To question whether northerners are actually poorer than southerners ?

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As we know a lot of northerners seem to think all southerners are living like the Russian Romanov family pre murder and funds from the south should be directed up north because they are apparently so much poorer than us.

But is this even true? If you can buy a family home up there for 100k or less and the same size home costs 300-400k on average in the south. You already have a lot more disposable income. I know they say they get paid less, but Tesco (for example) pays the same every where and has branches everywhere. I know they also say there’s no good jobs there but where there’s people there’s schools and hospitals so you want us to believe there’s no teachers and doctors?

I know someone will say “move there then” personally I won’t be moving anywhere anytime soon as I started my family young (first born a few months after GCSEs) and my kids are all really settled in school and with friends.
Based on what I’ve heard from northerners they are more welcoming to people from countries on the other side of the planet than they are their fellow countrymen from 100 miles to the south.

There isn't as many jobs up north as down south.yabu.

You sound quite bonkers OP

Northerners aren't poorer as housing costs are significantly cheaper but more funds should be directed up north for lack of services.

I guess it depends where you are. Some bits of Manchester have some very wealthy people but there aren’t so many in Catford.

Thanks for the laugh, OP! 🤣

Have you ever met any northerners? We're not fucking aliens 🤣 nor do we all believe the same things, or do the same jobs or earn money the same way.

Also where are these places one can buy a family home for less than £100k??

I'm was born in Lancashire and live in Essex. The difference is opportunities. I can hop on a train and work in London. In my Lancashire town there were few opportunities, but also less ambition. What is the point of striving if all you see around you is adversity? Just because houses are cheaper doesn't mean anyone can afford them.

Where there’s people there’s hospitals and schools and supermarkets. So therefore a need for nurses doctors teachers cashiers cleaners etc

You could have a look at this Joseph Rowntree report if you're interested OP. I suspect those in real poverty (North and South) wouldn't ever be able to afford to buy a house...

Maybe I should have said between 100k and 200k for a 3 or 4 bed house. Down south a 3 bed house goes between 300-400k and 4 beds can be up to half a million.
If I for example (work in a supermarket) lived there’s I’d earn the same money I do now but have a lot more disposable income. And they want us to believe theyre impoverished and we’re all posh and stuck up

This also goes for the price of rent btw

That still doesn't mean there's an equal amount of jobs. 🤣 Have you even been up North?! Your entire post is a load of waffle.

Yes, but potentially less need for city bankers and stockbrokers and forensic accountants and commercial lawyers if major companies all decide to situate their headquarters in the well-connected south? But never mind, northerners can always work at Tesco!

I definitely think I have a better quality of life than many Southerners. I don't think I'm richer in terms of cash-money though. I live in an area where house prices aren't that much better than parts of the South East.

There are some areas with absolute grinding levels of poverty though which match London and also have the problem of a lack of opportunity to get out of that situation which London at least has.

It depends on what you are talking about here.

If you are trying to make this into a 'oh the south is so hard done by, look at the wealthy northerners' as some kind of argument, you are fairly clueless though.

See this is the kind of shit I’m talking about the VAST majority of southerners are working normal jobs and are not city bankers

And they want us to believe theyre impoverished and we’re all posh and stuck up

Do they? Where are you getting this from? Have you asked any of us?

I’m Scottish and I find the north vs south divide entirely baffling.

Scotland has an east/west divide but it’s not really the same thing.

I’ve witnessed southerners looking down on northerners for no reason other than their accent.

I’ve witnessed a blue collar southern couple look down on an educated, better paid, professional couple because they came from a northern city.

It’s weird

Yes, of course, but that's the disparity of opportunity that is caused when resources and funds are repeatedly channelled into the south and not the north. It's a cycle.

Do Northerners think funds from down South should be redirected North?

Surely the amount of shops, schools and hospitals (job opportunities) matches the ratio of people living there to some degree. Otherwise kids would be in classrooms of 50 kids instead of the usual 30. And everyone would be travelling a hundred miles down south for an x ray.

Geography | Joseph Rowntree Foundation

London has the highest poverty rate (by region) in the country. It also has the highest concentration of millionaires.

The county with the highest poverty rate is Cornwall.

So much depends on what exactly you are measuring and how you measure it, but it's a lot more complex than north/south.

I think a better way to put it is that the north offers opportunities for a higher standard of living on a lower income than you'd get in many areas of the south. People living in the south are more likely to have wealth.

Ryton, Sunderland, South Shields, Hexham, Houghton le Spring.

My stepson rents a 4 bedroom detached new build house that's really spacious...for about 1200 quid a month! He's in Lincolnshire. Down here in the Kent downs the same house is at least twice that much. We currently pay 1700 a month to live in an old bungalow that's literally falling down

I’ve honestly never heard a single southerner say anything snobby or nasty about northerners. I have heard a lot of the opposite though “stuck up posh southerners looking down on us”

I live in the north and I think the middle class are better off than the middle class in the south simply because our outgoings are lower (as in we have more cash available). I have a 4 bed detached house, my mortgage is less than £700 per month. In 10 years I’ll own it. Of course I have more spare money than someone who’s paying 2k a month regardless of if they earn slightly more than me