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[Bucky2008]

OK, so how about we start of on a positive....

I bought the test.

I did the test.

BFP .

Job done.

MOB thanks so much for your response - it's much appreciated! I think my DH was worried about having no sperm, so this morning he seems a bit more pragmatic about his results. I think we will keep trying naturally (he's worked out how his results reduce our chances from the "20% for a healthy couple" - can you tell he's a maths whizz who works in IT??), while also going down the assisted conception route. We do have a chance of a natural BFP, but it's significantly lower than average, so I think I'd lose my mind waiting month after month for it to happen! Ironically, our one postive HPT result came after a holiday of everyday bd-ing. None of that for us anymore!

Anyway, I've got my driving lesson now and am then off to Oxford for the weekend so won't be back until tomorrow afternoon. We've got another Thanksgiving meal to look forward - I'll be rolling home to Brighton tomorrow!

Thanks again MOB and hope everyone has a good weekend

Caitni I'm sorry to hear that your DH's results have put you into a spin. Be very careful about googling for this sort of thing. I googled after my DH's SA and on some of the categories would have wondered if all was well except that the consultant took one look at the results and said "no problem there". Re the sex every few days, if I were you I think I would make an appointment at a fertility clinic and see what they think. They might have a different view about how often to have sex (I have seen lots of different opinions on the internet) and they might know other things that could be helpful. You might be a great candidate for IUI, for example.

MOB how is the nausea? You must be having a scan soon - when is it?

Mibbes I bet you are looking suitably lovely to meet your baby.

I am feeling fine but have failed to follow my own advice and have been googling about that "filling defect" that came up on my test. I think it is either a septum (which must be pretty small since noone has ever mentioned it before even though I have had a c-section) or a fibroid. The latter could also explain the spotting which is making me worried. Oh well, I am seeing the consultant on Monday so will be able to ask him all of this. I just hope whatever it is does not hold us up in ttc. I feel like we've been trying forever...

Are you out there Picknmix?

Have a good weekend, everyone.

Evening all,

I'm sorry to hear about your DH's test results Caitni, as MrsH says, prob best not to Google too much until you've spoken to your Dr about them. Not sure how it would work after what you're DH has been through but there are many things, diet wise, that can be done in order to improve sperm. My DH is on a diet of brasil nuts permanently and has stopped smoking, drinking (not completely but he has cut down to once a week) and takes folic acid and zinc tablets etc. I know it might seem futile but every little helps. Unless your DH already does all of this in which case please ignore me . Hope your weekend away takes your mind off everything a bit, xx

MrsH enough with the Googling !! Please wait until your appointment tomorrow before you panic too much, I do know how worrying it must be though so I really hope the Dr has some answers tomorrow. Is your DD getting excited about Christmas? It must be the first year she'll really understand it at her age?

MOB hows the symptoms? Hope all is going ok with you and your family! You always have such wise words for us all, thank you (in a hormonal soppy mood tonight!).

How are you doing Ei?

How are our pregnant ladies doing? Are you all prepped and ready and perfectly yummy mummyfied Mibbes??

Has anyone heard from Hatty or Abbymeg recently? Would love to know how they're doing

I've had a busy weekend, went to my Godsons 5th birthday yesterday then worked today. Am knackered and still no sign of period yet (cd38). At this rate they wont be able to fit my hsg in before Christmas and then who knows how long my next cycle will be!?

Had the most awful dream last night, woke up crying as had dreamt I was very pregnant and then had a miscarriage when thought I was going into labour. Think this is all getting too me far too much. Anyone know where the emotional 'off' switch is???

Good evening ladies

Caitni Hope you and DH are ok & that you had a lovely weekend in Oxford. How was the thanksgiving meal?

MrsH NO MORE GOOGLING We'll have to ban you! I know it's easier said than done though, and i am terrible too, what ever is going on in my life has to be googled! I'm really glad you have an appt with the consultant tomorrow. You can then ask away about the bit they found in your uterus. Could it possibly be connected to the c-section? I was just thinking that any wound will heal to leave some scar tissue - which this could be?? Crumbs - i'd better shut up, i've just given you something else to google Will be thinking about you tomorrow, and look forward to hearing how it goes.

PnM Sounds like you have had an exhausting weekend. I hope your period turns up soon, so you can have your hsg before Christmas. It's horrible having such emotional dreams, isn't it? Frequently during ttc i used to wake up crying after various baby / pg related dreams. Ironically i haven't had any baby-type dreams in the last 2 weeks! (They are rather more "raunchy" now )

EI Hope you are ok?

Yes, like PnM I have been wondering how abbymeg & hatty are. Also thinking JB - it's not too long to go for you either, is it? Hope you are enjoying your last few weeks of peace and quiet

I have started feeling decidedly sick over the past couple of days. Mornings are worst, but it doesn't ease off much. I have to say, though, i really welcome it, as a sign that i am pg and the hCG is (hopefully) on the rise. Just counting the days until the scan.

hi ladies
sorry for being awol for a few days
caitni sorry your DHs SA results werent too good but as MOB says you will get your baby and if it does turn out to be the assisted conception route then it makes your baby so much more special and miraculous and you will WILL be mummy caitni one day soon
MOB yay for the sickness and symptoms when is your scan? for some reason i thought it was tomorrow
PnM what an awful dream just a thought though... for the first 12 weeks of my preg with DD i had the most horrific dreams where i would wake up sobbing maybe it is time to retest either to find out or rule out a possible BFP (i still have a space open from the last batch of predictions)
mrsH im glad the HGC went well and you are pristine so now lady step away from google and maybe discuss anything you are worrying about at your consultant appointment next week
hello to mibbes i hope you had a lovely time at the hairdressers il bet you are a yummy mummy
hi to everyone else lurking who i have missed
n ot much going on here cd12 for me so not the right time for ov yet but it looks as if DH will be working away again this week and by the time he gets back more than likely ov will have come and gone (sods law) but either way im trying to focus on us and our DD this month and maybe get back down to business after the new year as chrimbo is a mere 26 days away happy sunday night all
xx ei xx

Hello ladies,

mrsH Glad to hear that the HGC went well and that your tube is clean and clear . I agree with the others re the dangers of googling. If it was anything to be concerned about I'm sure they'd have mentioned it.

PnM What a horrible dream. Sorry you are having such a long cycle, they're so frustrating especially as you want to get your HGC over and done with. I hope ei is right with her predictions though

caitni Sorry to hear about your DH having been so poorly in the past. It sounds like his results are pretty good when you consider he's only got half the production mechanism. It does mean the chances are a bit lower but it is certainly doesn't rule out a natural BFP. Good luck this month!

ei I'm really pleased to hear that your job is going so well. Hopefully that egg will hang around for your DH to return!

MOB Ooooh 6 weeks already. When is your scan? Nausea this early is such a good sign .

I can give you a quick update on some of us December graduates...

mibbes has gone in for monitoring at her hospital today as she might have had some of her waters break last night. Very exciting! I'm sure she'll pop in and keep you all informed.

abby is booked in for a section the same day as me, the 15th December! I started my maternity leave today so I have 2 weeks to get organised/put my feet up till the big day.

Picknmix I am sorry to hear you've been having such horrible dreams and hope that they are caused by something hormonal , as Ei suggests. DD is very excited about christmas, thanks for asking. She saw an ASDA christmas ad (the one with all of the christmas lights) on TV the other day and sighed and said "I want christmas now, Mummy". We're going to see Father Christmas next weekend - I really can't wait to see her face.

JB how exciting - not long to go now! It's extra nice that you know when your baby is coming. It sounds like we might all be cyber-aunties to a little Mibblet soon too.

Ei don't DH's have the best timing when it comes to going away over ovulation? On the bright side, it is when I thought that it was physically impossible for me to be pg that I got a BFP, so you never know... You do sound very philosophical - are you all getting excited about christmas?

Poor MOB, feeling sicker. I found that ginger beer was the cure all for that. Either that or (if you can bear it) flat coke. Hope something helps!

News from here is less than fantastic. The Dr looked at my HSG films and has suggested a hysteroscopy (basically a general anaesthetic, a camera up my foof and some scissors if they find anything to chop off). He is concerned that the filling defect is something (a polyp maybe) in my uterus that might have been acting as a coil and could have caused my ectopics. As I was seeing him privately I now have to go to my GP to get a referral so that BUPA will cover the cost, and the first time I could do it is around christmas (since it has to be between about day 6 and 11 of my cycle) so I guess I won't get my op until the middle of January. I know it sounds like no time at all but I constantly feel like my poor little daughter is going to be 15 before I get her a baby to play with. I so wish I could speed this up! Although half of me is thinking "be glad about what you have and forget ttc". If only I could...

hi ladies
JB oooh only 2 weeks ti wait for you im getting excited for you and mibbes bieng possibly about to birth her miblet its all go here
mrsH sorry your appointment has brought more bad news but FWIW i think this may be a good thing your consultant has given you a possible 'reason' for your eps which can now be fixed with any luck so you can now move on and have you much awaited bfp/preg/baby combo
hello to everyone else
im taking a duvet day today as DD has a chest infection and a bad cold and has passed the cold onto me so i feel as rough as a cats bum
still... only 24 sleeps left til crimbo so every cloud and all
xx ei xx

Hello cyber-aunties-to-be ! I am booked in to be unduced this morning, however contractions started at midnight - almost the minute I got into bed ! Managed to sleep through 1.5 hours of them but now they are every 5 mins (although only last 30 sesconds). Got bored lying in bed so am up and about and so glad it has kicked off by itself - not convinced the contractions are sore enough though , these has better not he BH !! will keep you posted

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Woo hoo! Lots of luck Mibbes! I'm so very excited for you.

BTW, this is what happened to me with my DD. I was booked to be induced and woke up at 2am that day to find I was having mild contractions and it was the real thing. Just think - in the next day or two you will meet your baby!

at "rough as a cat's bum" Ei. I feel slightly queasy after that!

YAY!!! mibbes you are going to meet your baby today this happened to me aswell with DD
i was booked for induction and my waters broke on the day before (i didnt even have the chance to shave my legs) i gave birth to her in the early hours of the day of the induction and had a phone call from the idiots MWs in the delivery suite where i had given birth asking me why i didnt turn up for induction!! i invited the MW in question to visit me in the post natal ward for a visit to prove i had had DD she didnt come she just took my word for it
good luck
xx ei xx

Mibbes OMG so exciting!! Lots and lots of luck for you over the coming hours. You're going to finally meet your little miblet - hurray!!!

I shall be back later to check in properly and see how everyone is.
xx

Just a quick post from me as am at work to say 'yay' re the imminent arrival of the miblet!!

Hope all goes well for you mibbes, keep us updated when you can, am so excited for you

Wow Mibbes I am so excited!!! Hope it all goes really well for you, can't wait to hear all about our little miblet

MrsH I am so sorry to hear that yesterday's appt didn't bring better news for you. it must be so frustrating for you. Just try to hold on to the thought that it is a good thing that they have now discovered this, and once they have snipped the offending bits out, you will be well on your way to your baby. Much love and hugs to you. XX

Hi to everyone else - sorry this is a rushed post - will be back soon!

Hello all! It's been a long time (as I have battled through finishing work and marking GCSE papers). I am feeling that I've been so rubbish at keeping updated.

I'm so utterly gutted to read about my cycle-buddy Bucky, and sorry I didn't get myself on here before in time to say goodbye properly. I read the first page of this thread and was so happy, and then the second page . It's really hard to know what to say as I know how long it has been and the things that she has been through. I just hope a break away might help move things on. I am sending her my best wishes, and if anyone is in touch please give her my love.

So I'm badly out of touch and I will endeavour to read up on what I have missed.

13 days until C-Day. I'm counting down with Jolly at my side!

Best wishes and baby dust to you all.

Morning ladies, I have some news for you all... Drum roll please....

Mibbes has had a BOY!!!!!

I'll copy out the text I had from them, then you'll all know as much as I do!

"Baby EVAN was born at 12.20am. He is 6lb 5oz and the spit of daddy! Ended up with emergency c-section after much panic but all ok now "

Poor Mibbes, I don't know what went on, but it sounds pretty stressful, although I don't suppose they care too much now as it seems everything has worked out beautifully!

MASSIVE congratulations to Mibbes, MrMibbes and their little Miblet! xxx

Yay for Mibbes. Huge congratulations to you and your DH.

I hope you're ok and taking it easy. And thanks for letting us know Kate. Abby I should be emailing Bucky in the next day or two and will send her your best wishes. Lots of luck to you for a nice delivery in 12 days.

Thanks for the news kate!!!!

Much love and congratulations to Mibbes, and MrMibbes of course. I am so excited that our miblet is here. . What a lovely name. Sounds like it was a bit of an awful time, but i'm so pleased to hear that you are both safe and well. Enjoy

MrsHappy Thank you for doing that.

Mibbes huge, huge congratulations and what a lovely name!

I was lurking around your thread after I posted for Mibbes earlier, and I read Bucky's sad news. I don't know much about her history, but I was shocked (and pretty appalled) to read what her gp had told her regarding ivf now they know she is able to conceive. I was also really sad to read that she seemed to be assuming the problem was with her ability to carry successfully. She may already have a lot of information, but if you think it would be useful when any of you are in touch with her by email, could you please pass on the following.

My DH's bf and his wife tried for about 3 years with no success. They didn't start trying til she was about 36. She fell pg a couple of times but suffered very early mc's. She was allowed one attempt at ivf on the nhs when she was 39 - in fact it was about 6 weeks before her 40th Birthday. It was a huge success and their little girl is now 18 months old. They've been trying again for a while. She's had 2 more early mc's, one at about 7 weeks ane one at about 10. They're planning on trying ivf again next summer, although this time they will have to go private. So far as I'm aware she was never told that the fact that she'd conceived previously meant she was precluded from nhs ivf treatment, although I know ivf can be a real postcode lottery still . They were treated in Salisbury in can anyone wonders. Really HTH in some small way. Kate xx

mibbes iv said it on emmsys but il say it again here CONGRATS on the birth of little EVAN sorry it had trauma and ECS but im sure you are recovering well and are smitten with your little man
ei waves to kate >
hello to one and all
abbeymeg nice to see you only 12 sleeps til you meet your baby
xx ei xx

Hello all

Mibbes I hope you are nice and comfortable and getting to know your wee chap. I'm made up for you.

Ei I hope you are doing well. Any sign of your egg yet?

Kate I will pass on what you have said to Bucky (when I get round to emailing her) too. Although the NHS might not spring for IVF I think they should at least be providing some sort of specialist care. If she hasn't totally had enough of ttc then Bucky might want to look at that.

MOB, PnM and Caitni I hope you are well.

Well I think I ovd today but there has been no action since Sunday. Last night my DH claimed to be feeling ill. [Grrr] I will try to see if I can get him to make the effort tonight but we'll see. Either way it sounds like there is no real point given my weird uterus. Ho hum. At least I can reintroduce myself to the lovelines that is red wine!! (Until I get my op... sometime in January).

Juts popping on quickly to say a massive congratulations to Mibbes, MrMibbes and Miblet

SO pleased to hear all is ok now, although it does sound like you've had a bit of an ordeal. Take care of yourselves, big cuddles to little Evan xx

Morning everyone,

Firstly massive CONGRATULATIONS to Mibbes on the birth of baby Evan!!! Sorry to hear about the ECS but hope you're enjoying these first days with your new little boy

MrsHappy so sorry to hear that the consultant has recommended a hysteroscopy . But at least he's found something - to think you had a lap and they didn't mention anything (I find that quite odd but perhaps I'm not understanding the range of these investigations...) - and it could well be precisely what's holding things up. And don't be too hard on yourself about the age gap between your DD and your future baby - think of all the time and attention you can lavish on your DD now and that when your baby is born she'll be old enough to know and understand (as much as a toddler!). Hope you did manage to catch the egg this month though

PnM hello . Has your period arrived yet? I'm still hoping you get your HSG before Christmas...

MOB so happy to hear your symptoms developing nicely . Not long now until your first scan - so exciting

Ei I just LOVE your new festive name! You always have the best names and I doff my proverbial cap at your imagination . Was also gobsmacked to hear of MW calling you about your induction when you'd just given birth in the same hospital . Any sign of ov for you yet?

Abby & JollyBear not long now before you meet your little babies!! How exciting

to everyone else

Not much going on with me this month. I ov'ed last Saturday, and we managed some good regular, every two days BD (including on ov day), so of course am hopeful. Though my chart looks so strange - very low post ov temps, even by my standards (I'm definitely not a toasty person). For anyone who wants a nosy my chart is here

Thanks for all the tips re my DH's SA results! I've had him on a cocktail of vits since mid-Sept, though he is now necking them with a lot more enthusiasm than before , so hopefully when he has his next SA there may be an improvement wit...we've decided there's no need for him to have the next SA til the new year, as we can kind of put everything on hold and just (try to!) relax over Christmas . To be honest, now I've actually seen his results, the only problem is the 13.5m/ml count - he even has more (just!) than the 40m/ml total recommended by WHO and all the other parameters are fine - so we both feel a lot more relaxed. He saw his oncologist on Tuesday and was assured that, for what he went through, his results are excellent (the oncologist, who I love btw, recommended he take me away for a holiday!! He may be onto something as the only BFP we ever got was after a holiday ). We're still planning to see a fertility expert at some point in the new year, so will just have to wait and see until then.

I've also got an appointment with a female GP on Tuesday morning, to see what she recommends re next steps.

Sorry for the ramble! Have been too busy to be on MN much over the past week