Feisty & Fabulous at 40+ - the continuing adventures of TTC

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Erm hope this will do as a continuation thread. Hello to anyone new to the thread. All welcome... xx

TFLS - if you think 11 in one year is bad you should work where I do. I deal with all the expectant and new mums in the business and at the moment I have 20 on my books.

Really feeling for you webby it must be very bitter sweet to have DS girlfriend preg. I think it will be lovely when he/she arrives though and you get to have loads of cuddles.

TFLS - my cycle was meant to finish last Sunday but what could have been AF arrived on the thursday. I'm at day 9 today and noticed that the CM has started so think I might be gearing up to Ov in next week.

I think the whole temp staying up and AF being short and painless might all be a trick to confuse the hell out of me. I suppose I could do another test though....

Also, I have to confess that the thermometer is an ear one so maybe not the best. Maybe I am just always at 37 degrees before and after Ov.

Have a good week-end all of you.

i think i'm going to give up on the temping as i think i placed too much emphasis on it this month in saying that i do love making the graphs and spreadsheets from them lol def have too much time on my hands

I keep saying I'm gonna give up on the temping too cos mine is so high all the time but then the alarm goes off and before I know it I've stuck the thing in my ear, "Just to see...."

Hi hippy chick
can be difficult. Just had her round for tea and she is getting quite big now. I do find it very difficult but put a brave face on for her. Sometimes have a few tears (like now) when i'm on my own.
But hay who knows what the future will bring. I can only keep everything crossed as normal.
As I am fairly new to the topic ovulation and checking temp etc.Can I ask someone to put it in simple terms to me how it works.
Needs to be really simple terms (OV for dummies version) please as brain tends to be quite slow these days.
Thanks

evening all. Luckywebby, here's a bit of an explanation. (Ladies, feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong.) CD1 is chart day 1, and that's the first day of your period. Your temperatures will go up and down a little within a certain range from cd1 until the day you ovulate, when the egg is released, and the lutenising hormone causes your temperature to shoot up considerably higher. It will remain significantly higher than the earlier recorded temps, although it will go up and down a little within that range, for however long your luteal phase is (standard is 12-14 days) which is when your body is producing progesterone with the intention of creating a good environment for the egg to get attached to/embedded into. Your temperature will drop the day before your period arrives. Luteal phases don't last longer than 18 days, so it your temperature remains high, or climbs even higher, it's pretty likely you're pregnant. I found Toni Weschler's Take Charge of Your Fertility absolutely invaluable. It hasn't got me the brass ring yet, but I now know a ton of stuff I didn't know before.

I love toni Weschler's book too. And Randine Lewis' book The Infertility Cure, because it shows you how charts look when you have a specific area that needs sorting out.It is traditional Chinese Medicine and acupuncture, and I love it! I really believe the acupuncture and herbs helped us have our ds at 41.
From what I have read you really need to take your temp orally or vaginally if you want a proper reading and you need to use a basal thermometer, which is different to a normal thermometer (I have no idea how they are different).
I should probably stay away from the thermometer too but I can't help wanting to have a modicom of control over ttc.Sometimes Ithink it causes too much stress, but then again I love the charts and spreadsheets too! I also love the interpretation etc you get off Fertility friend.
It is the weekend here and also school holidays have started, which is great, I get my DH home for two weeks!Maybe I'll get a little sleep in one day?!
Have a great weekend.Hope the weather is nice.

Thank for the info KiwiKat. Makes a little more sense now. I've read a few of the posts and felt a bit silly asking the question. As DH VR is not until Thursday will be a while before bd will take place and I think I've decided to try el natural for a while then try the temp route.
But thanks again it is definately clearer now.
x

I'm definitely gonna give up on temping cos I was using an ear/digital thing and my temp never dropped below 37 the whole time. I'm not gonna buy a fancy shmancy one - cos then I really would be 'hooked on temping'.

If I'm right I'm back to day 10 today and ready to start all the crazy stuff again

Hope everyone in England is enjoying this lovely warm week-end.

Luckywebby, temping doesn't tell you when to have sex to conceive, it tells you when the window has now closed for conception, and what, if anything, is happening in the next phase until AF arrives. When you're fertile, a cervical mucus is released that looks a little like egg white, is stretchy between your fingers and is the best thing to help the sperm up to where they need to go. That's the best indication (in my opinion) that you've hit the optimal time to conceive - temping really has nothing at all to do with that part of conception. The moment that your temp shoots up is like seeing the bus go past the stop - that was it, and the moment has passed - you've just entered ttw (the two week wait), which is the average time it takes until AF arrives, of you test and get a (with luck and good timing!) bfp.

Let's hope the lovely weather today bodes well for us all!

Hello. Got WOD today. Booooooooooooooo! Only a 27 day cycle too.

This is never going to happen and I'm fed up of it.

Sorry Fifitot. That witch is a bitch isn't she?

I am 14 cycles into ttc this time and it's a nightmare. counting the days to ov time, avoiding alcohol, having to perform to a calendar, popping pills and then spotting imaginery symptoms for 2 weeks, only to have all hope extinguised.

It's no bloody life is it.

hi everyone, what a day - have had an inkling of what it's like to have more than 1 - have step son (almost 16) here and also DS friends 1 x 3yo & 1x 5yo all day and for a sleep over. Fair play to all who have more than 2 - I haven't had a minute to myself all day, and they've only just gone to sleep, the 2 visitors v upset but v brave. It's been fab tho and def makes me determined that this month is the month for me!
Fifi bum, poo and the rest - it's such a horrible let down, keep going tho.....
Have started to temp, having read my FF lessons, but orally not via any other route, (in fact I know things move on but when I did my nurse training there was never any mention of vaginal temp - only the big 3: oral, axilla (armpit) and rectal ('up the wrong un'). These were of course in the days of Florence Nightingale before digital tympanic thermometers (ear) were even thought of ( hmmph in a grumpy old lady kinda way). )
Angifi where in WA are you? I lived there for a year long time ago
Hope everyone enjoys rest of weekend xx

Fifi, so sorry about WOD.It sucks.
Ddilemma, I'm down south - in beautiful Albany.It really is a gorgeous coastline, so many fab beaches.We live very near one with perfect white sand,aqua water and whales visiting. It is wonderful.
Where did you live when you were here?
Today I have the in-laws coming for lunch.It's 6 am and already I stress about it. Should just relax, they aren't that bad. However I secretly harbour resentment for my MIL as in the whole time since DS was born, she has not once offered to babysit.They don't live very far away, so that's not the reason.
Okay, enough ranting - best go and get organised.

Don't need to post anything - Fifi is inside my head!

FIFI sorry to here that i know how you feel ttc no3 on cycle 12 now and slowly loosing the will been very emotional all day and poor DP doesn't know what to do did get a lovely bunch of flowers and a rather big bar of chocolate though just came back from shopping and broke down because there seemed to pregnant women everywhere and had a serious the world is against me moment composed now and ready to eat a lot of choc and watch a good weepy so i can cry without anyone asking questions

Hi everyone,
Fifi booo to the WOD! It really isn't much fun is it! All those supplements, and being careful all the time, 'just in case'.
Don't really know what to say, just don't give up, it can still happen.
Dilemma, thats sounds hilarious - the sleep over. What were they being brave about?
Earoma did AF arrive, sorry I don't remember you saying.
Huuge hug to Kiwi, Tetley, Rock, Pat, Fruit (where are you?) Summer, Grownup, VSH, Angi, Peasoup, just everyone.
Wah, have stinky cold still. Is anyone else ill?
Has the ill season started?

Hey Ladies
Yeah Rowing I have had that rotten cold been laid up for a cupla days. Just coming to the end of AF aswell so not much goin on here.
I've added another supplement to the already ridiculous amount of stuff I take. It's called 'SHATAVARI' spose to aid fertility or so I'm told. So thats now
1 x Zita West prenatal
1 x Zita West DHA
1 x extra folic acid
1 x L'arganine
1 x zinc
1 x B6
1 x calcium/magnesium
1 x Shatavari
1 x bottle of red wine for when AF shows (he he i just added that one)
I also temp and am a member of (fertility friend) same as you Angifi - xcept I don't post much.
Do you know when I fell for each child I was smoking (gave up 5 yrs ago)tho I stoppd whilst pg, never took any vits ...blah blah .. now I'm frightened to drink in 2ww, worried about what i should eat, POASing on anything resembling a stick, checking CM constantly...biting DHs head off at AF time then turning into some sex siren vamp at OV time WHATS HAPPENIN TO ME ?? xx

fifi - I share your pain. Had a big temp drop today and started spotting so pretty certain the witch is arriving here too (early as well....). Real downer is I was secretly thinking that I was pregnant as had loads of symptons in the last few days. It sucks. (sorry for the pity party but hit a real low this weekend). God I'm fed up of trying.

Well as far as I can see Muchlove you are in just the right place and apart from a different set of supplements now including "Tin Hee Pills" I'm right there with you and I'm sure quite a few of the others. Oh we do so want these babies to show up///

as they say BABYDUST to all.

TFLS Sorry to hear that AF is heading your way you mustn't give up though it will happen do you put a cushion under you after the deed? Do you have a tipped cervix? Keep going at it and stay positive but there's nothing wrong with a little Party now and again - here's a big box of choccies to pass around.

Muchlove, I laughed out aloud when I read that last bit of your post.It is such an apt description!
God only knows what is going on in my body.Today my temperature jumped up.It is so weird...but not going to dwell on that.
I had a "baby reading" done by Cheri a while ago, and she said she saw a September conceive/bfp/birth, so I emailed her when I got the false positive and got another reading and now she says December. I had a reading done before getting preg last time and she said July.He was born in August o it wasn't far off! It's just a bit of fun, not to be taken too seriously.Has anyone else had this done? She does free readings and you can pay for a more detailed one.Just google Cheri22 if you are interested.
Muchlove - my list of sups is as follows:
Blackmore's pregnacy and BF gold
B6
Starflower oil
evening Primrose Oil
Fish oil
Magnesium and calcium
Vitex
Vit C
Raspberry tea
Red clover tea
I have to spread them out over the day or I'll gag!
I sometimes think I should go into the fertilty business - you'd make alot of money wouldn't you? When I think about how much I spend and there are millions of others like me...
Summer, thanks for the chocies - yum!
Hang in there ladies - it's going to be worth it.

Hey Lovelies
Yep Angifi I had a Cherie and a Ruby reading done back in April and they both predicted a BFP June - August and a GIRL. I got my BFP in end of June but MCd in July/Aug. Anyway since having this reading I have now become a bit of a psychic nutand saw a very good psychic face 2 face who told me that a little girl was on her way (didnt kno I was PG at that point) but she also said about a MC and then went on to say I would have 3 more (unless there were twins). But its all got me in a bit of a spin coz Im thinking now that could mean lots of MCs coz there is no way Im gonna have another 3 at my age. So Ive got about 3 different appts with psychics now . My husband truly thinks I have gone mad!!!
xxx
ps look who has discovered the smilies link

hi rowing boat yeas AF arrived on fri hence the flowers and chocs have an appoint for my HSG on friday has anyone had one and what was it like am very nervous about it