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To hope that Gordon Brown doesn't resign?

252 replies

mrsruffallo · 05/06/2009 09:24

I still don't think he is doing a bad job. I think he is a very caring and intelligent politician, and I hope he stays.
Am I the only one who feels like this?

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howtotellmum · 05/06/2009 09:26

I hope he stays- cos as long as he does, there is not a chance in hell that Labour will win the next election.

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mrsruffallo · 05/06/2009 09:27

What a surprise- you seem so liberal!!

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Hassled · 05/06/2009 09:31

No, I've managed to retain my soft spot for Gordon despite all the shite. And I really can't come up with a person who would do a better job. I do believe he is a genuine person, and I don't see that anyone else would have handled the financial crisis differently, they're all as bad as each other re the expenses mess...

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mrsruffallo · 05/06/2009 09:35

Ah, it's nice to hear I am not the only one Hassled

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DeepGoat · 05/06/2009 09:37

he is incapable of making a decision and is paralysed by his own fragile ego.

he should have called an election when he came in. the dithering weakened him.

he should have admitted that yes he did make mistakes on the economy (yes i know it is a global thing but his policy of growth growth growth and sucking up to the city was a mistake).

he could have dealt this the banking crisis alot better. rbs et al. have taken us all for mugs.

i do admire and respect him but he has fallen apart in a crisis so sorry gordon you are fired!

oh, i feel better now.

DeepGoat · 05/06/2009 09:38

the expenses thing is just a distraction, they were all at it. i think labour have done a great job but all governments get stale and you don't get much staler than gordon brown atm.

Hassled · 05/06/2009 09:42

Yes, there was something interesting in the Guardian along the lines of his inability to make quick decisions being his biggest weakness. And while that was a positive thing (the thinking things out slowly and carefully) when he was Chancellor, it's not an approach that suits the role of PM, where everything is so rapid-fire. In my mind though, slow and well-thought decisions are usually the best ones.

AitchTwoOh · 05/06/2009 09:43

i TOTALLY agree about the election, that was an absolutely fatal dither. but right now i just feel that he's being bullied. i know that's a pretty adolescent reaction but i don't like to see anyone being bullied and give into it.

jumpingbeans · 05/06/2009 09:43

Oh we do love a scapegoat, makes me smile when all the other parties are blaming him for the thieving/embezzelment going on, when they are all at it.

DeepGoat · 05/06/2009 09:43

except when the economy is in free fall the the banks are taking us all for a ride. honestly there is nothing well thought out about anything he has done in power.

smallchange · 05/06/2009 09:44

YANBU. I voted Labour yesterday and tbh it was a vote for Gordon.

I can't stand the rush to find a scapegoat and I think he's the best we've got at the moment. I genuinely don't believe anyone could do better under the current conditions.

AitchTwoOh · 05/06/2009 09:45

well i CANNOT believe that we own the banks but the fuckers still aren't lending. surely that was built into the 'we are saving your arses and putting our debt situation into crisis' deal?

Tamarto · 05/06/2009 09:47

DeepGoat - You can't blame him for the state of the economy, it was going to happen sooner or later

OP - YANBU

I'd rather eat my own foot than see DC as PM!

Voltaire · 05/06/2009 09:49

I think GB is a very decent politician but Labour's chances of winning a fourth term might increase if he stepped down. But I can't think who might take over. David Miliband would probably be their best bet in terms of moderate Blairite and possessing the necessary intellectual rigour for the PM role. Millburn, Johnson and the ghastly Stephen Byers fail on the intellectual rigour front.

smallchange · 05/06/2009 09:49

Well, to be fair they are lending but only to very sure bets.

So I suppose you could argue that in the current uncertain situation that's being sensible with our money.

DeepGoat · 05/06/2009 09:49

i am not blaming him for the crisis (read my post) but i don't think he handled it well at all. and it seems pretty crazy that he was so unprepared for it. even i, with the ecomonical sense of a 5 year old, could see that a crash was coming.

he acted with extreme short sightedness and should have behave with more authority with the city instead of acting like a love struck teenager.

Voltaire · 05/06/2009 09:51

Brown should have put money aside for the bad times, during all those very good years.

smallchange · 05/06/2009 09:55

See, that's easy to say in hindsight but do you really think the public (or the Opposition) would have accepted it at the time? We'd have been moaning like crazy about "Greedy Gordon hoarding our hard-earned taxes".

We get the politicians (and the policies) we deserve. And Brown was spending to make up for well over a decade of neglect.

daftpunk · 05/06/2009 09:57

agree...every labour supporter in the country should get behind them...forget the expenses claims....we don't want another 12 years of the bloody tories...

daftpunk · 05/06/2009 09:58

labour can win the next election....i have hope.

Rindercella · 05/06/2009 09:59

Agree Voltaire. He shouldn't have sold our gold reserves (so cheaply) either.

Brown must take responsibilty for some of the current economic mess as he was Chancellor of this country for 10 years. This means that he was the man responsible for this country's finances during that time. He took the credit (hah!) when things were going well. Now he needs to put his hands up and proclaim mea culpa that things are so bad.

I do not believe that any of the political parties are doing anything of substance at the moment. They are probably all far too worried about their personal expense claims and whether or not they will be charge with fraud.

Voltaire · 05/06/2009 10:00

Smallchange - of course we wouldn't. We would have thought what a prudent, sensible, Chancellor. It was ridiculous to think that sort of growth was sustainable.

DeepGoat · 05/06/2009 10:01

britain is essentially a conservative country. labour had to shove all their socialist principles up their arse to get in at all. it is depressing.

britain should have had a revolution and got shot of the ridiculous hierachical social system but sadly now we appear stuck with it.

david cameron represents all that is abhorent about the class system in this country and yet he will be voted in along with his revolting golemesque cabinet, george 'my precious' osbourne.

saadia · 05/06/2009 10:03

I think he is a decent person and I would like to think that he is a good PM but I am on the fence about that. Definitely prefer him to Blair, am starting to like Cameron but I don't think he is really representative of his party.

daftpunk · 05/06/2009 10:10

DG.. true...."new" labour had to sell part of their soul to get elected... you have to stick with them though....what else is there??