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TW. Noah. The PSNI and their failure to investigate his death?

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blackandgreen · 02/04/2022 13:30

belfastmedia.com/what-are-the-police-hiding-in-the-noah-case
by Elly Omondi Odhiambo

Noah Donohoe was found lifeless in a storm drain on June 27, 2020. A post-mortem report declared that he died as a result of drowning. Well, because the job of the police is to look at every possible and impossible, there has been a growing number of Belfast residents wanting to know if there was a racial motivation in the death of Noah Donohoe. People want to know the truth. The more the family of Noah and public are cautioned against making so-called unsubstantiated statements, the more they hunger for the truth.The PSNI is bungling this sad case

This 14 year old set off on his bike one Sunday, two years ago now, to meet a friend. They were working on a Duke of Edinburgh award.

Six days later, his naked body was found a kilometre inside an unlocked storm drain, in a part of Belfast he did not frequent.

Apparently, the police announced that there was no foul play involved, on the very day that his body was found. Even before an autopsy took place. There still has been no Inquest.

The police version of events is that: Noah fell from his bike, sustained a head injury, removed his clothes in confusion, ditched his bike, wandered off naked into a part of the city he would not usually go into, and somehow ended up drowned a kilometre inside an ( unusually) unlocked storm drain.

I understand that Noah was of African/Irish heritage. Police have never considered a racial element in his death and disappearance. Another schoolboy a fortnight earlier, had been attacked and chased by a group of youths whilst cycling. He escaped from them only after running three miles to safety. Police did not investigate any links between the incidents.

His mother's demand for answers from the Police Service Northern Ireland appears to have been blocked by them. There is a petition requesting the release of these files.

See also
www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast-news/noah-donohoe-senior-psni-officer-23277631

Please, if you are able, can you support his mum Fiona, and sign the petition on MN?

This has been referred to as "the PSNI's Stephen Lawrence scandal". Let us pray and hope that it is not.

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Jamboree01 · 25/04/2022 15:45

😡💔

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DentonsFringeArnottsWaistcoat · 25/04/2022 18:00

Just re-visiting this thread. Needs to be kept near the top of the boards.

TheRealMrsMac · 26/04/2022 12:24

Noah 💙

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Jamboree01 · 26/04/2022 19:31

Coroner, Joe McCrisken, and counsel for PSNI are still pushing for PII.

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Gowithme · 26/04/2022 20:22

This all smacks of racist police doing a shit job because Noah was black doesn't it? They 'couldn't afford' to pay searchers overtime but were spending 90k a day on overtime over that two years for other things? And said there was 'missing person fatigue' - really?? Searching for a child, people would keep going no matter what to try to find them alive, surely?

Now refusing to release some of the information under rules that are usually to protect National Security or informants? It's all BS IMO. Poor Noah and Fiona and now she has to deal with his picture being cut out of the posters. Apologies for posting on BNM when I'm white I really just wanted to say I will sign the petition. RIP lovely Noah.

TheRealMrsMac · 26/04/2022 20:46

@Gowithme Thank you 💙

TheRealMrsMac · 27/04/2022 08:56

Noah and Fiona. 💙

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TheRealMrsMac · 27/04/2022 12:28

This afternoon, 305,491 people are standing up for Noah and Fiona. Will you join us?

Please sign or sign and share Fiona's petition, and don't forget to confirm your signature for it to count. The link for the petition can be found in the OP of this thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

Jamboree01 · 28/04/2022 02:32

Gowithme · 26/04/2022 20:22

This all smacks of racist police doing a shit job because Noah was black doesn't it? They 'couldn't afford' to pay searchers overtime but were spending 90k a day on overtime over that two years for other things? And said there was 'missing person fatigue' - really?? Searching for a child, people would keep going no matter what to try to find them alive, surely?

Now refusing to release some of the information under rules that are usually to protect National Security or informants? It's all BS IMO. Poor Noah and Fiona and now she has to deal with his picture being cut out of the posters. Apologies for posting on BNM when I'm white I really just wanted to say I will sign the petition. RIP lovely Noah.

And many, many more than those that Cllr Barr has mentioned.

assault on Flynn McGuire (same school as Noah, attacked and hunted in same area as Noah was allegedly last seen) in the weeks prior to Noah’s disappearance. Flynn was denied an investigation. He knows the area and is a cross country runner.
mobile.twitter.com/northbelfastnew/status/1260509696588423168?lang=en-GB

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Jamboree01 · 28/04/2022 03:39

I share Cllr Barr’s posts as he from th same place as Fiona and Niamh, is a close friend of theirs, and has been one of the few giving a very loud voice to Noah from the start. He understands what is going on here. It’s complex

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Jamboree01 · 28/04/2022 22:07

They are attempting to invoke PII in order to withhold over 600 pages of information relating to a child’s death
#NoPII
#JusticeForNoahDonohoe

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 09:36

FIONA DONOHOE on Twitter:
'1.A Public Inquiry deals with issues of "Public Concern" In #JusticeForNoahDonohoe 's case there have been many issues raised that are of "Public Concern" - The use of a PII - The lack of resources used in Investigation - Missing Person Fatigue - To name just a few.

  1. A Jury in an inquest will have restrictions on them as to what they believe the final decision can be on what happened Noah. As dictated by the Coroner. For example they may only be allowed to decide between suicide or misadventure The Coroner is still in control.
  2. We believe that a PUBLIC INQUIRY is the only way #JusticeForNoahDonohoe has any chance of being heard. Please support us on our request for #PublicInquiryForNoahDonohoe'

Niamh Donohoe, Fiona's trusted sister, on Twitter:
'We feel Noah's case is so complex and has such a wide scope of issues that the Coronial Inquest is no longer the suitable arena to deal with it. To obtain Justice and make change for all our children a Public Inquiry should be sought'.

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 09:38

FIONA DONOHOE on Twitter:
'@BrandonLewis The family do not insist on a jury...we have done our own research and realised a jury helps in the narrative the coroner is driving...we insist on a public inquiry. Knowledge is power. Thank God we learn as we go #JusticeForNoahDonohoe
@BrandonLewis this is my only child. His name is Noah Donohoe. He was found naked, alone without me, in a dark and horrible storm drain. I am asking you to stop #PII and request a PUBLIC INQUIRY NOW'

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 09:46

Brandon Lewis is the Conservative MP for Great Yarmouth and the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. He is the one who will ultimately sign off the Public Interest Immunity Certificate.

This is more about Brandon Lewis, and his contact details if anyone would like to do so:
members.parliament.uk/member/4009/contact

www.gov.uk/government/people/brandon-lewis

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 09:53

There has been some talk of the current PSNI Chief Constable Simon Byrne returning to the Met Police to take over from Cressida Dick.
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/10/who-might-replace-cressida-dick-as-met-commissioner

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 18:12

Trigger warning 💙

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Monty27 · 01/05/2022 18:19

Sorry for my earlier post. I was just seeing several Noah posts. I wasn't paying attention to which topic was which tbh. I stand humble and corrected, the wider Noah's support is for the better.
Justice for Noah! ⚖️

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 20:18

Thank you @Monty27 - I appreciate that, and I'm sure others do too. 💙

Monty27 · 01/05/2022 22:21

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 20:18

Thank you @Monty27 - I appreciate that, and I'm sure others do too. 💙

Thank you. I really am sorry for being negative. And thank you for putting me in my place. It was a ridiculous thing to say.
I wish for nothing other than success for the campaign. ⚖️💙

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 02/05/2022 15:02

Niamh Donohoe, Fiona's trusted sister on Twitter:
3 hours ago
'1. I think these past few weeks have been a massive learning process for Fiona and myself; in the legal side, campaign and our personal lives. I think people forget that aside from the campaign we are 2 ordinary woman, sisters, mothers, friends just trying to survive all that life...

  1. is throwing at us regardless of the monumental battle we face every day for Noah💙. Noah's fight for justice is something we are so completely invested in as he was our beloved boy, Fiona's only beautiful baby & we will never stop until we get justice.
  2. Persistent threats from UNDESIRABLES & the lack of support from those looking for votes for the #AE22 (NI elections) has reinforced our resolve to fight the system and all those complicit in covering up Noah's murder. The lack of action from our Assembly Electioneers has been a truly...
  3. eye-opening and sickening reality; that a child's life will be sacrificed for the greater good if we the public allow it. Noah has been so profoundly let down by so many people that are meant to protect and that can not be allowed to be ignored in any functioning society.
  4. Some days it feels like we can't go on but Noah is always enough reason to continue, the safety of all our children is enough reason. Please stay strong with us and continue to demand and hold all accountable. #JusticeForNoahDonohoe💙 #NoahsArmy⚡ #LipServiceIsNoService #AE22'
MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 02/05/2022 15:25

I know some posters have wondered how Fiona is doing. Even for those of us who are mothers and those who have experienced loss and trauma of our own, it is impossible to imagine what the last nearly two years have been like for her.

Fiona on Twitter:
'1.I know I mostly sound "unhinged"...a minority would love me to be...I was grateful to be able to get out of Belfast yesterday...came back today to see police knocked on my door...unannounced.

  1. I never asked for a knock on my door...some days I feel like absolute hell...and open door would be my nightmare...anyone knocking on my door fills me with dread... when you are going through trauma...you wont understand until you want to get away from life'.

No, Fiona, you don't sound unhinged. You have been forced into this situation and by no fault of your own or Noah's. You sound like a devoted, grieving, determined, reasonable and therefore powerful, mother and woman. 💙

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 02/05/2022 15:31

305,861 people have so far signed Fiona's petition.

Please sign or sign and share, and don't forget to confirm your signature for it to count. The link for the petition can be found in the OP of this thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

Thank you 💙

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Jamboree01 · 03/05/2022 00:54

Monty27 · 01/05/2022 22:21

Thank you. I really am sorry for being negative. And thank you for putting me in my place. It was a ridiculous thing to say.
I wish for nothing other than success for the campaign. ⚖️💙

That’s really good of you to say. Thank you so much. Every human being gets things wrong, or disagrees sometimes. Takes a strong person to apologise. Really admirable (I do not mean to sound patronising but we’ve been up against it and your recent posts are heartwarming).

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