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Pure Cremation is body disposal right?

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josephiine · Yesterday 13:22

The advert makes it sound like it’s a lovely thing and saves money. I get that it’s cheaper but surely that’s because it is literally a body disposal service?
My FIL has just planned his, he asked my husband if he minds which he doesn’t, but it got us talking, am I missing anything?

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Waitingfordoggo · Yesterday 19:55

C8H10N4O2 · Yesterday 14:29

I agree. Every culture and society on earth has placed importance on social rituals at the time of births, deaths, marriages and becoming an adult. That isn't an accident.

Bearing in mind you can have whatever form of service/commemoration you choose I'm surprised how many people think its a set form. The social coming together at a funeral often is a reunion of people who are there to remember their friend/relative and each other at the end of a life. That is part of the point of the ritual.

Absolutely this. And there is so much flexibility- it doesn’t have to be stiff or formal or religious.

We had a funeral service in a church for my Mum as she had some religious belief but wasn’t a churchgoer. Then we had a big wake at a local hall. The following day, my brother and I and our spouses went to the crematorium for the cremation service, which was just the four of us taking turns to stand up and talk about mum and playing some music.

Dad wasn’t religious so we had a humanist service at the crem followed by a wake at a hotel.

For both of my parents, there were a lot of attendees as they had both died somewhat prematurely, and had both been very busy, popular, and well-liked people through life.

Waitingfordoggo · Yesterday 19:57

To add- I didn’t feel any of the attendees had just turned up for the free sandwiches. They really were people who knew, liked and respected my parents.

Snackpocket · Yesterday 20:03

I’ve not got any children and hope to live to a ripe old age meaning most my family will already be gone. So direct cremation is the perfect option for me, I’m not religious so don’t care for an actual funeral.

BooseysMom · Yesterday 20:04

Crikeyalmighty · Yesterday 13:42

Personally I hate funerals so to me they make a lot of sense- you can also have a get together at the pub or a room and have speeches and pictures up if you want - I attended one like this and actually thought it was much nicer having a few speeches and some lovely pictures up on a pin board in the place it was held . Felt more like a low key social party -

I hate them too. I can't stop crying even when it's not a close relative. My DM was cremated with a coffin and hearse and close family attended but the funeral place fucked up the music. It was £6k too! There's no way we could afford that now so I've been thinking Pure Cremation could be the answer. The only thing is how do you know it's definitely your loved one's ashes they send you? 😣

SandyHappyPerson · Yesterday 20:21

Gloriia · Yesterday 19:53

Many 'normal' funeral directors offer direct cremation and I'm sure they treat the bodies exactly the same.

Except the body stays local and funeral directors normally offer an option to visit your loved one while they are waiting for cremation, you can satisfy yourself how well they are being taken care of yourself, you can also take things in to be put with the body for cremation at any time.

Pure cremation just take them away and anything that goes in with them needs to go at the same time, it's a very impersonal service, but you get what you pay for.

clapalongnow · Yesterday 20:26

Gloriia · Yesterday 19:53

Many 'normal' funeral directors offer direct cremation and I'm sure they treat the bodies exactly the same.

They definitely don’t. My Nanna and my dad were both dressed, we were allowed to visit them if we wanted and we had the same level of service from the FD as we would with a full attended funeral. Local is always best here.

XenoBitch · Yesterday 20:48

SandyHappyPerson · Yesterday 20:21

Except the body stays local and funeral directors normally offer an option to visit your loved one while they are waiting for cremation, you can satisfy yourself how well they are being taken care of yourself, you can also take things in to be put with the body for cremation at any time.

Pure cremation just take them away and anything that goes in with them needs to go at the same time, it's a very impersonal service, but you get what you pay for.

That may be Pure Cremation, but other direct cremation services exist.
The one we used for my DF works with local crematoria.
We were able to drop off clothing for him to wear (or post it).
When his ashes were returned, the lady bringing them round was dressed the same as she would have been leading a hearse.

After DF died, a letter from Pure Cremation came for him in the post, so he had obviously seen the ad on TV and called for more information. He always said he did not want a a funeral anyway. He died suddenly and unexpectedly, and none of us were in a state to organise one.

BMW58 · Yesterday 21:08

Timeforanothernamechange3 · Yesterday 17:36

What religion/philosophy do you follow out of interest?

I'm Agnostic

MyGirlJ · Yesterday 21:09

Aren't all funerals a body disposal service?
I'd like a direct cremation. I dont wanted money wasted on flowers, pomp and cermeony. Then when my daughter gets my ashes back she can decide what she wants to do. I suggested she could hold a little party/gathering with my ashes present. Everyone can listen to my favourite music and eat my favourite foods, talk about me (the good, the bad, and the ugly 😂) and just have a generally nice time. She likes the idea, but i'd be happy with whatever she decides to do.

XenoBitch · Yesterday 21:12

MyGirlJ · Yesterday 21:09

Aren't all funerals a body disposal service?
I'd like a direct cremation. I dont wanted money wasted on flowers, pomp and cermeony. Then when my daughter gets my ashes back she can decide what she wants to do. I suggested she could hold a little party/gathering with my ashes present. Everyone can listen to my favourite music and eat my favourite foods, talk about me (the good, the bad, and the ugly 😂) and just have a generally nice time. She likes the idea, but i'd be happy with whatever she decides to do.

I think the term "body disposal" sounds horrible. Like someone is being thrown out with the rubbish or taken to the tip.
We have a lot of law and regulation regarding how the deceased are laid to rest.

BeckyS93 · Yesterday 21:13

I work at a crematorium and it's 100 percent body disposal.

Wherever you live in the country, your body will be sent to Andover. It will be stored in a body warehouse until they're ready to cremate. Loved ones cannot attend the cremation or be told when it is, afterwards. They are sent ashes in a plastic tub that looks like a food recycling bin.

If the next of kin contact pure cremation, they will be met with a call centre.

If you don't want a funeral and want to keep costs down, please consult your local funeral directors and arrange a direct cremation with them. Nobody will attend, but things are kept local and you can speak with real people, not a call centre.

BMW58 · Yesterday 21:13

BooseysMom · Yesterday 20:04

I hate them too. I can't stop crying even when it's not a close relative. My DM was cremated with a coffin and hearse and close family attended but the funeral place fucked up the music. It was £6k too! There's no way we could afford that now so I've been thinking Pure Cremation could be the answer. The only thing is how do you know it's definitely your loved one's ashes they send you? 😣

Crematoria are very very strictly supervised and regulated.
There's probably more chance of being given the wrong baby on leaving a Maternity Unit than being given the wrong ashes.

For that matter - how do you know the right body is in the grave?

BeckyS93 · Yesterday 21:14

tessiegirl · Yesterday 18:40

I’m guessing you aren’t able to view the body? This is one part I’m most struggling with.

No, you are not allowed to visit. They do not go to a local funeral home. They are sent their Central funeral home in Andover

BMW58 · Yesterday 21:17

They are sent ashes in a plastic tub that looks like a food recycling bin

Well that's simply not true!

My DH came in a paper sack inside a smart dark blue box.

BeckyS93 · Yesterday 21:18

BMW58 · Yesterday 21:13

Crematoria are very very strictly supervised and regulated.
There's probably more chance of being given the wrong baby on leaving a Maternity Unit than being given the wrong ashes.

For that matter - how do you know the right body is in the grave?

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You're absolutely right. As a crematorium worker, I know that I check every single coffin that comes in and give it a tag that follows them the entire way through the cremation process. It is so strict. There is literally zero chance that you will ever be given the wrong person.

BMW58 · Yesterday 21:20

Wherever you live in the country, your body will be sent to Andover.

That's not true either! Southampton has a Crematoria as does Porchester

Why are you spouting such bollocks?

BeckyS93 · Yesterday 21:27

BMW58 · Yesterday 21:20

Wherever you live in the country, your body will be sent to Andover.

That's not true either! Southampton has a Crematoria as does Porchester

Why are you spouting such bollocks?

I'm not spouting bollocks - pure cremation do not just use the crematorium closest to where the deceased lives, they use their facility.

https://www.purecremation.co.uk/charlton-park-crematorium

If you book a direct cremation through your local funeral director then yes, they will send you to your local crematorium.

You can contact Pure if you don't believe me 🤣

About Charlton Park Crematorium

Charlton Park Crematorium in Andover, Hampshire, offers a serene parkland setting for dignified direct cremations and family farewells. Learn more here.

https://www.purecremation.co.uk/charlton-park-crematorium

MyGirlJ · Yesterday 21:27

XenoBitch · Yesterday 21:12

I think the term "body disposal" sounds horrible. Like someone is being thrown out with the rubbish or taken to the tip.
We have a lot of law and regulation regarding how the deceased are laid to rest.

It does sound horrible, but no matter if someone is cremated or buried, it's a way of disposing of their remains in a sanitary way. The rest of the funeral is all social niceties.

XenoBitch · Yesterday 21:32

MyGirlJ · Yesterday 21:27

It does sound horrible, but no matter if someone is cremated or buried, it's a way of disposing of their remains in a sanitary way. The rest of the funeral is all social niceties.

I agree, but cremation is not disposing of a body really. They are transforming it, and in most cases giving the remains back to you.

I just found the term really insensitive TBH. My DF died earlier this year and we used a direct cremation service (not Pure Cremation). We did not see it as a "body disposal service". it is just the cremation without the funeral.
Body disposal just sounds like you are burdened with something and want someone to take it away.

Justsewsew · Yesterday 21:35

BeckyS93 · Yesterday 21:13

I work at a crematorium and it's 100 percent body disposal.

Wherever you live in the country, your body will be sent to Andover. It will be stored in a body warehouse until they're ready to cremate. Loved ones cannot attend the cremation or be told when it is, afterwards. They are sent ashes in a plastic tub that looks like a food recycling bin.

If the next of kin contact pure cremation, they will be met with a call centre.

If you don't want a funeral and want to keep costs down, please consult your local funeral directors and arrange a direct cremation with them. Nobody will attend, but things are kept local and you can speak with real people, not a call centre.

That was absolutely not my experience

BMW58 · Yesterday 21:35

BeckyS93 · Yesterday 21:27

I'm not spouting bollocks - pure cremation do not just use the crematorium closest to where the deceased lives, they use their facility.

https://www.purecremation.co.uk/charlton-park-crematorium

If you book a direct cremation through your local funeral director then yes, they will send you to your local crematorium.

You can contact Pure if you don't believe me 🤣

Your original post did not specify that you were only talking about the company Pure Cremation!

Permanentlyundecided · Yesterday 21:42

Pure cremation are just one company.
If you arrange a direct cremation through a funeral director then the deceased stays with them until the cremation, you can pay extra to use a local crematorium, can arrange a viewing and the ashes are returned there.
You don't choose the date but you can decline a date if it's not suitable.
You will be told the time the cremation will take place.
At least that was my recent experience.

TY78910 · Yesterday 21:46

A bit insensitive to think of it in that way if I’m honest. For a lot of people it’s circumstantial. I found out out of the blue that my father passed and it’s all I could afford at the time. Logistically we could not do a service anyway. I received his ashes, I chose the urn. I never once thought he was disposed of.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · Yesterday 21:48

HorseandHeron · Yesterday 13:56

I know. But the point I was making is that it was oddly healing to have his body there, in the coffin, as we all remembered him so fondly. To be there to say goodbye. To have the body of a loved one sent off to burn with no one there to show their love and respect feels odd to me.

But this is personal choice, surely?
I didn't need to have a body there to say goodbye...in fact it felt preferable to traditional funerals.

It strikes me as odd... A body is just what transports the essence /soul of someone around in.

SeriousTissues · Yesterday 22:12

We used Pure Cremation for my dad this year. We knew when he was being cremated. There was a lovely lady delivered him back to us. No complaints about the service from them at all. Then we held a celebration of his life a couple of months later, which gave mum something to focus on for a while.