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AIBU to refuse family use of our home for holidays?

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SayingNoToFamily · Today 01:24

I'm really cross about this and don't know if I'm being unreasonable. Please help me mumsnetters. I have name changed in case this is outing. Sorry, it is long, so as to avoid a drip feed.

Back story, until very recently we owned a holiday house (just sold it this month). Half of the house belonged to me and DH and the other half was owned by DH parents. We bought our half off another relative and have owned our half for a long time, approximately 20 years.

The house is in a holiday location and has been used by DH siblings (and their partners and school aged children) as a holiday home for all of that time. They never offered any money for their stay. We didn't use it very often as we were not living in that country until a couple of years ago.

Unfortunately it appears that DH siblings viewed the house as something they were entitled to use, rather than a privilege. Obviously their parents also owned half of the house, which makes a difference to how they viewed it. On some occasions the house was left dirty after the siblings had used it and when we arrived to use it we had to clean it. They have also used it without asking, as they all have a key.

We now live in a different holiday location, about 3 hours drive away from the house, so don't need to go there for holidays anymore. But more importantly we have never rented the house, so we didn't ever benefit financially, but it cost us money in terms of maintenance. This is the reason for wanting to sell.

DH siblings have had many years of free holidays, at our expense, mainly during school holidays, when accommodation is expensive. Sadly for them with the sale of the house this has now come to an end.

There is a school holiday coming up here very soon. We as a family (me, DH and our DCs) are going overseas for the holidays, meaning our main house (our permanent family home) will be empty. One of DH siblings, who would usually go to the holiday home, has messaged him to say she doesn't know how she's going to entertain her DCs over the holiday and asking if our house is on offer to them.

I am really annoyed about this. It feels like after years and years of having free holidays in the holiday house at our expense, they now want to use our own home as an alternative.

I don't want them to use it. I don't want the stress of having to get our house ready for guests when we we're already preparing for our own trip. I dont like the idea of other people using our home when were not there. But also I think this is really cheeky and they seem to expect us to still be responsible for providing them with a free holiday.

I think allowing them to use our own house now is effectively sending the message to them that this is now their holiday home, as a replacement and sets a precedent that whenever we are away they can use it. AIBU to not want them to use it?

DH does sort of agree with me on this, however instead wants to tell them they can come to ours when we are there for a 'beach holiday'. Whilst I don't have a problem with then coming to stay for a couple of days when we're here, I don't think he should be starting to offer them 'beach holidays ' in our house at this point, being so close to the sale of the holiday house, as in my opinion it's still giving them the impression that we're responsible for providing them with holidays.

Any advice welcome. Thanks for reading!

OP posts:
Hollyholiday2 · Today 05:52

I am in nearly the exact same situation. We own a holiday home in my home country which my siblings still living there use probably more than us. We live in London so when we go away my siblings often come to stay in our house as use it as a holiday home. I think difference is they treat both houses with respect and I get on with them very well so just happy to share (and they look after our cats in London).

Just a different perspective.

blondeboobshell · Today 05:58

I’d just say happy for you to visit when we are here but not comfortable with using our home as a holiday home. If they are an hour away they can do day trips surely. ? If dh does cave I’d expect them to over the cost of a deep clean

Monpetitchouchou · Today 05:59

Gosh! Think I’m going to be a lone voice here.

We live in a major city and I’ve always been happy for siblings and children to use our home as a base whilst we’ve been on holiday. In fact I’ve been happy the house isn’t empty.

However, siblings are always grateful and would reciprocate, if you don’t want them in your house I think that’s fine, especially if they could afford to rent somewhere but I don’t think it’s an outrageous ask.

thepariscrimefiles · Today 05:59

99bottlesofkombucha · Today 04:10

Are you a tidy person? I’m not so I’d probably say sorry we have a few things going on and it’s hard enough to pack, we simply will not be able to have the house ready for other people to stay in, it would be a big extra load we aren’t up for. We would love you to visit sometime though so when we’re back we should see if there are any dates.

whatever you come up with it’s a no for them staying there while you’re not.

I'm pretty sure that OP's SIL would just say that she wouldn't mind the mess. OP needs to make it clear that her home isn't the new holiday home and no-one will be having a holiday there, whether OP and her DH are there or not.

TeaCupTinsel · Today 05:59

This would be the hill I'd die on. I'd absolutely not entertain people using my home for their holiday.
It'd be different if you were there and invited them to stay with you but absolutely never alone. They've had free holidays for years...let them pay like the rest of us! Especially after how they treated the holiday home.

Motnight · Today 06:01

Your DH seems to be the weakest link here, Op!

Oobalooba · Today 06:10

Why did they ask you and your DH to buy out the half of the house when you were the only ones not in that country and therefore less able to use it? Surely it would have made more sense for one of his other siblings, or both of them, to buy it out?

KWhOoo · Today 06:11

In front of your husband ask her why she wants to stay. When she describes the attractions in your area it will expose the difference between his family and yours (who come to see you).

JoshLymanSwagger · Today 06:13

@SayingNoToFamily Not a chance!
Don't let these freeloaders stay over and most importantly, DO NOT give them a key to your home.
Make sure it's locked up like Fort Knox.
If your DH wants to entertain family, he can point them to an Airbnb, or similar, close by and they can pay just like anyone else.

Xkk · Today 06:15

StormInaDcup99 · Today 03:52

You could say something like....

"I'm sorry, but we can't make exceptions to our house security and insurance rules while we're out of town. The house has to remain empty while we are away. Let me know if you want some local hotel recommendations"

Rinse and repeat
...

Absolutely not, why do they need to give reason as insurance? No, even if insurance was not a problem, OP still (and rightfully so) say no so why use excuses? A "no, this is our house, of course you can not stay in my house!" is enough!

99bottlesofkombucha · Today 06:17

thepariscrimefiles · Today 05:59

I'm pretty sure that OP's SIL would just say that she wouldn't mind the mess. OP needs to make it clear that her home isn't the new holiday home and no-one will be having a holiday there, whether OP and her DH are there or not.

Yes of course she would, but you just say I know but I mind, I know in my head you wouldn’t mind but I just feel sick at the thought of it and I couldn’t enjoy my holiday and I’d be thinking about all the mess and the kids things and if their things were out of place then they’d be mad at me and I’d just hate it. We always left the holiday place so clean you didnt though and I just couldn’t, of course you wouldn’t really mind but I just couldn’t leave the house like that.

it’s just one way of communicating without flat out arguing, where you manufacture a level of emotion and personal feeling that it’s hard to argue with. I find ‘N O spells no’ easier but others find that way impossible.

Ceramiq · Today 06:17

Just say no. You don't have to give a reason.

Holdinguphalfthesky · Today 06:29

I would refuse to leave my home to go abroad rather than risk some entitled in-law (or anyone, actually) sneaking in behind my back and treating it like an air BnB. Hard no, and if I found my husband had suggested that lending it might be possible, it would be grounds for divorce.

That’s your home!

Astra53 · Today 06:34

Absolutely not. The holiday home was a neutral space, your own home is a private domain.

Conniebygaslight · Today 06:36

It’s bloody outrageous OP. Absolutely not!

ACynicalDad · Today 06:38

If they have an expectation for every holiday you need a fire break. And if you let one sibling in then the others will want to come.

I ’d invite nobody for (at least) a year, don’t let them over your threshold! When they do come it’s primarily to see you, not for a holiday.

pollyglot · Today 06:41

So were you paying half of the water, power, gas, council tax while they were using it, not you? Who replaced the worn-out fittings and fixtures? Whose towels and sheets etc did they use? Sounds like such entitlement!

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · Today 06:41

Your home is different from a holiday home. I wouldn't want anyone staying in my home when I'm not there. A home is a sanctuary and some of the things family do when staying here with us drive me potty so I really wouldn't want them having free rein when I'm away.

enidblythe · Today 06:42

Under no circumstances should you cave. My sister did this and for years her kids hated the fact that their bedrooms toys and stuff were all moved played with and changed when they got home from holidays, they only told her when they were late teens how it used ruin their family holidays as they would be thinking about how when they got home all their stuff would have changed / been moved / etc. she felt terrible.

i would protect your family’s peace and from the offset state thst they are welcome to visit while you are there for short 2 night stays but when you are not in your family home it is not someone’s else’s family home.
send some links to local air b n b or hotels and invite them to come spend time with you while you are present.

PurpleThistle7 · Today 06:52

Stuck on the part where they live an hour away. How bizarre.

Anyway, I’d have no issue saying no myself if my husband was too pathetic to stand up to his grabby lazy siblings. I’d be super angry with my husband for putting me into this situation but I would die on this hill. Absolutely not, no chance. I can’t believe you’ve put up with this for so long.

rookiemere · Today 06:55

Absolutely not !
I am in a slightly similar situation and the thing with CF relatives is that they begin to see this as their right. I have put boundaries down with relatives just now and it’s a painful process. What’s particularly hurtful is they don’t seem to acknowledge our previous efforts and kindness, just resent the inevitable boundaries, nor do they reflect on their own lack of generosity and hosting when we were at their location.

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