boy's name back-up also begins with A.
JJF - Congrats on new job. Hope you're enjoying it. Can't believe you're juggling new job, house move, phd and being pg, we'll have to start calling you superwoman. I wouldn't hold too much store by the 'come on wee man' statement, the woman who did my scan on Wednesday kept saying he even after she'd told me she thought I was having a girl - I think it's their default setting. Hope your blood pressure keeps behaving itself and this is third time lucky.
Irish - wow you really do have a busy job. Don't envy you those horrible hours. I hope you're getting enough time to look after yourself.
Bubble - So sorry AF arrived, but great that Clomid has kicked in. Fingers crossed for next month for you.
Sunny - Seems you were also right in your prediction for me. Hope SATC and biscuits did the trick. Glad you managed to have a nice time with DH in the pub. I read an article recently which said that men don't want to talk they just want to do nice things together instead. Not great for us when we feel the need to get all the unsaid stuff said, but I guess they are just programmed differently. My first AF post-mc was incredibly emotional - just the similarity of the two things brought the sad memories right back. Sending lots of hugs your way.
Girl - Hope you're coping with not being able to try this month and next month will be your month.
Wasabi - Sorry you're feeling under the weather. Hope you feel better soon. Remember that paracetamol has a lower risk than high temp, so don't be afraid to take it. Great news on the nuchal results. Hope you're damp and timber survey comes back with good news. Enjoy meeting your nephew next week.
Head - Happy Belated Birthday! Hope the first part of the move went well and you've managed to smooth things out with your sister. Try not to worry about lack of movements, woman who did my scan Wednesday said some women don't feel anything until 24 weeks! In answer to at what point do you stop worrying, well there's the anomaly scan, then 24 weeks (possible to survive), then 28 weeks (likely to survive), then 34 weeks (more likely), then 37 weeks (considered term), then birth, then cot death worries, then all the other worries for the rest of their life - the goalposts just keep shifting . It does seem to get easier with each milestone though. I remember thinking in the early weeks that I wasn't going to be able to cope as a mum because the worry was driving me crazy but am actually starting to enjoy it now.

No more shopping sprees from me. Now have 3 maternity tops, a pair of leggings, combats and jeans - though have to decide whether to keep jeans, they adjust really well (side pocket stretchy stuff with elastic with ~10 buttonholes each side) but have front button which I think may get uncomfortable. Have only worn one of tops so far as trying to hold out as long as possible. I also won £76 on the lottery the night before I bought the watch I couldn't afford (although didn't realise it at the time) so can now enjoy the watch guilt free as it was £80 after all the discounts. I say guilt free, I feel a bit guilty that the number I didn't notice I had was baby's due date - shame on me!

My scan was great yesterday. The woman is a researcher not a trained obstetric sonographer so I don't know for sure that everything's OK but she couldn't see anything that stood out to her. Baby was keeping her legs firmly crossed during the abdominal scan, making it very hard to determine gender but she moved when I went to empty my bladder (she emptied hers too - how weird is that?) before the dildocam bit and then couldn't stop flashing her bits, so pretty sure she's a girl. I'm being over cautious in saying 'they think' when telling people just in case it's a boy and also to avoid her having an entirely pink wardrobe. She was thumb-sucking, waving, hiccupping and crossing and uncrossing her legs a lot which was very cute. I still can't quite make the connection that those movements are going on inside me though, I think I need to feel them before that'll become real. I keep finding myself suddenly realising that I'm having a baby even now. One day it'll sink in. Have to wait until I can speak to a native Welsh speaker before deciding on her name though - I had a definite one for a boy. Thankfully one of the researchers is from North Wales and she will be at my next scan on 9th Sept. Unfortunately they have enough data for the research project now so I'm not getting the scans at 22, 26, 30, 34 and 37 weeks now - just the one on 9th and my anomaly scan on 3rd. Grateful to have the extra 2 so far though and at least I won't have to suffer the nerves that build up in the week before.

Hi Sif, Suzi, Wishing and Rip if you're still lurking.

bluesatinsash · 10/08/2009 19:41

Gosh Issy - think your mega post has frightened everyone away . All threads seem to be quiet just now, must be the hols...

So lovely that your having a girl (well as sure as you can be). I got my new autumn/winter 'mini boden' catalogue the other day and the girls clothes are gorgeous as are the babies - drool!

I'm sorry if I should know this but are you Welsh? Or do you just like Welsh names?

I need to get more mat trews as am wearing my velour joggies to the ground already. Hav elots of skirts for some reason but hardly any summer trews.

Hope everyone else is well, come back and post soon!

Issy42 · 10/08/2009 21:25

Hi Blue - well I was wondering . Think I gave Head and Wasabi a run for their money with that one. Yes, I'm Welsh, but I don't live in Wales anymore unfortunately.

With you on the maternity wear. Most of my skirts still fit at the moment, but I can only get into 1 pair of trousers and they're quite thick. Determined not to buy work maternity wear until the autumn though.

Had mw appointment today. Heared the baby's heartbeat for the first time . Womb is already at my belly button though (I'd read that happened at 20 weeks) and she noted my fundal height as 18 which I noticed just now is ~90th centile . Might have a big one in there! Hoping it's just fluid or the fact that I'm short. Mw certainly didn't seem concerned. She said my weight was fine too, even though I've only gained 2lb so far. Have really low blood pressure though, which explains why I feel faint so often.

Sunnydale · 10/08/2009 21:53

Hello all
Just a short one as I'm only bloomin' ill again. Been in bed all day with the squits. Same hideous squitting-every-10-mins-for-8-hours that I had when I was pg, a mere 7 weeks ago. Hideous! Can't think what is wrong with me to be so pooey this summer. Hormones? Dodgy salmon?
Anyway, just wanted to say well done to Issy - fab and gorgeous scan pics. Are they special 3D ones or something? They look a darned sight more impressive than any I've seen, other than those of Suri Cruise (or did I just read about those? Probably...). Glad you are feeling less worried now, though as you say the worry never stops, so we may as well get used to it! So cute it's (probably) a girl! I have a girl. I love my girl.
I must say, I didn't realise you were supposed to wait to ttc after mc in case of "lingering tissue". Gross! Sadly your info came a bit too late for me, as we already BD'd once. Anyway, it's fair to say there's as much chance of THAT happening as Gordon Brown choosing a nice suit, so I won't worry too much. I did get a BFN two weeks after my mc, so hopefully everything is ok in there.
Hope everyone is well - it is quiet, isn't it. Girl and Irish, how are you doing? I found I felt worst a month after my mc, and was sure it was coz AF must be due, but nopes.. still waiting. Sending you much love, and to all the pg ladies too xxx

sifuentes · 10/08/2009 22:52

Hi it's mE still haven't got round to name changing which is a bit reckless but can't get on at work anymore and am crazy busy anyway.
But goodness it's all be go go go here. irish i am so sorry you had an MC. It's crap but you sound like you're keeping busy and staying positive which is great.
sunny i found i had a big down a bit after mine but i think it was also to do with the fact that i went very anaemic which was only picked up about a month or so later. It takes a wee while for your body to readjust. Pleae be kind to yourself until it does and with TTC like the others say it's totally personal. I wanted to wait cos I was physically a bit traumatised by the epic nightmare of my natural one, but I think a lot of people hop back on so to speak. Hope things are getting happier in your house again.

Can't believe how sick you have all been!

Head You too have been having a hectic time. No wonder you haven't felt kicks. I have felt a few but until today only when i really concentrate and have hand on tummy. IT's so lovely though i have a huge smile each time junior does his little swan dives or whatever crazy shapes he happens to be throwing in there.

Hope the move is not too horrendous and knackering.
bubble hope things good with you too. that clomid will work its magic soon enough don't you worry.

issy lucky you with all these scans. it must be lovely to get to check in so often.

blue gorgeous photos! I have a bump now too but it seems to change drastically in size as the day goes on. must buy some clothes.

sorry all a bit rushed as i keep promising will be back properly soon but only once work has died down alas.

oh wasabs i nearly skipped youoff the list! congrats on being 14 weeks. I'm sure you'll be feeling better by the day - just be happy about that rather than worrying. I have totally stopped worrying for the time being because i went for a private scan at 14 weeks having had a tiny bit of brown discharge and the doctor knew everything was fine before he even scanned me and i felt a bit of a fool. i'm just so happy to have FINALLY stopped being a chunder monkey. i can even stay awake til like 10:30. woo woo! Rave On.
laters chicas. PROMISE to be back properly soon xxxxxxxxxxxx

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