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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 17:10

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 17:05

Women don't ask to be raped. Disruptive protestors are kinda asking to be removed. If they continue their disruption (which they love to do) force needs to be used to remove them.

The same way I remember the road blockers I didn't feel sad when people physically grabbed them and moved on..or sprayed ink on them.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 17:11

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 17:09

Evading the facts there ES?

Ik you want this to be the case but it probably isn’t.

Given the OBR are assessing now there’s no reason why a source can’t be given data.

Meandthegherkin · 21/09/2026 17:12

The house price to income ratio tells you all that’s gone wrong. The value of assets has gone sky high relative to the value of labour and it’s much harder to tax asset wealth without choking off investment and innovation. So income keeps taking the hit even as its ability to buy the essentials that some of those increasingly expensive assets represent has withered.

AnswerIsNo · 21/09/2026 17:13

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 17:08

Let’s see. The OBR is assessing now for the budget. They’ll be assessing future figures. The story is more up to date.

Ik if you only stick to BlueSky / Guardian you’ll dismiss the Times but generally they will act on what sources give them.

Bold of you to assume I consume MSM and I have no idea what Bluesky is

Where we most certainly differ is the ability to fact check sources, apply Socratic method and do basic maths and either admit when we're mistaken, or if we don't have the basic confidence to do that, at least slope off somewhere and be quiet for the rest of the afternoon 😀

MyLimeGuide · 21/09/2026 17:13

researchers3 · 21/09/2026 17:02

The Times is a right wing paper, they're not going to publish anything positive about Labour.

The uk is fucked, I agree but it was fucked under the tories first.

I've no idea who or what coukd make it better at this point.

It was actually fucked under labour before the tories

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 17:13

I’ve just had an idea for a new thread!

Funny how some posters never start a thread, incidentally.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 17:14

AnswerIsNo · 21/09/2026 17:13

Bold of you to assume I consume MSM and I have no idea what Bluesky is

Where we most certainly differ is the ability to fact check sources, apply Socratic method and do basic maths and either admit when we're mistaken, or if we don't have the basic confidence to do that, at least slope off somewhere and be quiet for the rest of the afternoon 😀

Sure you can do that. But no your link is not the most up to date. You’re missing pre-budget assessment to determine fiscal headroom.

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 17:15

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 17:09

Yes, you are fond of telling everyone that.

Because it’s true. 🤷‍♀️

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 17:16

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/09/2026 16:47

So what do you think should happen to a long term permanent resident of the UK, who might not have changed their nationality but has made their permanent home here and contributed shedloads of tax over the years, if they are unlucky enough to get cancer? Is that just tough shit?

They can get public services they pay into obviously. But not welfare handouts.

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 17:16

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 17:13

I’ve just had an idea for a new thread!

Funny how some posters never start a thread, incidentally.

Oh, it’s you.

MongooseAlley · 21/09/2026 17:16

AgentJohnson · 21/09/2026 11:38

Yeah because the nano second that Labour has been power correlates exactly with this country’s decline. 🙄

That's guff. It was already heading downhill when Labour were voted in. If the Tories had been doing that a good a job then more people would have voted for them.

You might want to look at the world around the UK and the root problems caused by the orange idiot, his Russian counterpart, Israel and Palestine, ongoing civil wars in Sudan and Ukraine. All of these things impact on the UK. What do you expect Labour to do. Maybe you just want the employment rate to go sky high and for more British people, never mind anyone else, to be out on the street.

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 17:16

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/09/2026 17:07

Not a fan of free speech, then? If annoying protesters deserve to be assaulted by random members of the public? Good to know.

She could have put her hand up and asked a question.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 17:17

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 17:11

Ik you want this to be the case but it probably isn’t.

Given the OBR are assessing now there’s no reason why a source can’t be given data.

You claimed pip was set to double over three years. It isn't.

AnswerIsNo · 21/09/2026 17:17

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 17:14

Sure you can do that. But no your link is not the most up to date. You’re missing pre-budget assessment to determine fiscal headroom.

Interesting

but its still a lot closer to the truth than your meme

you even contradicted yourself with the link from the BBC

keep going, we haven't got into the championship rounds yet

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 17:18

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 17:16

She could have put her hand up and asked a question.

That’s not really how protest works.

JHound · 21/09/2026 17:18

AgentJohnson · 21/09/2026 11:38

Yeah because the nano second that Labour has been power correlates exactly with this country’s decline. 🙄

I often have to check the date of the last election as the way people speak on this board you would think Labour has been in power since the start of the current millenium.

JHound · 21/09/2026 17:19

MongooseAlley · 21/09/2026 17:16

That's guff. It was already heading downhill when Labour were voted in. If the Tories had been doing that a good a job then more people would have voted for them.

You might want to look at the world around the UK and the root problems caused by the orange idiot, his Russian counterpart, Israel and Palestine, ongoing civil wars in Sudan and Ukraine. All of these things impact on the UK. What do you expect Labour to do. Maybe you just want the employment rate to go sky high and for more British people, never mind anyone else, to be out on the street.

I think that’s their point.

nomoreforks · 21/09/2026 17:19

Boris et al were terrible . This crew are even worse (if that were possible). Think we are due for a few tough years sadly.

nearlylovemyusername · 21/09/2026 17:19

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 17:05

What endless rounds of tax rises? Mine hasn’t gone up once.

which is a real shame because you've been asking for this for a long time.

placemats · 21/09/2026 17:19

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 17:16

They can get public services they pay into obviously. But not welfare handouts.

What does "welfare handouts" mean? You need to be more specific.

JHound · 21/09/2026 17:19

MyLimeGuide · 21/09/2026 17:13

It was actually fucked under labour before the tories

So what were the Tories doing for 15 years?!

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 17:20

AnswerIsNo · 21/09/2026 17:17

Interesting

but its still a lot closer to the truth than your meme

you even contradicted yourself with the link from the BBC

keep going, we haven't got into the championship rounds yet

Btw if you don’t consume MSM as you said in your last post where do you get information from?

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 17:21

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 17:13

I’ve just had an idea for a new thread!

Funny how some posters never start a thread, incidentally.

Funny how some posters ignore proof when it is presented to them as requested...

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/09/2026 17:21

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 17:16

They can get public services they pay into obviously. But not welfare handouts.

Oh, right, ok. So you want all foreign nationals to get a tax/NI rebate so that they don't contribute anything towards the cost of the welfare benefits bill but then they can't claim anything from it either.

What about pensions?

nearlylovemyusername · 21/09/2026 17:22

nomoreforks · 21/09/2026 17:19

Boris et al were terrible . This crew are even worse (if that were possible). Think we are due for a few tough years sadly.

I think it might me much worse than few years unfortunately.

I counted days till next election hoping for them to lose majority. But depends on what happens in Starmer's seat AB might call for early election. In this case Labour will come back with much smaller but still majority.
They are already giving away sweeties, so I'm shivering thinking about Oct 28.

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