Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 12)

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A safe place for everyone on the TTC after MC rollercoaster. Welcome and come in - virtual wine and chocolate for all, and lots of support and hand-holding until you get your BFP!

The thread moves fast but don't let that put you off - feel free to come along and stay to chat; or dip in and out with any questions.

If you want to join the stats, just add yourself to the list:

WTTC = waiting to TTC
UCL = usual cycle length

Good luck to all - here's hoping for lots of healthy, sticky BFPs by the end of the thread

For reference here's a link back to the previous thread

Latest stats to follow in a moment!

look at this i go off for dinner and the thread get bizzzaayy.

hello mummya, emoo hadrian and lily wish (welcome and happy birthday)

i've missed you all so much

mummya bless at the little dentist.

right i'm off to bath ds and put him to bed. then i shall be back, and i no longer have to talk to myself. Thank goodness i had chloe to stop me going insane. (what was that football called in cast away?)

FRIDAY!!!! and thank fuck it is.

some more stats for the early testers (from FF's HPT gallery)

Average Day Past Ovulation (DPO) for the first positive pregnancy test: 13.6 DPO
Average DPO for the first "false" negative test result: 10.3 DPO
Percentage of pregnancy charts with a positive test at 10 DPO: 10%
Percentage of pregnancy charts which show negative results before a positive result: 17%
Average time between the expected period and the first positive pregnancy test: 0.5 days before the expected period.
Percentage of negative test results taken three days or more before the expected period day on non pregnant charts: 40.7%

TFI Friday - I'm with you on that one mummya !

quick silly question. i know af starts when you have proper red blood, but is it when you wipe or on st??? just had spotting on st, red when wiped but stopped after a couple of wipes? i'm assuming is here but just playing games and is a really short cycle this time.

Cep: thanks - have a lovely dinner. x
Mummya: I should wait until Monday (when AF is due) at the earliest to test then?! Or hold out until a day or so later methinks. Thanks for your fantastic info. You are most knowledgeable and I am lucky I bumped into you! Out to celebrate at 9.30pm. Until then will hog these threads for a short while to kill this long wait: it's gonna be a long weekend- hope it's lucky and memorable!

Evening all

Hello newbies, I hope your stay is short and sorry for your losses.

cep if it's not too late... I bought a voucher for my friend to have an hours massage, it was valid for three months so when she felt ready for an hour of 'me' time she had a perfect treat to enjoy. She loved it.

Chloe the conversation with your ds brought a tear to my eye... how very sweet.

Mouse been thinking of you, hope you are being looked after and very relived to hear you are taking the week off. Big hugs.

I'm joining Izzy and Mummy with that Friday feeling. Me and dh spent last 2 days looking at totally unsuitable houses (do estate agents listen?!), and just as we were about to leave, found one but it's significantly more than we can afford, have put an offer in and live in hope! We'll be homeless in Kent at this rate and driving up and down the M40 and round and round the M25 is not exactly keeping my stress levels low!!

Too much to catch up on but waves to my fellow bean watchers... Wombat orange nix lady Hairy tigger pink preeeeeety owl Dachs and HK

and sprinkles of baby dust over Mummy yrmothb izzy velvet choccy cep chloe hadrian wiggle AR zam BOA knitter kat brown ochaye emoo... I hope I have got everyone, extra dust if I have

Have a fab weekend all

I fricking love Fridays. And being on my period, I've already devoured a big glass of White wine.

Chloe those murals are v cute. Whereabouts in w yorks are you?

Good one for dsmummya. despite ds being 4.2 I have not yet convinced him to open his mouth at the dentists to have them looked at. The shame.

Any plans for the weekend? Any swi-ers? Or are we all at sff times? (otherwise known in this house as limited rations...)

mamap with the recent run of form, it's only a matter of time til the offer is accepted!

Hi Everyone

Just checking in for a few mins while dh gets some beauty sleep on the sofa - good to have him home. Have lots of wine stocked up to get him giddy later (tmi??)

cep hope you're feeling a bit better?

Chloe your pictures are amazing, very talented. I wish i had just an ounce of both your imagination and talent. I do however draw a very good stick man!!

MummyA those are some very impressive stats! A little disturbing, but i have no doubt i'll be refering back to them several times once i get my WTF out of the way

i'm back, boy in bed, glass of wine in hand.

collie Thanks back still hurting but am surviving. Can't believe i was in work for a grand total of 20 mins this morning. Glad dh is finally home. Trust me on this thread you get used to writing and reading tmi

lol yrmotb i have pretty much given up hope so am drinking a large glass of rose on cd8

Hi to wishin

sorry you've been lonely on here today cep

chloe great paintings - i am artistically stunted so they look great to me!

velvet that's ok. i don't mind. How you doing today?

^^

• that worked, wrong was round.

velvet as far as i'm concerned, cd8 is still not 2ww, and therefore fair game.

lol yrmotb that's why i'm still here too!

velvet I agree yrmotb is right, perfectly acceptable to drink on cd8.

This time last month I distinctly recall drinking gin and pink grapefruit juice on the basis that it was low on weight watchers points and grapefruit juice was good for ewcm, therefore practically a health drink .

Chloe your murals are fab!

mummya are you poas-ing every day now?

Ha. Was it nice, izz? sounds quite good.

mummya is POASing till it turns right, I reckon. Just like the rest of us

Hello ladies, and a special hiya pet to choccy

thanks for all the kind wishes, sorry you and DH were upset chloe life's a bit shit sometimes isn't it?

Went to gp this morning who was brill, signed me off for a week and told me to come straight back if I wanted more time. I asked if she would be willing to check thyroid function and she said yes without question - didn't even ask if I had any symptoms. Took blood. Sorted. Then my arm exploded but it was fine and I was on my merry way. She was fab, fab, fab. Ah, feel like I owe the nhs a massive bunch if flowers.

had to tell my mummy friends today - they were expecting a pg announcement but I managed to tell them without crying so that was ok. Sometimes I think I should go to pieces in front of people so they know that just because it's my second mc I'm still as heartbroken - several people have asked if I'm 'as upset' this time. Er, yes! They were both my children!

Took my sicknote to the boss, burst into tears in her office then she had another go at me saying she could get someone else to do my management role blah blah blah. So pleased I took the week off.

Sorry for the mememe. Will be more of a supportive poster soon I promise. xx

Actually yrmotb it was OK! Or maybe I was just too tipsy to care

To those of you feeling about unreasonably-timed poas-ing, I'll confess: I allow myself to poas once a month, every month, at 14dpo only. That stops me mentalling about whether I should be poas-ing any earlier.

Of course, while it sounds really sensible, because I only have a 8-12 day lp, this does mean that I'm usually poas-ing after af has arrived so in some respects it's possibly the most stoopid rule of all. But in my defence I conceived ds 4 days before af arrived and af did still arrive as usual while I was pg, so I don't always trust af!

Right, I'm reading that back and it sounds mental . Time to go hit the gin.

mouse I'm glad you got some time off and sorry your boss is being a complete tit.

izzy i'm confused. when you say you normally test after af has arrived do you mean after it's finished on during???

I'm still not sure if i should count today as cd 1 or wait till red blood on st

wine going down very nicely. hope it is af or i may be feeling guilty.

lolololol. izz That's for you...

((( mouse ))) Your boss is an arse. Without a doubt. Walk off and don't give her another thought. If you're not up to it next week, just go straight to GP and get signed off, get DH to take your note in xxx

Yay for the nice GP though!

My acupuncturist today offered to write to my GP for me asking if they would do basic progesterone tests etc. Not sure if any of you on here will remember, but I went to see my GP about three months after the mc, when I'd been charting and my cycles were a bit mad with my crap luteal phase (which I know is OK as long as your progesterone is OK, but it can indicate low progesterone, so until you test for that, how do you know?). GP wasn't interested and said she wasn't aware luteal phases could affect fertility and they wouldn't do anything at all for at least 12-18 months. Am not sure acupuncturist will be able to make any difference but I guess it's worth a try, and it's kind of nice to have someone fighting my corner. I just don't know if it would make things more stressful.

One other thing acu did suggest today that I agree with is to stop over-obsessing on the 2ww, so once ov is confirmed, put away thermometer etc and forget about it until af arrives. I have a feeling this will be easier said than done!!

Anyway I'm rambling now, it's been a funny old week. This ttc lark isn't all it's cracked up to be.

cep I poas at 14dpo whether af is still here or not, I don't discriminate

Hey

mummya you asked if my councillor is a special MC one... yes! I was referred to her by my doctor - she's an NHS councillor based in the EPU at St Georges Tooting. She also does infertility, abortion and other ladies fertility councilling and is fab.

Welcome to the newbies but so sorry you're here. There is lots of lovely support and hand-holding here.

mouse your boss sounds truely awful. Is there any scope for moving schools?

hugs to everyone else