Feisty & Fabulous at 40+ - the continuing adventures of TTC

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Erm hope this will do as a continuation thread. Hello to anyone new to the thread. All welcome... xx

Thanks for the chocs summer - immediately scoffed! No cushion (does it work?) and no idea re the tipped cervix (off to google). To be fair this was only my third cycle since m/c and the first one where I'd ovulated. I had been quite chilled but the false symptons had raised my hopes. That's life. I keep getting shorter cycles post m/c (24-26 days) - not sure what to make of that?

muchlove - do you rattle when you walk? . I have the bottle of wine in the fridge ready, per your list, as AF has arrived today. Got to be some upside....

Not sure I dare start getting readings! A whole new avenue of obsession opens up.... I did have one years ago who said I'd have 2 children and live abroad...

Sorry to butt into this thread, especially as I'm around a lot elsewhere on MN , but just in answer to earoma, I had an HSG a few months ago and it was absolutely fine - just like a smear, but almost easier (though perhaps because I was expecting worse?). And so quick. A complete breeze, in my experience. I did have some cramps for a couple of days afterwards, but apparently this is unusual, and they weren't bad at all anyway.

(I'm 37 so shouldn't really be on this thread at all, but have been TTC for four years (and about to go on waiting list for 1st IVF) so nice to hear about some later pregnancies from many of you.)

Very best of luck everyone TTC.

thanks for thatlevistubbstears its good to hear from someone who's already been there done that it was when the nurse told me to make sure that i took painkillers before the appoint because it can be painful that i started to worry but you've put my mind at rest

Hi ladies

I'm new to the site. I'm 43, had 2 mc (Nov 08, Aug 09) and partner has left relationship. Not a happy time, but reading your messages really does lift me - thanks! Take care. Jas x

Thanks ladies. So nice to know I can vent and you all understand.

Doing a car boot soon so boxing up all my lovely baby stuff......It has to be done. I can't hang on for it forever and if I did get pg again, I really wouldn't mind having to start from scratch on the equipment front. In fact it would be my very last thought!

BTW Jasmine - hello!

Hey there TFS don't worry bout the shorter cycles because you have more chances to get PG that way (don't know how that works mathematically) but it sounds brill doesn't it, I just kno there's some logic in there somewhere
EAROMA I think it spose to be very good having HSG because it kind of clears thing thru making a BFP very likely afterwards ??
Hey JAS blimey you have been thru the mill I am sorry for your losses It's a crap place to be in(the arena of grief)I was in there for a bit but couldn't take it for much longer so got my arse outta there. There's only one healer in this game and that's TIME but your in safe hands here we will look after you xx
SUMMER You have gotta explain them 'tin hee hees' they sound fantastic I'm sure I could make room for them aswell
love to all

Hi. Been away for awhile... just basically down in the dumps and generally getting on with life. But I have been keeping up the foul chinese medicine teas, and feel really amazing with it. This month my CM (sorry for TMI) was incredible - just loads and loads of eggwhite, maybe 10cm long. Good sign hopefully?
Back to the chinese doc next week, when this bag of stuff is finished. And by the way, I've also lost a stone! (Maybe side effect of chinese medicine?)
Angifi - it was you who got me onto the Infertility Cure. I see you're in Albany -- I'm in London but I'm from Margaret River!!!!!! That's home and all the family are there! The power of the internet. Maybe we can meet up, hopefully pg, next time I come home (probably next Easter)!

Just on for a second and will post tomorrow wanted to say Ouch and hello to Jas that's a lot to cope with all at once I don't have any wise words but I do feel for you at this obviously very difficult time. Are you considering ttc again hence finding this site? Feel free to smack me with your handbag if that's very insenstive.
Fifi I put away a load of DD's stuff the other week thinking well I hope it's not out of fashion in a couple of years. Still clinging on to it though.
FLS tipped cervix means doggy fashion is best to concieve swimmers have less to swim
Muchlove Tin Hee pills are from Hong Kong was hoping someone could give me the gen on them very inscrutable these Chinese
LOL to all

thanks muchlove i hope so if nothing else its another thing ticked off our list as to why its not happening for us.
hi Jas sorry to hear you're having such a horrible time but just to echo muchlove time is a great healer and if ever you need to rant and rave go ahead we'll be here x

Grownupbabes was about to reply to Angifi when I saw your post - I lived in WA for a year, worked in Albany (& Port Hedland & Pinjarra) & had good friend from Margaret River! I still miss it out there even after many years. We are hoping to go out next Xmas time (2010) The internet truly rocks.
Fair play for taking all the TCM, maybe TMi but v hopeful sign?
Welcome to jas, agree with Muchlove here is good.
CD 10 tomorrow, starting POAS & acupuncture and feeling positive - have also warned DH. he is delighted at the moment, we'll see how he is in a weeks time.
Not sure about getting a psychic reading - am terrified they'll say no more and I'll give up hope does that make sense?
Off to ice the halloween cookies I made today to practice - bat, ghost or tombstone anyone? xx

Totally agree DD I wish I hadn't gone to the first psychic now then I wud'nt be in this spin. I am not usually into all that stuff but its grabbed hold of me. The thing is it would be a lot cheaper for me if I just wait n see what my future holds .
I've got a couple more to see then I think I'll be all psychic'd out and have no choice but to see what happens.
Don't know if I have mentioned to you all before but reflexology helps immensely aswell especially if you explain its for fertility. I have just started it again and it totally chills me out
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Hi. Sorry me again asking silly questions as normal. You must get fed up with novices like me.
Angifi - I see from you long list of supplements (you must rattle when you move) that you take evening primrose oil. I took this regular evry day until about a month ago when I read that it should only be taken from first day of AF to OV as can cause cramps. Any advice on this one?
I just wanted to say i really enjoy reading the site and keeping up to date with everyone.I find it a great help and keeps me sane. Off to the midwife with DS girlfriend again this week (happiness and sorrow all in one).
Only another 11 weeks to go there. Who knows by then I may have some news for them. Fingers crossed.
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Angi and Grownupbabes - I was born in Perth, although I grew up in NZ, and love going back to visit my grandad and cousins in Mandurah and brother in Perth. Gorgeous part of the world!

Luckywebby, this site has been hugely helpful to lots of us, myself included, so ask as many questions as you like. That's what we're here for - and the support and virtual chocolate. CD27, low temp this morning and craving sweet things - looks like I'll be having an unwelcome visitor this morning.

Hope you're all doing well - Rowing, how are you? x

Hi everyone,
woah lots of peeps! I can't cope with this and head cold.
Earoma sorry I'm being a duffer asking you if you had AF when you already said. It's the cold, I don't think I'm usually that bad. [hopeful face]

Grownup hiiiii! [big double wave] How fantastic that you have lost weight and feel great and have incredible CM. It has to happen doesn't, after all that!
Do you mind me asking what you are actually taking, does it tell you on the bottle/bag/prescription? I wonder if you were slightly on the polycystic side, just wondering because of the weight loss - PCOS often causes weight gain, something to do with insulin. Just clutching at straws here.

Kiwi, thank you sweetie. I'm awright, part from the cold. How's the clomid? Is this the last month? Sorry I'm really a clothhead at the moment.

Waves to all
Hi to Levi

Just a footnote to earoma - I was panicking five minutes before the HSG as I'd forgotten to take the painkiller (they recommended it to me too), and it was absolutely fine even without them. You could take one just in case but I was ok without. Took some later on in the day for mild cramps but that was really it. Good luck!

Hi to all and so sorry Jasmine to hear your situation - must be very tough. Hang in there. MN is a great solace to many of us. xx

Earoma, sorry I forgot. I had an HSG and it was OK, didn't have pain killer and no major problems and it was very interesting. Nice to know what's going on TBH.
I think after I had to take some paracetamol and did have minor cramping for a day or two, but it was nothing that paracetamol can't shift.
The worst thing was putting on a gown and having to carry my clothes in a shopping basket into theatre - and a horrible nurse. But I don't think she works at your hospital, so you should be alright.

Earoma, sorry I forgot. I had an HSG and it was OK, didn't have pain killer and no major problems and it was very interesting. Nice to know what's going on TBH.
I think after I had to take some paracetamol and did have minor cramping for a day or two, but it was nothing that paracetamol can't shift.
The worst thing was putting on a gown and having to carry my clothes in a shopping basket into theatre - and a horrible nurse. But I don't think she works at your hospital, so you should be alright.

Wow!It is a small world isn't it? It is so cool to hear about fellow Aussies and visitors.Ddilemma - Pinjarra- what did you do to deserve that? Actually, at least it isn't far from other nice places!And it isn't the middle of nowhere.I once worked in Mt Magnet which really is the middle of nowhere.It had NOTHING, but it did have three pubs!It is a mining town and at the age of 20 I loved it as I was spoilt for choice when it came to men!!!
Grownup - you are from Margaret river - if we got chatting we'd probably know people in common! What brought you to London?Will you stay forever?

Lucky, I have heard the same as you about the EPO, but as I don't yet have the tww,I'm taking it most days!
Grown up -I'd love to know what herbs are giving you the fabulous CM.That's something that has disappeared over the years for me.I found grapefruit juice helps, and when ttc last time, used preseed too. Also used robitussin.Can't remember which days I took it - must have been a few days before ovulation. Who knows - if I'd done nothing, maybe we'd have had the same result? It certainly can't hurt.It also helps me feel I have some control.

I know how it feels to get rid of all the baby stuff. Before we had the vasectomy reversal, and my DH was saying "no way!" I remember bundling up the beautiful baby blankets I'd kept, crying hard, packing them up and giving them to my sister. I really didn't expect to use them again, and she passed them back to me for DS.
Actually I really enjoyed having to buy all the new baby gear - I hadn't kept anything as it had been 8 years.I really enjoyed ebaying for baby clothes. Since having my ds I have pretty well sold all his stuff on ebay as he's grown out of it. I don't mind having to get more should I ever need it!

Luckywebby I read on the article that kiwi found that EPO is good for CM and when I was preg last I spoke to a nutrionist who said to keep taking it in pregnancy. The reason they advise to stop after ovulation is because it contracts the womb but I don't think it can do that much - don't really know what to think there is always conflicting information on just about everything.[hmn]

Rowing sorry about your cold, here's a lempsip and abox of tissues. Are you counting down the days and ready with your basket?
Yes it is very busy here,nice to see everyone.

DD I'll have a bat please, I can hear your DH whistling from here! Do you want to meet up in a couple of weeks, my Mum is coming to stay next week (don't mention this around her she'd be horrified)

TFLS Definately pop a cushion underneath afterwards much more comfy than legs up the wall. Don't worry about the short cycles 24 is fine some have 21 days though I would say that is short.

Grownup Hello have you tested - all that CM with me it's a sign of a BFP. I should go and boil up another batch of twigs too.

I've never been to Aus or NZ but would love to go one day - they seem very right on countries anyone looked at Sharkey's I think she's a bit like the great Zita - unfortunate name though.

Hi everyone,
Just a quickie, wondered what you thought....
I recently bought some Dong Quai, didn't take it before because I tended to take ag. cast and didn't want to overdo thing.
However, I find that I feel depressed with ag.cast particulary in the luteal phase and really hate taking it. The reason I have stuck with it is because I was taking 1600mg when I got pg with DS, so I link the two in my mind. However, the big high dose was because of a very large fibroid, which I no longer have, so my hormones may well have been very different than, I think fibroids can change your hormones, or is that rubbish?
Still following this waffle?
So started taking Dong Quai a week ago, was feeling a bit depressed and lethargic, kind of hormonal. So thinking 'well I did take lots of hormones during IVF, could be that'.
Aaaaaanyway, I feel great on the Dong Quai, really good, it's like what I have needed. Wierd.
So I wondered if any of you had any experience of using it and that kind of thing.
The other thing is, when I was being monitored after a cyst I had, the gynae commented that my progesterone was very high after ovulation and that he thought I must have ovulated early. But I don't think so, so perhaps I have got slightly too high progesterone.
Apparently too high prog can cause lethargy [tick] low sex drive [tick](or is that just TTC ) and general rubbishness [tick].
Don't have any luteal phase defects, just can't get pg very easily at all.
Hmm!
Just wondering.
What do you guys think?

No idea, Rowing, but really interested to hear what everyone else has to say about this. I'm on the Ag Cast as well, and I get very bad irritability and depression about 10 days before AF. Would love to be able to kick that to the curb, and I bet my dh would as well. Every day is an education on this thread!

Hi all

Dong Quai complete mystery to me I'm afraid rowing.

CD38 here - still got 17 days to go to beat my previous longest cycle record. Hacked off as still having back pains and sore boobs (that's almost 3 weeks solid of it now).

Haven't taken DH to get TCM as he is now on long term sick leave with stress and we are coping on my salary and what amounts to diddly squat in sick pay. (Stress from constant threat of redundancy at work and the bullying of his team by DH's manager)

What with DH's situation, our upcoming move, our continuing failures in ttc, and what looks to be my moving rather closer to menopause than we had hoped, I'm feeling more than a tad strung out which just makes for one lovely big vicious circle.

Sorry this has all been me,me,me but it does help to vent. Good to see loads of newbies signing up for our big adventure and please don't be put off by the negativity in my post. If it's not happening for me it must be improving your chances statistically - or is that my muddled brain getting the maths wrong? Anyway here's hoping that you lovely ladies get some good news soon.

spiral you inspire us all with your first child.

I'm really sorry to hear you're having a horrible time. Your hubbie must be feeling rubbish - poor him, I really relate to his experience (which is why I'm self-employed now).

I wonder if the rubbish is what's holding your AF up? Women of any age can have missed/delayed periods as a result of stress. It's too easy for us older ladies to put probs down to our age - that's fear talking!

Hi all. Trying to get DH in the mood for a bit of very well timed BDing (day 13 and I have EWCM!)

Our 9 year old son is being a total pain - acting like a teenager and telling us he sooo hates us. We're both wound up like springs now and not feeling very amorous - arrgghhh.

Anyone would think he knew what we were planning and he didn't want a another baby brother or sister!

Must stay calm and try to feel sexy - haha

Hippy what a nightmare, children can be so draining. I screamed at my DS today when he shut me out of the kitchen with the fridge door. He was moaning and moaning and moaning and not hearing anything so I just shouted 'SHUT THE FRIDGE DOOR NOW!' He did do it though!
What time does your DS go to bed? Do you have time for a nice chill out afterward, just to make things a bit less fraught?

Kiwi there seem to be a lot of pills combining dong quai and ag. cast? Did you have much joy with your blood test results?

Mabh (is that ?)I agree, stress does cause problems with hormone levels, prolactin can rise which can lead to infertility.

Spriral vent away, I hope it helps! I do feel for your DH, a cr*p workplace is awful. My job is a bit tedious, but the people are lovely so no stress. It sounds as if you could both do with some de-stressing. A nice walk in the rain?

Will check out the Dong Quai thing. I have access to health and comp therapies journals through work so will see what I can find.
Took two Dong quai capsules mid afternoon and I felt a bit jangly afterward, so perhaps better taken in the morning. It says two capsules a day on the packet, but I suppose it could be am and pm.