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AIBU to refuse family use of our home for holidays?

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SayingNoToFamily · Today 01:24

I'm really cross about this and don't know if I'm being unreasonable. Please help me mumsnetters. I have name changed in case this is outing. Sorry, it is long, so as to avoid a drip feed.

Back story, until very recently we owned a holiday house (just sold it this month). Half of the house belonged to me and DH and the other half was owned by DH parents. We bought our half off another relative and have owned our half for a long time, approximately 20 years.

The house is in a holiday location and has been used by DH siblings (and their partners and school aged children) as a holiday home for all of that time. They never offered any money for their stay. We didn't use it very often as we were not living in that country until a couple of years ago.

Unfortunately it appears that DH siblings viewed the house as something they were entitled to use, rather than a privilege. Obviously their parents also owned half of the house, which makes a difference to how they viewed it. On some occasions the house was left dirty after the siblings had used it and when we arrived to use it we had to clean it. They have also used it without asking, as they all have a key.

We now live in a different holiday location, about 3 hours drive away from the house, so don't need to go there for holidays anymore. But more importantly we have never rented the house, so we didn't ever benefit financially, but it cost us money in terms of maintenance. This is the reason for wanting to sell.

DH siblings have had many years of free holidays, at our expense, mainly during school holidays, when accommodation is expensive. Sadly for them with the sale of the house this has now come to an end.

There is a school holiday coming up here very soon. We as a family (me, DH and our DCs) are going overseas for the holidays, meaning our main house (our permanent family home) will be empty. One of DH siblings, who would usually go to the holiday home, has messaged him to say she doesn't know how she's going to entertain her DCs over the holiday and asking if our house is on offer to them.

I am really annoyed about this. It feels like after years and years of having free holidays in the holiday house at our expense, they now want to use our own home as an alternative.

I don't want them to use it. I don't want the stress of having to get our house ready for guests when we we're already preparing for our own trip. I dont like the idea of other people using our home when were not there. But also I think this is really cheeky and they seem to expect us to still be responsible for providing them with a free holiday.

I think allowing them to use our own house now is effectively sending the message to them that this is now their holiday home, as a replacement and sets a precedent that whenever we are away they can use it. AIBU to not want them to use it?

DH does sort of agree with me on this, however instead wants to tell them they can come to ours when we are there for a 'beach holiday'. Whilst I don't have a problem with then coming to stay for a couple of days when we're here, I don't think he should be starting to offer them 'beach holidays ' in our house at this point, being so close to the sale of the holiday house, as in my opinion it's still giving them the impression that we're responsible for providing them with holidays.

Any advice welcome. Thanks for reading!

OP posts:
Bogstandardname · Today 08:13

Some people are very protective of their privacy. Apart from that, imagine coming back to your home, tired after travelling, to have to start cleaning and changing bed linen etc., as it would appear that the siblings have little respect and leave their detritus for other people to clean up.

Starlight7080 · Today 08:14

You have a Dh problem. He needs to say no . It will become a regular thing. And I bet he says yes to them staying when you are away . He obviously doesnt want to be the bad guy .

LittleWeasel · Today 08:14

There is nothing worse than entitled choosing beggars who want to freeload into perpetuity.

You need to break the cycle.
”No, visits when we are not there”.

No excuses, no spare key given out, Nothing,

JustMarriedBecca · Today 08:14

We are similar. I don't spend any time preparing the house. I tell them they are welcome, they'll need X double sets of bedding ("probably easier to bring your own and wash at home after") and to avoid any arguments, you can get a cleaner in after they have left - cost of house clean will be £150.
You're setting boundaries. I also quite like having people here for safety AND I get my house cleaned before I get back from holiday so 👏

NerdyBird · Today 08:15

The thing is, it was never your (and DHs) holiday home. To them, it has always been their family holiday home, and they have never really thought about who is footing the bill, because no-one ever has really, not even DH parents. They inherited it.

I’m interested as to why the holiday home was sold - was it to buy your new home?

But for now, I don’t think you can trust DH to hold the line on his own. You need to be involved to make sure he doesn’t give in or offer something equally as undesirable.

CrazyCatLady2026 · Today 08:16

Just tell them "sorry that doesn't work for us, this is our personal home and we won't be there for those dates. If you want to visit us thats fine but we don't want people staying without us there."

Firefly100 · Today 08:18

The problem, as you have realised, is that they have got quite used to having a holiday home and are looking for a replacement. You would be a fool to do this NOW at the time the old home is being sold as it totally sets the precedent for future school holidays. You can predict now the message next year asking which weeks you are going on holiday to book their next trip. It is very important they get out of the habit of relying on you providing a holiday. Even if DH wants to invite them, it can’t be this year and should be out of holiday season so the link is broken. Be firm with DP that this is your home and you are not happy for it to be treated as a free holiday by family. Ever. He should tell CF SiL that no, you are not comfortable with anyone using your home as a holiday house and wish her luck in finding a solution for the summer holidays. Maybe suggest some locations you have been on holiday to in the past (and paid for) that you enjoyed.

Washingupdone · Today 08:18

I had the same problem DH’s parents owned a ski flat. His siblings used it and left it dirty, even to leaving pins on the the floor when I had a crawling baby. It was used throughout the year, renting it out was DH’s job as was the upkeep. Our summer holidays were spent deep cleaning, painting and repairing.
Don’t start a something that will be excepted every holiday, either in one place or the other.

Neuronimo · Today 08:20

YANBU Oh absolutely not that is a slippery slope. I can't believe how entitled they are! Stand firm OP, a couple of days when you are there tops.

YourJoyousDenimExpert · Today 08:20

Completely reasonable to say no - forever.
Also agree that coming to stay with you should not be labelled ‘a beach holiday’ - it should be a visit to you as a family (which may include all sorts
of activities together or separately- but is not the equivalent of you providing holiday accommodation!)
It’s your home - end of discussion- and DH needs to deliver a clear message. Don’t make excuses ( like it’s not tidy) as SIL will try to talk round those. Loads of people never have free holiday accommodation- SIL will just need to accept things have changed.

BananaPeels · Today 08:20

TheEdgyMoose · Today 08:08

We often have family stay in our house when we are away. I like having someone there rather than leaving it empty. The difference is we are also welcome to stay in their homes - my SIL has a property abroad that she actively encourages us to use - and they leave the place clean and tidy.

I don't see a problem with them asking. But it's your home so you are perfectly entitled to say no if you aren't comfortable with it.

"DH siblings have had many years of free holidays, at our expense"
Not sure what you mean by this. How was it at your expense? Surely if you were paying for the property anyway, they didn't cost you any extra. If you were rarely using it then you benefitted from a more regular presence rather than it just sitting empty?

utilities/ wear and tear/ cleaning costs?

ChoppyWalters · Today 08:30

I would handle this myself rather than leave it to a weak husband. Better to look the bad guy rather than the schmuck.

And I would not be giving them a long response either, no helpful suggestions about finding them alternative accommodation, just a pithy “No, this our home, not a holiday let, and we won’t be letting people use it as one.” No reference to beach holidays or mess, just no.

Slugfest · Today 08:30

Just say no OP, it is your home, not a holiday home. You need to have a firm word with your DH and get him onside with this.

diddl · Today 08:31

Nope, it's your home & not a free for all for holidays like the other was.

I'm surprised you kept the other house for so long the way they treated it!

Your husband is ridiculous.

PuppyMonkey · Today 08:31

As with most CFs, the best reply is: “Lol.”

HatStickBoots · Today 08:35

Reading all this I’m reminded of the Griswalds in National Lampoons “vacation” films, the CF brother’s family! They will inevitably ask why they can’t use your new home as a holiday home and as your DH is their brother they will wear him down. Tell them straight about about all the problems they left behind when they stayed before and just say No more.

Kingunderthemountain · Today 08:36

Just say no and I hope no one in your family has a key so they can’t sneak in anyway. It’s your home not a holiday let. They can go and pay for somewhere like normal folk. They’ve had enough freebies.

Sereine · Today 08:36

Btc76 · Today 02:27

Beggars can’t be choosers. Of course you are not going to let they stay at your family home, there will be no one replying here who has ever heard of such an arrangement. You’ve effectively created a situation where you are the government and these relations are the welfare claimants. Deliver a hard NO!

What government hands out free holidays?

Cherrysoup · Today 08:37

DH problem. Your family stay because they live in a different country. CF sil/bil want to travel an hour (an hour!) to use your home as a holiday. Just no! We merrily travel 2 hours for lunch with my bil. We never stay over. I’d even go so far as to say that they can’t stay over. They’ve taken the piss for years, time to put a line under that, this is not a holiday house, it’s your permanent home.

I’ve just moved to a popular tourist area, but quite rural. I cannot imagine family asking to stay for a holiday! 🤬

Whothought · Today 08:38

“It’s a big change for everyone, but we really don’t want our home to become the next [Holiday Home]. You need to look around for a different solution for getaways.”@AmnesiacsDream

This. It’s perfect

user1471538275 · Today 08:38

Never ever allow them to have a key. They sound like the sort that would prefer to seek forgiveness than ask permission.

You'd come back from holiday to a wrecked home.

This would be an absolutely line in the sand for me with DH, which means they never house sit, never look after pets there or water plants - so if this is something you want from them then you're stuck.

Daisymail · Today 08:40

Lizzieregina · Today 01:29

Don’t go down the road of being their new holiday home!! If they had waited for an invitation, I’d say maybe, but assuming that your family home is on offer is just cheeky.

You’ll regret it if you start as it sounds like there’s more than one sibling. You’ll be running a hotel!

Absolutely this! This is your HOME not an airbnb!

AmnesiacsDream · Today 08:41

I am unfortunately, as some of you have suggested, quite concerned that DH will indeed cave and say they can use it...
Thanks for some of the ideas for responses, I do think DH should be the one to deliver this, not leaving me to look like the bad guy.

If your biggest concern is that the freeloading behaviour will be transferred to your home, I would ignore the ideal that DH should be the one to deliver the message and focus on the end result of not having them constantly pushing boundaries to stay with you (and if you're there that means hosting - will they expect you to pay for food and drink? Activities?...). But I guess if there's a lot of value in not being "the bad guy" that might might make the risk of DH caving less of a concern?

Sereine · Today 08:42

I am unfortunately, as some of you have suggested, quite concerned that DH will indeed cave and say they can use it.

Ask him if he's prepared to do all the tidying up, cleaning and locking things away before they come, plus the cleaning and washing after they go. Remind him that it definitely won't be a one off if he says yes, SIL and BIL will be expecting to use your house regularly for free holidays for years to come.

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 08:50

I'm happy to share things with my family. We always do stuff like that and no money changes hand. You seem very tight.