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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 15:06

A British asylum charity repeatedly tried to persuade judges that lying adult migrants were children, a Telegraph investigation has found.

Care4Calais, which distributes clothing, tents and food to migrants in northern France, supported balding and wrinkled asylum seekers who claimed to be under 18, helping them challenge Home Office assessments that they were adults.

The Telegraph uncovered a series of cases in which the charity helped migrants dispute official assessments of their age.

In one case, a Sudanese man in his 20s was placed in children’s accommodation after Care4Calais referred him to a local council.

Immigration courts later rejected such claims, finding that those involved had tried to deceive the authorities to gain the “advantages” of being treated as a child asylum seeker. These include access to school places and council accommodation rather than hotels used to house adult asylum seekers.

ilovesooty · 21/09/2026 15:07

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 14:11

I'm talking about these who have put in and not just taken out.

Most pensioners are net recipients by the age of 70 and over a lifetime will be taking out more than they've ever paid in.

AnswerIsNo · 21/09/2026 15:08

loulouljh · 21/09/2026 11:45

I agree with you whole heartedly. The country is a mess.

thanks to the previous right-wing government and the Austerity loan we took out to pay for their banker and stockbroker chums to reward for all their hard work in 2008

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 15:08

I do miss Sunak

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 15:08

ilovesooty · 21/09/2026 15:07

Most pensioners are net recipients by the age of 70 and over a lifetime will be taking out more than they've ever paid in.

I would love to see the hard data.

Somehow doubt you have it, though.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:08

ilovesooty · 21/09/2026 15:07

Most pensioners are net recipients by the age of 70 and over a lifetime will be taking out more than they've ever paid in.

They're in good company then.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 15:08

KeepPumping · 21/09/2026 14:54

Or maybe they want to work and it is jobs I meant?

But then they wouldn't have time to go hotel shouting. Or flag raising. Or roundabout painting

loobylou815 · 21/09/2026 15:09

BlackRowan · 21/09/2026 14:41

I absolutely hated the last governments - plural. Sunak was best of their lot. Boris and Truss were the absolute worst. Actually Cameron was also awful.
both for Brexit which is death sentence to the economy and for 14 years of austerity where they squandered the economic growth years and just suffocated all the public services.

bur guess what! We had to endure them until they were voted out. So you will also be able to do it until the next change.

I think it’s you who is embarrassing yourself OP. You’re woefully misinformed and clearly very bitter. Instead of believing all the right wing propaganda you read and placing blame at the doors of people you have a lot more in common with than you think, perhaps consider that the country is in the mess it’s in because the Tories spent over a decade looking after their rich cronies and cutting public services. There are huge corporations and many filthy rich members of society who are using every trick in the book to get out of paying taxes in this country, meaning that there is insufficient money in the pot. Perhaps your focus should be on forcing the government to close tax loopholes holes and ensure ruck corporations and the filthy rich pay their way. Please try to remember that you have a lot more in common with a disabled person claiming benefits than you do the super rich. Most of us are only one change of circumstances away from finding ourselves in a position where we need to claim benefits. I myself was diagnosed with a life changing illness totally out of the blue around 5 years ago. It changed my life beyond recognition and meant I had to fight tooth and nail to keep my well paid job and get adjustments put into place. I’m one of the lucky ones, who knew my rights and was strong enough to fight to stay employed thus never needing to claim benefits. Others aren’t as lucky. I sincerely hope you never find yourself being diagnosed with a horrible illness that impacts your ability to perform normal day to day tasks, but if you did I’d also very much hope that others showed you a lot more compassion and less judgement than you’re demonstrating towards disabled people with this post. Similarly I hope that if a war involving the uk breaks out (as is very likely), other countries would show you and I more compassion than you’re demonstrating for refugees. I’ll simply never understand why people always turn on the most vulnerable in society!

BensonAndStabler · 21/09/2026 15:09

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 14:49

They can't handle people who disagree with them so it's either tantrum throwing, calling posters names and troll hunting. You go on one of their threads though and you're told you're deflecting and doing whataboutery. I've never known a collective bunch of hypocrites as the left. Mods are getting wiser to it now.

Perhaps if the OP responded to comments seeking evidence for her quoted statistics, instead of just replying with the standard phrases "do your research" or "embarrassed for you", we'd actually be able to have a decent, grown-up, intellectual debate.

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:09

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:04

Me and you are famous on their troll hunting corner of Reddit BTW. Wonder why people continue to use MN when they then run off to Reddit slagging off how it's run. I find that so bizarre. Sad but bizarre.

Ha ha really? That is hilarious. I wouldn't know since reddit is apparently a shit heap of toxicity that I don't need to see. Full of low IQ folk as far as I can tell from the snippets people reference.

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Femalemachinest · 21/09/2026 15:09

Differentforgirls · 21/09/2026 14:43

40k 😆

And? This is over 10k more than a general op, that he could be living off instead of expecting top ups.
Obviously this is peanuts to you, but for some (me included) this is a decent wage. I dont live down south where things are super expensive.

loobylou815 · 21/09/2026 15:10

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 14:40

Omg! This is embarrassing for you and anyone who insists on denying reality. I am not surprised.

I've referenced my source. I guess people see what they want to see. Univ of Ox Migration Observatory - suggest you look there. I'm bored with these childish denials now, they tell us a lot though.

I think it’s you who is embarrassing yourself OP. You’re woefully misinformed and clearly very bitter. Instead of believing all the right wing propaganda you read and placing blame at the doors of people you have a lot more in common with than you think, perhaps consider that the country is in the mess it’s in because the Tories spent over a decade looking after their rich cronies and cutting public services. There are huge corporations and many filthy rich members of society who are using every trick in the book to get out of paying taxes in this country, meaning that there is insufficient money in the pot. Perhaps your focus should be on forcing the government to close tax loopholes holes and ensure ruck corporations and the filthy rich pay their way. Please try to remember that you have a lot more in common with a disabled person claiming benefits than you do the super rich. Most of us are only one change of circumstances away from finding ourselves in a position where we need to claim benefits. I myself was diagnosed with a life changing illness totally out of the blue around 5 years ago. It changed my life beyond recognition and meant I had to fight tooth and nail to keep my well paid job and get adjustments put into place. I’m one of the lucky ones, who knew my rights and was strong enough to fight to stay employed thus never needing to claim benefits. Others aren’t as lucky. I sincerely hope you never find yourself being diagnosed with a horrible illness that impacts your ability to perform normal day to day tasks, but if you did I’d also very much hope that others showed you a lot more compassion and less judgement than you’re demonstrating towards disabled people with this post. Similarly I hope that if a war involving the uk breaks out (as is very likely), other countries would show you and I more compassion than you’re demonstrating for refugees. I’ll simply never understand why people always turn on the most vulnerable in society!
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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:10

BensonAndStabler · 21/09/2026 15:09

Perhaps if the OP responded to comments seeking evidence for her quoted statistics, instead of just replying with the standard phrases "do your research" or "embarrassed for you", we'd actually be able to have a decent, grown-up, intellectual debate.

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Uhmmmm I did reference. Perhaps you need to read more closely babe, before you throw around unfounded accusations.

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shecanbe · 21/09/2026 15:11

Did you vote Brexit OP?

I notice Reform are very quiet about the fact that before Brexit, the UK was a member of the EUs Dublin III Regulation, under which we could quickly and legally return unauthorised arrivals back to the first safe EU country they had set foot in.

This acted as a major deterrent. But since the UK officially left the EU and the Dublin agreement expired without a replacement returns policy, the legal mechanism to return arrivals to France has vanished, creating an incentive for gangs to ramp up crossings.

Yet people are still convinced 'man of the people' Farage will 'stop the boats.' What a shambles.

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 15:11

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:09

Ha ha really? That is hilarious. I wouldn't know since reddit is apparently a shit heap of toxicity that I don't need to see. Full of low IQ folk as far as I can tell from the snippets people reference.

You two have really got under their skin.

Congrats.

Mirsine · 21/09/2026 15:11

loulouljh · 21/09/2026 11:45

I agree with you whole heartedly. The country is a mess.

It’s been a mess for over a decade.

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:11

loobylou815 · 21/09/2026 15:10

I think it’s you who is embarrassing yourself OP. You’re woefully misinformed and clearly very bitter. Instead of believing all the right wing propaganda you read and placing blame at the doors of people you have a lot more in common with than you think, perhaps consider that the country is in the mess it’s in because the Tories spent over a decade looking after their rich cronies and cutting public services. There are huge corporations and many filthy rich members of society who are using every trick in the book to get out of paying taxes in this country, meaning that there is insufficient money in the pot. Perhaps your focus should be on forcing the government to close tax loopholes holes and ensure ruck corporations and the filthy rich pay their way. Please try to remember that you have a lot more in common with a disabled person claiming benefits than you do the super rich. Most of us are only one change of circumstances away from finding ourselves in a position where we need to claim benefits. I myself was diagnosed with a life changing illness totally out of the blue around 5 years ago. It changed my life beyond recognition and meant I had to fight tooth and nail to keep my well paid job and get adjustments put into place. I’m one of the lucky ones, who knew my rights and was strong enough to fight to stay employed thus never needing to claim benefits. Others aren’t as lucky. I sincerely hope you never find yourself being diagnosed with a horrible illness that impacts your ability to perform normal day to day tasks, but if you did I’d also very much hope that others showed you a lot more compassion and less judgement than you’re demonstrating towards disabled people with this post. Similarly I hope that if a war involving the uk breaks out (as is very likely), other countries would show you and I more compassion than you’re demonstrating for refugees. I’ll simply never understand why people always turn on the most vulnerable in society!
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Wow - is this AI. A block of ranting text. Do better loobyou815.

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LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:11

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:09

Ha ha really? That is hilarious. I wouldn't know since reddit is apparently a shit heap of toxicity that I don't need to see. Full of low IQ folk as far as I can tell from the snippets people reference.

I was unaware until I had a link pmed to me! Rent free x

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 15:12

BensonAndStabler · 21/09/2026 15:09

Perhaps if the OP responded to comments seeking evidence for her quoted statistics, instead of just replying with the standard phrases "do your research" or "embarrassed for you", we'd actually be able to have a decent, grown-up, intellectual debate.

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The OP did.

Hummingbird233 · 21/09/2026 15:12

Good luck finding a better one. The western world has had its hay day, no government can solve that, despite their claims.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:12

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:11

Wow - is this AI. A block of ranting text. Do better loobyou815.

Right wing propaganda about completes the bingo card.

Hummingbird233 · 21/09/2026 15:12

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 15:11

Wow - is this AI. A block of ranting text. Do better loobyou815.

What an embarrassing response OP 🙊

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 15:13

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 15:11

You two have really got under their skin.

Congrats.

Wish I could post the link. Its hilarious.

ilovesooty · 21/09/2026 15:13

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 14:45

Well I could name change, like a lot of the cowardly folk do (you know the ones don't ya). Alas poor Yorick tis me and I am not ashamed to say it. If only others were more.... transparent..

So all your posts on the site have been under this name then? I'm asking as someone who's never name changed at all.

Schlossadler · 21/09/2026 15:13

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 15:08

But then they wouldn't have time to go hotel shouting. Or flag raising. Or roundabout painting

Is that even a thing?

I’ve seen soup being thrown at art, and plonkers blocking the M25 as well as that Greta creature sailing into an active war zone.

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