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Short Luteal Phase

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mascaraisamust · 05/07/2015 22:57

So after 6 months of ttc I've worked out I've got a short luteal phase of 9 days, however it could be even less. I get a positive opk on day 19 and 9 days later AF appears. I'm fearing it could be less that 9 days if I ovulate 24-36 hours after a postive opk. No suprises that there hasn't been a bfp yet. I'm thinking this is my obstacle. Seems I've tried everything else. Do I go to my GP? Is there any point? On preconception vitamins with b6 in and have been in them for three months and no changes. Also AF is really painful every month, wondering if there is more to this. Any ideas? Or anyone experienced/ing similar?

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mascaraisamust · 09/09/2015 21:24

That's good Shary! Much better than my 1 Confused the LH test should have been done at the same time if they requested it. Ring them back tomorrow.

Sandy, that's interesting. In definately would use progesterone if I was given it. If they will!

My fertility appojtment has been cancelled! No explanation!!

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mascaraisamust · 09/09/2015 21:25

Sorry for typos!

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mascaraisamust · 09/09/2015 21:29

30 is definately ovulated too Smile

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SharyBobbins · 09/09/2015 22:02

Thanks Mascara, I'm going to get back on to them tomorrow- it'll be the 5th day I've had to ring that bloody surgery! Turns out the results I got today have been there for a few days as well- they were "hiding" behind my thyroid results apparently!! In other words, they couldn't find them!

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mascaraisamust · 10/09/2015 17:58

How annoying. Got a new appointment through today, over another month to wait...

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Sunshinegirl2015 · 10/09/2015 19:31

Oh I so swore I wouldn't symptom spot but I can't help it.

6dpo and with a usual 9/10 day luteal phase I'm due AF Monday/Tuesday.

Half way through the day at work my face started burning like I had a temperature. My cheeks look really red but apart from a burning face a I feel fine. One older woman at my work said to me are you coming down with something and I said I hope not a I feel fine just hot and she said ooh you never know you might be pregnant. No one at work knows I'm ttc and ever since she said that I've been obessesing.

I also feel like I've done a lot of sit ups but looking back over my notes I had that in cycle 2 and obviously didn't get pregnant so not sure that means anything.

Damn this 2WW.

Anyone else symptom spotting?

And shary it sounds almost comical that they had the results after you calli every day!

Oh I know how you feel mascara I've got my vaginal ultrasound scan next week which the process for was started in July!

SharyBobbins · 10/09/2015 19:31

Sorry your appointment isn't sooner Mascara, there's so much waiting with ttc :( I got the FSH & LH back today, both of which are apparently normal. Currently day 1 of AF! :( Hope you're okay!

Sunshinegirl2015 · 10/09/2015 19:36

So what is the next step for you shary? Did they say just keep trying?

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mascaraisamust · 10/09/2015 21:18

Sunshine its sounds all very promising! Try to keep busy this weekend and before you know it will be AF due date and fingers crossed it won't arrive! Being bloated was my symptom!

Oh Shary, if everything's normal then that's good but frustrating as you want a fix. Can you another appointment with the gp and see if you can get a referral? You'll get their Shary x

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SharyBobbins · 10/09/2015 21:55

Sorry Sunshine I think we posted at the same time earlier! Yep they've been drip feeding me these results all week claiming they weren't there and then magically finding them!

I don't think my GP would pursue any treatment at the moment, to be honest I'm surprised they ordered the bloods because whilst I've been ttc for 8 months it's only been 5 cycles. I think once it gets to a year OH will get himself checked out but for now I'm going to try and relax a bit more and see if we can get a BFP before Xmas xx

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mascaraisamust · 11/09/2015 06:44

Good plan, didn't realise it had only been 5 cycles. I think by Xmas is the aim for everyone Confused it'd be great if we all had our bfps by then Smile

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SharyBobbins · 11/09/2015 07:24

To be honest Mascara because it feels like much longer it came as a bit of a reality check to me too. My best friend asked me yesterday what cycle I'm on, checked my app and I'm heading in to the 6th one now. She pointed out that it took her 7 cycles to conceive her last baby and she's really fertile! My AF started 13/14 days after ovulation so I guess my luteal phase isn't short like I thought it was- I'd like to stick around on this thread though!

Sunshinegirl2015 · 11/09/2015 12:12

Yes don't leave us shary!

Keep positive. AF due in 3/4 days for me. No longer have the hot cheeks. Think it was just because I've worked like a nutter this week working over 50hrs!

No symptoms so far today at 7DPO although discharge is creamy and cervix has moved up again to a mid height when I should be low and dry which is odd :S but temps still up.

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mascaraisamust · 11/09/2015 16:48

Yes Shary stick with us!

Sunshine I really hope this is it, a good sign that your temp is still up too.

My fertility appintment isn't until mid November now. Hope I have my BFP by then! Hmm

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SharyBobbins · 11/09/2015 18:59

Fingers crossed Sunshine, my temp dropping was the first sign that it wasn't my month so everything crossed that it stays up for you and you get your BFP :)

Mascara is your fertility appointment to address your luteal phase/progesterone? x

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mascaraisamust · 11/09/2015 20:00

Shary I have no idea! I'm hoping for the progesterone issue. Who knows....

I'm hoping for a bfp before November. Got a big, abroad family wedding August which I start paying for soon Confused I know whats going to happen!

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KittyandTeal · 12/09/2015 09:10

Hi all,

Sorry to gate crash! I haven't rtft I'm afraid but I've got a few questions that I wonder some of you might be able to answer.

I have dd1 who took a few months to conceive, not hard at all. We lost dd2 in jan. she was conceived very easily. She had T18 and I had a termination for medical reasons at 22+2.

We have now been ttc number 3 for 5 cycles. I know this is not long at all. I've always had shortish cycles, however, I have noticed that my luteal phase is around 11 days. This months was only 9! I had a chemical pregnancy a few months ago and my luteal phase was 14 days but I think that was because I was 'late' before loosing the pregnancy iyswim.

I guess my question is does this sound like a short LP? Could it have been caused by my dd2s induced stillbirth? If it is a short LP what on earth do I do next? I know doc generally won't be interested until you've been trying for a year, however, I am now at a much higher risk of having another baby with a trisomy, this risk goes up with age and will rocket at 35. I will be 34 in a few months.

I guess I'm looking for some advice from people who are clued up on short LP. Smile

jellybelly85 · 12/09/2015 10:07

AF has arrived today. This is my 3rd cycle since starting TTC (after coming off the implant) - ovia tracking shows I've got LP of 9 days.

I had no idea until reading this thread that a short LP may be problematic... I know I've only started TTC, but wondered if you lovely people could advise me on whether this is something to raise with a GP or whether I should be worried?

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mascaraisamust · 12/09/2015 11:32

Hi Kitty and Jelly.

Kitty sorry for your loss, it sounds like you've had quite a rough ride recently. You're obviously really fertile if you keep managing to get bfps but if they don't stick and cause chemical pregnancies it could be a progesterone/hormonal issue. 9 days isn't too bad, are you using opks?

If not, I'd start using the CB ones this month to track it properly and pin when your peak is (remembering you could ovulate 24-36 hours after a peak) and if it is still short this month go to your gp and ask for day 21 bloods to check your progesterone levels to rule that out.

We have tried B complex which worked for me and I got a bfp but it ended in mc. Vitamin c which i also took the month I got my bfp.

jelly if this is your third cycle my advise would be to give it a couple more and see it your body falls into a natural rhythm. It took me about 5 cycle to pinpoint everything exactly. Again don't use cheap OPKs this month try the CB ones and make sure you dtd after the peak not just on the day. I waited until 6 months before getting my bloods done.

I'm now on cycle 9, took me 7 cycles to get my first bfp, as I say that was with b complex and vitamin C 50mg but after the mc I'm going back to basics as like kitty the mc may have changed my cycle.

Waiting on my first AF since mc here x

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KittyandTeal · 12/09/2015 13:36

Thanks mascara.

I have been using opk, the cb duel hormone ones, and temping too so I can pinpoint ovulation to within a day. I've done those both for 4 cycles, the first cycle I just used opk.

I know I'm definitely ovulating as I'm getting 2-4 days of flashing smilies followed by a static then a temp rise which stays up. I've found my temp starts dipping 2 days before af then drops below cover line the day af arrives.

It does make me wonder if the early end to my pregnancy has caused my hormones to go a bit mad. It look a good while for them to settle and now it seems I have a fairly short LP. I wonder if the doc will offer me 21 day bloods if I've only been trying 5 cycles (short cycles making it around 4 months) but like I say, time is not on our side. I think I would need to stop ttc after 35 as the risk of a life limiting/lethal trisomy goes up to 1:hundreds rather than thousands. It's not a risk I think I'm willing to take after loosing dd2

jellybelly85 · 12/09/2015 14:29

Thanks for the advice mascara and sorry to hear of your MC. Fingers crossed for your next cycle. I've been using cheap opks, but this month have CB tests with dual hormone - so we'll see what happens with that.

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mascaraisamust · 12/09/2015 14:54

kitty i'd definately got to your gp then and show them your recorded stats. Be firm and get those bloods.

Jelly like you say the CB will pinpoint it exactly and a gp will be more likely to listen if you are recording your cycle. Are you using an app? Just try not to get stressed out with it all (easier said than done) x

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KittyandTeal · 12/09/2015 16:17

I think I will. Annoyingly I was using ovia then moved over to fertility friend. I had a temper tantrum a few months ago and deleted all my ovia and th data so I've only got 3 cycles of fertility friend data. How annoying!

KittyandTeal · 12/09/2015 16:49

Just realised I can access the data online. Off to the docs for me then

Sunshinegirl2015 · 12/09/2015 21:49

Have AF type lower back ache and light dull cramps.

Just burst into tears on sofa DH thinks I'm crazy but is very supportive.

Just feel like AF is coming and I'm 8DPO. DH bless him keeps saying being emotional is a good sign but I think it's just because I feel all PMS like that I feel down. Time will tell and if I do get a BFP then I'm sure I'll feel like a fool for crying. And I'm symptom spotting googling everything trying to stay hopeful.

For example I've had lots of creamy mucus the last few days and I'm sure my cervix is mid way not low and I have had headaches on off today when I never get headaches and have been having hot flashes mostly in my cheeks for the past few days too. Argh silly body.

Ok feel better for getting that out there.