More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

[Beattiebow]

I've started a new thread!

I am of the belief that cramping is a Good Sign as I've never been pregnant without it.
I know where you are coming from re: testing - and Staurday isn't too far away. I really, really hope it is good news xx
Re: me, I'm using 10iu tests, v.sensitive, so at 10 days po (for sure) there would certainly have been a glimmer of a line by now. I wish I'd kept to the charting now so I had a complete chart to look back on

If I am up the duff, I will have to take back all my disparaging comments about EMSplan, and call the foetus "muchlove'

Diege faulty tests? Am I grasping at straws?

at Sassymuchlove
No, test sadly accurate (3 other done since confirm

SML even? Oddly enough, those are my maiden name initials... we could call it small for short? I think I rather like that....

OMG, I am naming my imaginary bean.... I really think I am losing it...

Good luck for Saturday sas.

If I haven't seen AF by Monday I will probably cave in too but I just don't know if I'll get that far.

I hate this bit. It feels like you're almost at the point where you can think about testing and then one trip to the loo and BANG it's all over.

I do remember cramping like mad with my first preg and even as I was peeing on the stick I was totally convinced AF was coming. But there is a huge great 10 year old sat on the sofa as proof that cramping doesn't have to be bad news so I will try to remember that.

Went to visit my friend's baby. She loved the clothes. I got loads of cuddles from the little lad and I felt surprisingly calm and ZEN about the whole thing. Probably if AF was here I'd have felt differently but whilst there is still hope for my IOW baby - I was able to be genuinely pleased for her. Also, the baby really reminded me of a friend's son who is a total little terror now so i was defo not tempted to steal him - hee hee.

Yes I do feel happy for her that she's reached 14 weeks - I'm sure she was very stressed. So I'm happy for her and sad for myself at the same time iysim.

I feel fine now myself actually. Just getting on with life. As hippy says the period just before af is the worst imo.

Sassy don't blame you for not testing. (but still keeping fingers crossed for you). Anyhow no af must be a good sign eh?

oh beattie I hear you.....it is difficult especially as I keep thinking if I didn't have mc in Feb baby would be here now (weren't you mc thread too?) It's funny how I subconsciously "play" spot the pregnant lady or pick out a new baby's cry in the supermarket, shopping centre etc

Ahem moving swiftly on has anyone tried preseed at all?

Me, me, I've tried pre-seed . It is gloopy and yucky and comes in pre-measured 'doses' though I think you can buy it 'freestyle', lol. I did conceive dd3 when taking it (first month of trying it, 5th mth ttc). I said to dh today that I'm keen to get some in (the house) for next month!

Diege really.....so do you recommend pre- measured doses or "freestyle" then?

Me too Curly. I've bought some more, but can't seem to get myself to use it. It is yucky and gloopy! I've used the premeasured dose - it is wayyyy too much. This time I bought a tube that you can just use as much as you like.I really should try it again as I used it when we conceived our last baby.However I used it for several months before conceiving so it isn't necessarily the reason we conceived IYKWIM.

Just read a newspaper magazine all about fertility which really pissed me off. In the first article it was all about how difficult it is to get preg over 35 and how you'll need IVF. Later on it is all about how vitamins will help, with two case studies of women in their forties (41 and 43). Then an article that says in your 20's you have a 50% chance of conceiving, 40% in your 30's and 30% in your 40's. Those odds aren't so bad. But then another article says that IVF rates of success in the early 40's is only 5%. Statistics are so misleading and confusing!

I'm sticking to my theory, that if you are fit and healthy, and ovulating then you are in with a chance...

Sassy, I'm getting very excited for you! I'm going away today - so unless I find internet access while I'm away, I'll catch up next week. I'm looking forward to loads of bfp's...

Deige - about the super greens - I used a powdered supplement called vital greens.I take a teaspoon a day, with maca powder, l-arginine powder and collodal minerals in juice. Lately it has been a mix of orange and grapefruit juice because I'm hoping the grapefruit juice will help with my lack of EWCM.

I'm sure you'd be able to get a form of supergreens in the UK.

Oh well, still no af.... I sort of have a sympton too - am shattered all the time - in bed by 10pm every night...

sas please hurry up and come home and get some of your first morning urine on a stick asap!!!!!!!

I am on day 23 today. Period has been between 23 & 26 days of late - so am feeling very scared.

I have a bit of an upset tummy today so that could be a sign of something or just proof that i am worried.

At the Fertility show last November (wow that seems like a long time ago - nearly a year and 2 MC's since then), the lady on the pre-seed stall said the one where you choose your own amount was better than the pre-loaded tubes. She was selling the stuff and even she said there was way too much in them.

I haven't used it cos I seem to have enough of my own at the moment but it does seem to get good reviews.

beattie I know what you mean it's like, 'great someone got to 14 weeks - that's encouraging' followed by 'why isn't it me then?'

New series of the Mentalist starting soon - Ohhh Simon Baker [yummy face icon]

We went to view the first of the local senior schools last night. We were practically the last people to leave, my Dh is just so bloody thorough, he asks so many questions and I just stand there saying, "I think they want to lock up, Darling!"

3 more to view next week.

Still like the one in IOW best!!!

I am watching the wright stuff and after the break they are going to discuss MUMSNET - good thing or bad?

Will let you all know what is said. I'm sure there will be a thread about it too.

ps. Am obviously very busy cleaning at the same time as watching

ooh sassy sounds promising! Finger's crossed for you too Hippy

yes curly I had my mc in Feb too- baby was due in August, so I have also had days where I think about what should have been...

Had my day 4 test today - can't remember what that is for though? Is it to check for number and quality of eggs?

What is pre-seed? It sounds complex... What with SWI-ing and SWOI-ing and EMSp... not to mention SWITI....

Hugs Hippy - oh go on.... be pg... (crosses her fingers and wishes hard)

sas despite telling diege that she is my bezzie mate - I am happy to be totally two-faced and be your bump buddy instead

Am I fickle????

Only kiddin' diege - love you loads.

Pre-seed (from what I can gather) is a gloopy substance that has a similar consistancy to EWCM. One bungs it up one's lady bits just before one has relations with ones hubbie. It gives the lads a leg up!

Wright stuff not very good. He seemed to have got the wrong idea about MN. He said there were 10,000 new questions a day and seemed to think they were all about new mummies with babies asking for help.

I was gonna text in that those questions are broken down into sections and include miscarriage, ttc, bereavement etc etc and that personally I've made friends with many people who are in a similar situation to me and talk to those people about many things, some of which I would not be able to discuss so freely in RL.

But then I couldn't be arsed

He only covered the topic for about 5 minutes and every caller seemed to think it was also advise for mums with new babies.

at how fickle Hippy's love for me is . Am inspired to re-order some pre-seed now - I'd also second the problems with the pre-filled capsules - the stuff spills out everywhere there's so much of it! I remember also trying real egg whites . Was on the advice of some medical person, so not a mad impulsive thing . Have since heard it may present a salmonella risk!! So yes, pre-seed it is again.
I have also been reading a book that was referenced in Queen Toni's one, and it reminds me of the advice Alba gave us all about folic acid. Seems us oldies need loads of the stuff (4000 miu if I remember, or was it 5?) and she also lists other supplements that she recommends for over 40s. She has 9 kids, inc 2 she and her husband adopted, and had a last biological baby at 48! Will list her 'prescription' with amounts if anyone's interested?
Sassy I am so exicited for you and you haven't even done a test yet!
Started temping again today (11dpo) and temp still up which is great as it means hopefully that I'll get to an 11 day LP again. Another bfn this morning which I'm fine about, so hopefuly af will start tomorrow, I'll order the gloop, up my vits and bob's your uncle! Will also investigate the supergreens Gum, many thanks for the info

Bugger, bugger, bugger..

AF turned up just now. pain sort of changed at lunchtime and felt more period pain like... Have felt exhuasted since Monday and I am 4 days late... I think I have probably had an early miscarriage.

Seems so blinking disappointing after months of trying and all that shagging

Oh bloody hell Sassy that is just too cruel I think we'd all accepted that you were well and truly up-duffed, esp after the shag-a-thon as you say. It will feel better in a day or two I promise, but for now a hugemungus glass of wine and a whole box of the snug's finest chocolates for you xxx

oh sas - I'm so sorry. It is definitely worse when you are starting to believe you've made it.

I was so sure for you too.

Go sit in the snug and pig out for a while.

Feel free to rave and rant at the pure crappyness of it all.
xxx

Thank you ladies. I am ok. DH and I were both disappointed. I had been asleep in bed at 9pm English time on monday, tuesday and last night... so he had sort of noticed... this is very, very unlike me to be so tired... so I was sort of getting convinced I was pg.

On the upside, we have been analysising. It is positive we conceived at all. DH thinks our timing was better this month - our first using opks and EMSp, so we reckon we will do the plan again next month. I think on previous months, we had maybe only got 2 out of the 3 important days, instead of 3.

Onwards and upwards!

Hands baton over to Hippy

Go Hippy, Go Hippy....

Right - now where's my wine?

Sorry - forgot to ask all you wise ladies... do you think it sounds like a chemical pregnancy or an early miscarriage - or are they the same thing?

sassy - sorry to see you at cd1. As you asked, chemical pregnancy and early miscarriage are used interchangably. Chemical pregnancy and early miscarriage are used before 5 weeks before anything can be seen on a scan, after something is seen on scan then it is just an early miscarriage. I prefer the term chemical pregnancy, as it recognises that you were pregnant, miscarriage is such an negative word to me. Any way, I will join you in a glass of wine in the snug, are you cold, shall I throw another log on the fire?

Deige - you can come an sit with sas and I if you like since hippy is being your fickle friend at the moment!

Curly - sorry can't join you on the no virtual cakes, if I can't have them in real life, I simply have to have them here .

As you will see from the stats, I am back to the beginning, but I was NOT pregnant this month at last!

Sassy cd1
GG age 42 cd2
BB age 40 cd3
muchlove cd6 (on hols!)
Gum Aged 43 cd11 (on hols!)
40someMum age42 cd 13
Diege 11dpo
Hippy aged 44 10 dpo
Curlylox age 46 CD40??
10000ff
lottie
jolls
italiangreyhound - waiting for May

GG pours more wine for Sassy, and diege,,,,