To hope that Gordon Brown doesn't resign?

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I still don't think he is doing a bad job. I think he is a very caring and intelligent politician, and I hope he stays.
Am I the only one who feels like this?

am horrified at the prospect of DC et al in charge, let's not forget that he and GO joined the party when it was at its most repellent. two young men, privileged, eton-educated etc join up in the wake of thatcher? eeeeurgh.

vince cable for pm, i say.

no YANBU - it would be unreasonable of him to resign now and let someone else clean up the mess.

vince cable wouldn't be PM aitch...he wont even lead his own party......it's labour V conservatives..

I do love Vince though - he is always The Voice of Reason. Gordon needs to appoint him as National Soothsayer.

lol dp i know that. doesn't mean i don't think he's the man for the job. national soothsayer a good role for him in the absence of a last-minute ushering into the PM job.

Vince Cable won't do it because he thinks he is too old. Like Menzies Campbell was too old. He isn't really but it's his choice of course.

Parnell and Blears and all the rest of the Brown haters have failed to realise that the British public have more support for Gordon Brown than they do for the rest of the labour party.

I think Gordon Brown is a decent human being, unfortunately the majority of the labour cabinet are useless and dictorial. Labour will lose the next election but they will lose by a bigger margin if someone else leads the labour party.

Can't decide whether YABU or not!

He is a rubbish leader and has made very little comment about the expenses row, unlike Cameron who seems to be more of a leader.

BUT the timing is wrong for a general election, therefore I hope he doesnt resign.

i like ming campbell, i interviewed him and his wife. amazing people, really. she's bonkers but brilliant. went back to uni as a mature student and did her thesis on coronation st. smokes like a lum and is elegant in a pouffed-hair and bright pink lippie sort of a way. v posh. ming's a tenement lad from glasgow but you wouldn'ae think it. the way he was hung out to dry was a disgrace.

i personally think that's true about the Labour party vs GB, FO, vg point.

I liked him too although I never met him, aitch. I have met Vince Cable though - he is the local MP in my Dad's area and he came to my Mum's memorial service. He is a nice man.

I feel very uncomfortable - almost being forced to being a spectator to GB being bullied on a massive scale. I am not at all sure who they think should be running the Labour party but it is a bit of a mob mentality now on the tv news and the newspapers.

me too, sis.
that was lovely of VC, thumbwitch.

Cameron is repellant

GB should have called an election when he first arrived and sadly I think it is too late now.

Agree with Aithch and daftpunk on the whole

ps smallchange, my pal is a IFA, he's getting clients knocked back for mortgages cos they missed a credit card payment a year back. one credit cart payment despite being in a good, stable, unthreatened job. they're not being prudent, they're being twats.

Agree with sis.

it was aitch - although as both my parents were previously liberal councillors etc. and had both had mayoral roles, he really had to come! But he still had to find the time to do it so it is still good that he did.

England is a conservative country and has had the labour party foisted upon them for too long by the votes north of the border. If the Scots want devolution then let them have it and England can get the conservative government they want.

Gordon Brown is truly dreadful, arrogant and out of touch.

OP, YANBU. I feel the same.

My DP and I both voted Labour yesterday, just to show some moral support, even though it's a completely wasted vote where we live.

I think Gordon Brown should stay as leader of the labour party until the next election (although I would like the next election to be soonish - October?).

I think he has done as well as anyone else could in the financial crisis although also think much of it was caused/ encouraged by his policies (not that anyone else would have been better).

I think it would be hugely damaging for Labour to get another leader without an election so an election would have to be held quickly which at the moment would really play into the BNP hands and avoid any real prospects of constitutional change - fully elected HoL without politicians or former politicians in it [hopeful] and a change from FPTP to AV/PR.

ChocolateRabbit - I understood the HoL but what are the FPTP & AV/PR please?

Wonder what Tony Blair and Alastair Campbell make of all this? (If Fiona C is lurking after her webchat, perhaps she could tell us)

I don't think GB should resign either.

FFS he has just appointed Alan Sugar to the government. Sums it up really, pahetic.