The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club

[Bucky2008]

OK, so how about we start of on a positive....

I bought the test.

I did the test.

BFP .

Job done.

Now for that long post I promised. Let's hope this one doesn't disappear like the last one, before I've managed to stick it on the thread!

MrsH - wishing you lots of luck on your first day in your new job. I hope you are settling in (and can check MN in your spare minutes ) and its as stress free as poss for you and the can-canning courgette. I'm glad your DD's birthday went brilliantly and she had a lovely day!

Caitni - I posted above, but I am all teary for you and so, so thrilled. I suppose the only key question now is......one or two?! I bet it's two, Mrs! How exciting! This is turning into a multiple birth thread with MOB and Readyfor2and3 both expecting double trouble and maybe you too . I hope you are having a marvellous day in the sunshine enjoying your anniversary and that your lovely DH is planning to spoil you rotten tonight.

Jollybear - how are you and your DD? Any other holiday (or even TTC ) plans?

MOB - how are your two little troubel makers doing? Any news on whether they are going to appear soon? Well done you for keeping them tucked up and safe for so long! LOL at being able to decide their birthday - "hmmm, can't do Tuesday because that's Yoga and I don't want to miss that new drama on BBC2 on Wednesday, so shall we pencil in Thursday then, hmm?" It is not long at all until you will have those two bundles in yoru arms and then the fun begins !

picknmix - LOL at your boss Ha,ha ha! In some ways, I suppose that's quite sweet that he is offering a sperm donation if you really needed, but how and weird too . Glad to hear you are feeling less hormonal now, but I totally get the hot flushes They are doing my head in and I keep leaping off the couch in the evening, throwingopen a window and gasping for air while fanning my face. I think they should die down soon, but they are horrid. You hang in their girl and make sure your DH goes to the car for you if you TELL HIM TO [grin. I have instructed DH that he will have to be nice to me when the stimming starts and super understanding if I throw a wobbly Oh, and I'm definitely on for a south coast meet up if there are any suitable dates?

Bucky - posted a big long thing about me going loco on hormones, so I can really empathise with the momentary madness. Glad to hear you are feeling less nutty now and i hope the janitor isn't feeling stalked any more What TTC news with you? Do you have an appointment at the IVF unit at Hammersmith today (or am I getting my days mixed up? Very possible!)

ei - hello to you too. Any updates?

I went for my query suppressed scan at the very unsociable hour of 7.40am this morning. better than last week in that (a) I am officially now suppressed (DH reckons it takes a LOT to put me down ) and (b) they did't have Robert Winston on Breakfast News on the telly in the waiting room banging on about embryo mix ups, childless heartbreak and failed IVF attempts . Everyone was sitting there shifting from buttock to buttock and looking stricken, but not daring to be the one who marched over switched channels to Mr Motivator. Anyway, stimming injections start int he next day or so - i am waiting to hear how much and when from the hospital when they call this afternoon. Looks like egg collection for the week beginning 5th July and transfer of blastocysts if everythign goes ok, on the week beginning 13th July

Being a lady of leisure is brilliant although how long DH will let me be one is a matter for debate . He's still away a lot, so I have been trying to catch up with friends as much as possible, which is great. I have been swimming every morning, bashing out 50+ lengths which should help me lose a few (much needed) pounds and I am feeling much better for (oh, and the cold water helps my hot flushes ). I feel that this time that I am relaxed and I can really concentrate on being as calm, fit and healthy as possible for cycle #2. I also think it helps that this attempt is in the summer - I know Zita West always recommends doing IVF in warmer months, if there is a choice.

My cousin's coming around for dinner tonight and I have spent ages making red pepper and sweet potoato soup, moussaka and chocolate pots with langue chat biscuits. I used to be quite a good cook, but when I was working mad hours I rarely had the time, but now I am a lady of leisure, I'm getting back into the kitchen and exploring my inner Stepford Wife

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Congratulations caitni and MrCaitni. I'm soooo pleased for you both. Have a fantastic day!

I really must go but will be back later to post properly. I just had to pop in and see if caitni had tested. DD is currently sat in front of Yo Gabba Gabba in her bumbo . She's never seen any 'kids' telly before (cricket with her grandad usually!), I must not let this become a habit .

GG Great news on this mornings scan. All systems go! Your dinner sounds fantastic!

Oh and I meant to say good luck mrsH, sorry. Hope your first day has been enjoyable.

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Congratulations caitni and MrCaitni. I'm soooo pleased for you both. Have a fantastic day!

I really must go but will be back later to post properly. I just had to pop in and see if caitni had tested. DD is currently sat in front of Yo Gabba Gabba in her bumbo . She's never seen any 'kids' telly before (cricket with her grandad usually!), I must not let this become a habit .

GG Great news on this mornings scan. All systems go! Your dinner sounds fantastic!

Oh and I meant to say good luck mrsH, sorry. Hope your first day has been enjoyable.

Ooops do pardon my double posting - one congratulation message for each mini caitni perhaps

PnM I just felt a bit about my chart reading skills. Very at your boss's comments! How v amusing. He sounds like he'd be supportive if you do need some help to get your BFP though, work wise that is, not seed wise! Are you in Manchester for long? If you are around for a few days let me know, we could have a mini meet up!

ei Any news from you?

mrsH How did your day go?

bucky Now come on lady, of course you are concerned about your appearance (what girl isn't!), if I had the money I'd be temped to a bit of botox myself. Is GG right about your IVF appointment being today?

R4N2 Awwww how lovely a boy and a girl. I can't wait for all these twins to arrive. 2 (maybe 3) sets on the same thread.

MOB When should we expect news of your boys? I'm v excited for you and your family.

GG I've been thinking about chocolate pots all afternoon since reading your post. So yummy. The waiting room tv sounded terrible. I had a similar thing when I was in hospital on the transplant waiting list and an episode of Holby City came on and you can guess the theme of the episode. Urgh, the rest of the ward wanted to watch it too, madness! Anyhooo, glad things are finally switched off, leaving you good to go. Lots of swimming and cooking sounds very relaxing. I love cooking which involves the gentle stirring of a pan, custard or risotto.

Sadly we have no pics of DD in the sea. I will post some soon of her attempts at eating though. She had a porridge beard this morning!

hey ladies
just a quickie to say...

WOOOOOHOOOOO!!!! caitni massive congrats!! i reckon its 2 in there aswell
GG yay for the start of the stimming
hello to everyone else
im only 8DPO oday so no news yet but AF is due on saturday so we will see we are off u to stirling on thursday for research for my sisters book meant to be meeting mibbes for coffee thursday afternoon
speak soon
xx ei xx

Morning all

Ei have a super time in Stirling (and say hi to Mibbes!). I'll keep my fingers crossed that you get that post-HSG magic BFP

MrsH hope day 1 of the new job went well. I always think the first day is quite tiring - all that trying to take in loads of info and all that! Sounds like your DD had a lovely birthday though it does sound knackering...

PnM I think your boss sounds lovely...although bet he's mortified at his inadvertent offer of his, er, "services" . My boss has been very understanding, so I think it's good that you have the flexibility to take time off for appointments/scans etc.

RFN2&3 hope things are good with you xx

MOB hope the boys are still growing away. I've got 10 July provisionally marked in my diary as "mad old chicks arrive" - god, if anyone ever saw it they'd think I was (in the words of the lovely Dizzee) bonkers!

Bucky I've no idea about botox and ttc but I'd be inclined to say do it. Keeping yourself happy is important as the "what ifs" are no way to live. And the first two weeks aren't so bad anyway (think of all those perfectly healthy babies born after their mums spent the early weeks of pregnancy drinking and smoking away!).

GG yay for the start of stimming!! Sending you lots of eggy vibes m'dear! I quite liked stimming (nursey cronin and her sharps box) mainly for the lying around with hot water bottles! at that playing in the waiting room btw. The radio was full of it as we drove to and from ET - cue lots of black jokes about us getting someone else's embryos from my DH - but the clinic was reassuringly thorough in all of its checks (although it was surreal when they waved the glass lid of the dish they'd been in in front of me when I was legs akimbo with the embryologist rootling around with his catheter!). And yum at your menu - you sound like an amazing cook! As someone who (literally) learnt to make French toast at the weekend I doff my hat at your expertise

JB bet your DD thought Yo Gabba Gabba was better than cricket (although don't tell her grandad ). I think those bumbo things are fanastic btw . And, sorry to be nosy (and feel free to ignore me ) but did you have a transplant? I'm very pro-organ donation (almost a bit preachy about it tbh!) and have been since I was about six and learned what it was about (that's when I freaked my mum out by telling her if anything happened to me she was to give all my organs away!).

So would you believe I'm now petrified of twins - typical eh? My DH can't understand it but then I was convinced that it wouldn't work where as he "thinks twins are more likely than not at this stage" (that's about as close he gets to saying he's convinced it's twins!). I'm booked in for a scan on 14 July so guess I just have to bide my time (and hope the next three weeks fly by!). I actually asked for one at 7 weeks rather than the usual 6 weeks, as I'd like to see a heartbeat(s) if possible. I'm going to see my GP on Monday too (mainly to try and get the rest of my progesterone on the NHS!). Still all feels very unreal to be honest.

Caitni Completely understand that the thought of twins is making you feel petrified (I still have moments of lip quivering lol)
I have always believed that everything happens for a reason so if it is twins then it meant to be
Hope the next 3 weeks flys by for you and trust me once you see that healthy heartbeat on screen it wont really matter if its 1 or 2

Hi ladies

Caitni Hope you had a wonderful anniversary yesterday!! Bet you and DH are still grinning. Oh, and it's not just twins you need to worry about... do you remember when i got my BFP, someone on this thread (can't remember who the culprit was ) pointed out that sometimes after IVF, embryos can divide, and lead to MORE than the 2 that were put back . (Don't worry... chances are v. v. v. small - DO NOT START GOOGLING!!!)I am touched that you have the arrival of the mad old chicks in your diary, and i am delighted that i should be back home by the time you have your scan, so i can be infront of the pc ready for news!!

GG Glad you are now nicely supressed . Have you started the stimming yet? Your comments about arranging the cs around tv programmes etc was very apt - i was devastated last weekend, when i realised that there is a grand prix on 12th July, when i will still be in hospital!!! ( i am a huge F1 fan) DH was a bit concerned about my priorities ) All the excercise sounds wonderful, and you sound so chilled, which is great.

PnM LOL at your boss!! I feel quite put out that mine never offered his services Poor man, he has probably cringed constantly when looking back at the conversation! It's a good thing he knows though, and it sounds like he will be supportive.

JB Can't wait to see the porridge face photo! The babies are due to arrive on 10th July by cs, as no.1 is breech. It could all kick off before, i guess, in which case i have to get there ASAP!

EI Am sending loads of positive vibes your way for a good result for you in a few days. All that effort deserves a reward . Say a big hello to mibbes - hope she's well. What book is your sister writing?

Bucky Don't you dare stop coming on here!! I would miss your posts - they are always so witty and well written. Hope you had your botox. I think it's so important that you continue to be "yourself" throughout all of this (as it is for anyone). However, i am now terrified of ever meeting you in RL as you will be so gorgeous and wrinkle free!!

I had my pre-op assessment today. All went fine, although the reality of having a cs has now sunk in. Still, the way they are positioned, it's the safest way to get them out. It's just the thought of all that time in hospital. I go in on a friday, and they said that because it's twins, i may not get home until monday or tuesday . i'd just rather be in my own home, than stuck on a ward. All that time without MN

the culprit was me. I saw one of those dreadful lite-documentary things called "Double Identical Twins". The poor woman could barely walk by 30 weeks!

Caitni it is bizarre you are now fretting about twins, since you had your not-so-secret twin aspirations for so long. RFN2 is right, if course, what will be will be, although my money is on a singleton. Not for any scientific reason, of course, but just cos I feel like it.

MOB are you ready yet for the chicks' arrival? Have you bought giant knickers for after your section? Have you had a section before? I had an emcs with DD so if you have any questions let me know! You might not be without MN, BTW- some hospitals have internet access through Patientline, and failing that can you get MN through your mobile?

GG Am glad you are enjoying being a lady of leisure and the cooking sounds very impressive. WIMBLEWAIF dinner at your place, I think. (Caitni- can you teach me how to make french toast, please? I reckon I would like it these days.) And good news re the being suppressed (who would have thought there was a context where suppression would be a positive thing?!). Hope the stimming goes well.

Ei have a good trip.

JB porridge beard sounds lovely. I love it when they are at that age.

Well I am knackered after 2 days of new job. Unfortunately my return to work has coincided with DD deciding that it is good to be awake and shouting between 2 and 4 am EVERY FECKING NIGHT. Fortunately with the aid of a sticker chart I may have cracked the problem, and not before time. New job is ok, but hard because it is a completely different role to my last one so a huge amount to take in.

Hello everyone,

MOB I cannot emphasise enough how you need v large highwaisted knickers after a cs. I got some that I thought would be ok and they were not high enough and rubbed my poor scar. I got some pregnancy knickers that I never wore all preg but did get use out of afterwards!

MrsH You must be exhausted poor thing. Hope that sticker chart does the job tonight.

Ei Hope your trip is good fun and say a big hello to Mibbes. I miss her! She hasn't been around for ages.

caitni I've heard that although twins are hard work at first they quickly start entertaining each other. V helpful when you eant to go for a wee in peace or make some tea I expect. I'm sure MOB and R4N2 will keep us informed.

I did have a transplant, yes. I mentioned it ages and ages ago, you may not have been around on the thread. I was worried that my various consultants might tell me not to TTC but happily of course, they said 'go ahead' and it wasn't a problem at all during the pregnancy. It just meant I was monitored closely and had to have a cs. Good on you for being pro-donation. People can be v squeamish about the idea and of course, I don't like thinking that I have someone's liver inside me but there isn't really a choice when you are so ill.

Anyway, must go to bed, night all.

Morning ladies

MOB I was giggling at your missing the F1 - it'll be a good story to tell them when they're older (and are probably F1 fans themselves!). A CS is a huge thing to contemplate but it sounds like JB and MrsH know all the (very big knickery) tricks in how to aid recover .

MrsH glad to hear the new job is going well, though you must be totally knackered. I hope the star chart has it cracked with your DD and her waking - thank god your first week back is four days as at least the weekend will be here soon and you can recover a bit.

JollyBear that is totally wonderful about your transplant - and I'm glad to hear your pregnancy and birth went so well, though it must have been stressful for you.

GG hope the stimming is going well

Ei hope you're having fun North of the Border

And big waves to Bucky PnM & RFN2&3

I was giggling reading about the twins dividing - I remember that! Actually, I came across a woman posting her experience on FF where both embryos split and she ended up with quads!!! And she already had two kids and just wanted one more to complete her family! So from 2 to 6 in nine months...now that would be scary! But, since I'm a google queen, I had googled all of this during our one versus two debate and the risks really are tiny so I'm not bothered about it (and nor should you be GG!). I'm over all my twin worry - I think it was actually just freaking out at finally getting pregnant. I spend so long friggin' hoping it'll happen and then I finally see the positive result and have a panic - strange! But RFN2&3 is right - what will be will be at this stage (but am back to hoping it'll be twins ).

937!! Almost time for a new thread! . So much has happened on this one its almost sad to leave it behind. What shall we call it? Shall we stay with the WIMBEWAIF club?

I am most amused by the incredible dividing twin debate. I'm not saying which was I'm placing my money Caitni but I'm sure you'll be happy either way and if not you can always give the spare one to me . You know I'm only one pram from snatching currently. .

My appointment wasn't today or yesterday although I did get my letter for the 'form signing' appt through from Queen Charlottes. GG my Body of Knowledge has informed me of the process and though I called her GG, Karen Nobbs has yet to call me back. Maybe she is on holidays. Anyway, my appointment is on the 15 July and then we will be on the proper waiting list i guess.

MOB sneak your phone in and take stealth looks at MN whilst you are away so we can send you goodwill messages and higs. How exciting, I have so many cyber neices and nephews now. Its good to know that you are all getting positive outcomes even though you have waited so long, it gives me a bit of hope.

I didn't have the botox, just had a feeling I shouldn't so went with it. Although when I get my holiday snaps back I am so going to regret it. Off to Austria on Saturday. The land of wind and rain apparently. Leaving behind the scorchio land of England....Great .

Anyway, just thought I would pop in and give you all a shout out. MrsH Hang in there. I hate the learning curve at the beginning of jobs/projects, but I always look back and think 'what was I so stressed about' and you know you will too. Although you don't sound overly stressed you cool dude you. .

Laters gators.

Evening all,

Am still grinning for you Caitni - it really is fantastic and you know that should the whole dividing twin thing happen, there are more than enough Wimbewaifers left on the bench to share them around (don't think you get first dibs Bucky, your loco behaviour doesn't give you special dispensation....)

Im currently sat listening to my husbands 'band' (I use the term in the lightest of senses) crucifying playing one of Snow Patrols finest... Its wrecking my concentration so apologies in advance for bad typing (although as anyone noticed how appalling my spelling is lately?! I realised I spelt courgette completely wrong - TWICE and also something else... I blame the hormones...)

How are you doing MOB? Can't believe you had a father call you about not inviting his son to your DD's birthday thats quite extreme! Hope the boys are doing ok and that your DD and DS are getting excited about the boys arrival!

Hope your first week is passing quickly MrsH, that new girl feeling is always a little odd so hope you settle in quickly. Oh, and hooray for the sticker chart and the consequential longer sleep!

How are you GG? That's fab news about the repression and the start of stimming. And the 5th is pretty close so will begin the eggy thoughts for you now! Your cooking sounds amazing - I'm a bit rubbish when it comes to cooking so am fairly of your ability . Speaking of which, tis mine and DH's 5th wedding anniversary next week and I still haven't got him a present.... I thought maybe a kitchen knife set (supposed to be 'wooden' so would make sure it was in a wooden block!!) - does anyone know anything about kitchen knives?!! I'm thinking Henckels but don't really know....

How you doing Ei? Hope you got to meet up with Mibbes and send her a big hi from all of us?! Did you get a cuddle with little Evan as well???

Pleased you were able to make a decison re botox Bucky. Austria sounds good, I;m just checking out the late deals as DH and I have a week off together coming up. We're heading off the west country, hopefully to little cottage somewhere although I have just discovered here which is appealing a lot to me at the mo (champagne tastes, beer money sadly!).

Hi JB - soooo wish I'd read your post whilst I was in Manchester cos I would def have come to meet you but sadly am back down south now... Although I'm back up there mid July for a couple of days so maybe we could hook up then?

Right, off to bed now, g'night all

xx

Good morning lovely ladies.

I hope you are all well this morning. Just logging on quickly because I have a super busy day and then all my family are decending for the weekend to visit and we're all off to Wimbledon on Monday (fingers crossed we land an Andy Murray match ) so might not post very much.

Caitni - are you feeling funny stretching/period type pains down below as the little one(s) bed in? Any strange cravings yet? LOL at distribution of spare babies to Bucky The Pram Diver . I was saying the other day that I am a lot more baby obsessed than i used to be (before it was all about MY baby and i wasn't terribly coo-ing over other epople's children. Nowadays, I go weak at the knees and cross roads to marvel at people's off spring. Clucky - moi?!

MOB - from me too about the birthday party phone call from that father! That's a world I know nothing about, but clearly people think way too much about these things. Also, thank you for your very kind offer of the hypno CD (ages ago now, further down the thread, i forgot to respond ). Was it any good? I'd be very interested if it is still going, but I completely appreciate you have other things to do at the moment than dash to the post office I tried a hypno CD the other day that I bought off the internet, but the woman had a reeaalllly reeeaaalllly strong Lancashire accent and she made me giggle and unfortunately, it worked so well at relaxing me, that i fell asleep waaaay before we got to the baby visualisation bit and I woke up 1.5 hours later wondering what the hell happened, but feeling mightily rested! However, I want to develop positive preganancy vibes and a welcoming womb, not improve my afternoon nap! Are your two children excited about the arrival of the DT's now? I bet they are on tenterhooks

picknmix - it's all hormones! LOL at your DH's band. When is their next gig and we can come down to the south coast and be groupies

MrsH - I meant to respond to something you said ages ago about recognising someone from RL on Mumsnet and what to do. Did you ever say "I know who you are"? I often think that if it is a distant acquaintance or person from my past, I may not say anything (unless there was a meet up and you would be "unmasked") but if it was a true friend, I probably would say that I recognised her. Tricky one though. I hope work is not too stressful. If they need a temp lawyer or locum, I'm free! Hope your DD is sleeping more and her sticker chart is full.

Bucky - I think Karen Nobbs screens her calls. I left a couple of messages for her in the past, but she does get back to you. You can usually nab her about lunchtime, but I think she sticks the ansaphone on during the morning to get on with her paperwork. Let us know how you get on with her and when she thinks you'll be treated. Really excited for you. I hope you and DP have a wonderful time in Austria and manage to get some sunshine. I think it's going to rain here too by the weather forecast, so bet it's goegous in Sound of Music land by the time you get there . Have fun Climbing Every Mountain.

Are you startig a new thread, Bucky? Tradition dictates it is the Bucky-meister who starts the new WIMBEWAINF threads. As for Botox, I've decided that come July, if it's not a BFP, then Botox it is for me

ei - have a wonderful time in Stirling. My best friend lives there and it's a lovely town. Have fun at the castle and the Wallace Monument and say a big hello to Mibbes from all of us. here's hoping for a BFP for you this month.

I live near Paddington Station and was walking through it yesterday on my way to the park and it was STUFFED with people all going to Glastonbury. It made me all wistful and want to go soo badly (I loved festival in my "youth" ), but also made me feel sooooo old ) They were all in their spotty wellies, cool clubbing gear and trilbies. British Transport Police had the sniffer dogs out and about three people (during my approx one minute walk through the station concourse) got nabbed for carrying drugs, as the police dogs bounded after them and started barking and pointing a certain folks. They reminded me of Finn, Bucky . When they were stopped, they started the whole "No,no, not me officer, never do drugs mate" and then feigning shock and awe when a baggie was pruduced from their pocket - "How did that get there!!!?? Not mine" I shouldn't laugh at people getting busted, but they were just kids and the police seemed to confiscate the drugs and then just send the poeple on their way, no questions asked, which seemed quite civilised.

Stimming is going fine. Only at Day #2 and at least the hot flushes are lessening. Just got to focus on getting my baby (ies? ) and getting in the right frame of mind. I am more apprehensive this time that last - more time on my hands to think and also more aware of what can go wrong , but also I am in better condition physically than last time and certainly have more time to pamper myself. I'm off for reflexology this afternoon - regardless of whether it is good for TTC, it feels lovely!

Must dash, I am off for another swim. I am becoming an exercise junkie

love ya all and have great weekends.

GGx

Morning ladies

PnM oooh knife set sounds like a lovely gift (but remember to have him "pay" you for them...just a penny or whatever...not that I'm superstitious or anything ). I know Henckels are a good brand...or those fancy Japanese ones...to be honest, I reckon spending some time in a kitchen shop trying out different ones would help. Good luck with the holiday cottage hunting (though I would also LOVE babington house ). We've got no major time off planned until September so am well jealous . Reckon I'm going to have to take the odd day here and there or else the summer will feel way toooooo looooong .

Bucky was LMAO at handing out spare babies . Have a lovely time in Austria...maybe you and your DP can make some playclothes out of curtains and wander around singing a la Sound of Music (one of my favourite films EVER btw...it's the main reason I'd like to visit Austria some day ). Hope this Hammersmith lady gets back to you soon. Am hoping the time flies until 15 July (for me too as I've got my first scan on 14 July!).

GG Was also LMAO at the scenes in Paddington - so many of my company are there it's like a ghost town in parts of the building . I loved festivals in my yoof but I went to T in the Park a few years ago and realised I don't like mucky fields and crowds and beer in plastic glasses all that much (even with VIP tickets and fancy wellies ). Am a wuss! It's normal to feel more apprehensive about last time but it sounds like you're in great shape mentally and physically. And you know you respond well to the drugs (which is a major advantage!) so just keep taking each stage as it comes. Have a super fun time with your family! Am also of your Wimbledon tickets. I'm all about the tennis at the moment (I love Murray too! Even with his boring monotone )

So I had to pee on another stick last night. I had a cheapy own brand pharmacy one (Rowlands maybe?) left from a pack I bought when I needed to test before downregging to make sure I wasn't pregnant. And was most relieved to see a thick dark line appear almost immediately - yay! My DH was delighted as he admitted that seeing the two coloured lines made it feel more real as that's what you see in TV/movies - which I thought was hilarious cos he's so rational I thought he would have loved the CB digi. Anyway, I've got another CB digi conception one that I'm going to save for next week to check it goes up to 2-3 weeks (or 3+ weeks). Nothing in the way of symptoms though other than bone-crushing tiredness. I haven't had any strange twinges down low since Monday (which probably prompted the need to pee on a stick ). But am only 4wks+3 so am not really expecting any symptoms this early.

Big waves to everyone one. Thank god it's Friday!

Hi ladies

Caitni I am still thrilled about your BFP. Just remember that the CBDs can be a bit unreliable so if it doesn't go up when you expect it does not mean anything is wrong. Do you have any symptoms yet?

GG I never did say anything to the person I recognised. She once was a very good friend but these days we really don't speak (and I haven't seen her in about 32 years) so I don't think it really matters. Well done on becoming a gym junkie. How is the stimming coming? How long does this bit last?

Bucky Hope you're having/have had a lovely time in Austria.

PnM if you are still looking for knives, I am a fan of Globals.

Not a lot going on here. Courgette frightened me by not wriggling for ages (and I was feeling guilty for having inhaled a pack of contraband parma ham) but then I drank a load of sprite and lay on my tum and she started up again, so yay! DD is being very sweet and says she loves "our baby" which just makes my heart melt.

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

MrsH glad that courgette got wriggling again - must be scary when that happens!

MOB hope everything's good with you - do you have any more scans before your ECS date?

GG enjoy Wimbledon today - am super as you should get to see some fantastic tennis!

Big waves to everyone else - hope you're enjoying the sun wherever you are .

I'm off to see my GP this afternoon - am 4+6 today - and with each day it passes it makes it feel more real. Have resisted the urge to pee on another stick (only peed on two so far - am still a bit at my willpower!). No morning sickness/nausea yet but am knackered, sense of smell like a bloodhound, boobs getting bigger (and TMI alert nipple area getting darker) and feeling the odd twinge down low. So feel like something is happening. Just keep willing time to pass faster - roll on tomorrow when I'll be five weeks!

Actually MOB I think that should be CS date...when you're told it's the safest way to meet your little ones I don't think it's really elective (a small insight in my perpetual dialogue with my inner pedant ).

hi ladies
caitni good luck at the GP's 4+6 eh!! if i get my BFP this cycle i will be 1 day behind you
AF hasnt arrived for me yet which makes me 14DPO and late by 2/3 days i tested this morning but it was BFN i had a very small amount of spotting on friday night/saturday morning and then another tiny bit yesterday but as yet, no AF if im not preggers this month im pretty sure i will slip off my perch!! due to the fact that im totally bored of not knowing what the hell is going on!! ahh well enough whining from me!!
hope everyone is ok
xx ei xx

Afternoon ladies

Ei sounds hopeful for you - will be keeping my fingers crossed as would LOVE to be preggo buddies with you . Did you test again today?

I bought a couple of conception indicator tests at lunch time and it's now gone up to 2-3 weeks so I'm well relieved (I'm 5 weeks exactly today - not sure how long I'll manage before testing again to see it's gone up to 3+ )). Had a comedy furtive time testing at work as I saw not one, not two but THREE colleagues in Boots and then it seemed like everyone woman I know at work was chatting in the bathrooms while I was sneaking in with a paper cup in my handbag...cue much rustling plastic to open the test, the sound of peeing into a paper cup (it's loud) and then waiting minutes before emerging with a huge smile...suspicious? Moi?

GP appointment yesterday was a bit surreal - quite formal as the doctor, er, lacks a charming bedside manner (not quite rude, just odd). But he gave me my prescription for progesterone and told me to phone the receptionist once I choose which hospital to go to.

MrsH I can choose between Homerton, UCH, Whittington and Royal Free. I'm definitely not going to Homerton (have heard nothing but bad things about it) so am know trying to choose between the three. Royal Free has lots of bad word of mouth on MN but seems to be getting its act together. Was it just the midwife led care that swung it for you? Are you finding them supportive of your VBAC? How have you found the antenatal stuff generally? Sorry for all the questions, but erring on the side of the Whit at the moment, so will be easily swayed . But it feels very surreal to be thinking about all of this when I'm 5 minutes weeks pregnant .

Big waves to everyone else - hope you're all enjoying the heatwave (although MOB and RFN2&3 hope you're not suffereing too much).

that should, of course read "...am now trying..." - so much for my so-called "attention to detail"

I'm actually booked at the Whit!

I never really considered the Royal Free, not sure why. UCH was my other possible and if I was planning a section I would go there because it is spanking new and because when I had my second ectopics (and then my early scans with this pg) they were so good and helpful and kind. I mean, they don't normally see people without referrals at the EPAU, and there was no real reason for me to have a scan at 8 weeks, but they did all of that to help me stop stressing.

In the end what swung me towards the whit is that it is nearest to where we live and so is most convenient. If you are near a hospital you often get, for example, local clinics run by community midwives. If you fall out of the hospital's "catchment" my experience is that the care might not be so good (i.e. a bit more sausage-factory like than usual). My friend had a great time at UCH because they gave her a student midwife too follow her progress throughout pregnancy, but she lives about 10 mins from the hospital, so I doubt that would be available to me.

Anyhow, enough waffling. I hope all is well. I have to go wrestle sweaty DD into bed.

Ei I hope you get your GFP too. How cool that would be for the thread to get 2 back to back!

GFP clearly stands for Great Fat Positive, by the way...

I love GFP . Fingers crossed for you Ei

Thanks for that MrsH . It's looking like the Whit for me too.

Big waves to everyone else

Hello everyone,

Any news ei? I've got my fingers and toes crossed you join caitni in the graduate club.

I did chuckle at your noisy weeing/test story caitni. Great news on the test going up! Remind me, when you get a scan to confirm how many you have on board?

How are you two coping in the heat MOB and *R4n2? Hope you are both sat with cold compresses on your head and an ice pop.

GG Where are you up to? I bet you are thrilled not to be at work at the moment. Lots of glorious weather to enjoy.

Must dash, lots of tidying to do.