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AIBU to find this name offensive?

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Snowleopardsspots · Today 15:46

Blindness is a serious disability. Not some word to be chucked around for marketing attention. There are a lot of other words that could have been used - mystery box, suprise box.

AIBU to find this name offensive?
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Mondaytuesdayhappydays · Today 16:40

Catapultaway · Today 16:04

Dont worry, doubt they'll see it.

Chapeau ! X

TigerRag · Today 16:40

Purplepinkandpaper · Today 16:39

Just asked my mum, who is blind, and she doesn’t like the name and wouldn’t buy a ‘blind box’ product. I am partially sighted and feel the same.

I'm partially sighted too and don't like it. Not offended by it though

Minasama · Today 16:41

I agree that if I were their marketing team I’d have chosen another word, but I find it hard to believe that this would be classed as offensive by many people.

Lollipopsicle · Today 16:41

And yet someone else looking for something to be offended by... Yawn.

MyThreeWords · Today 16:42

I don't understand how the mere use of the word - in a context that is not at all negative - is offensive just because one among its several usages relates to a disability. People with disabilities aren't seeking to lay exclusive claim to commonly used words. Why would they?

And where would it stop? Is it offensive to talk about disabling a burglar alarm? Or to call a book cerebral? Or to use the word 'down' to name little soft feathers?

Or perhaps the many uses of 'blind' are only offensive because they usually invoke a similar meaning to that which is present in the disability term (not being able to see something)? But isn't that the same as implying a taboo around the very idea of blindness, a taboo so strong that we aren't meant ever to hint at it accidentally in our language use? That feels very last century.

Onefairfish · Today 16:42

CrazyMidget · Today 15:57

What on earth is blind baking?

It’s when you bake a pie case without the filling. Normally you would put special (non edible) baking balls in the case.

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · Today 16:43

I’m currently blind-drink on a blind-date
He’s actually so nice it’s blind-sided me
To be fair it’s been a blinding- night so far

Reckon after drinking home around a few blind-bends we might go back to his and blind-bake a pie!

BugJuice · Today 16:45

Releasemeplease · Today 16:13

Since when?

I've never heard it used in this way.

I agree with OP that it is totaly inappropriate. And actually makes the product unappealing, and certainly the opposite of fun.

My children have been badgering me for ‘blind bags’ since seeing them in toy shops aged around 3. They’re teens now.

IglesiasPiggl · Today 16:45

daisyydaisyy · Today 16:28

You sound completely fucking batshit, op.

Putting the words "bat" and "shit" together is extremely offensive to the bat community. I wish to complain on their behalf.....

ElizabethNatalie · Today 16:46

If it helps anyone, I'm visually impaired and not fussed by Marks but am offended by how shite all these blind jokes are.

SALaw · Today 16:47

Blind date, blind marking, blind tasting etc etc…?

IglesiasPiggl · Today 16:47

BugJuice · Today 16:45

My children have been badgering me for ‘blind bags’ since seeing them in toy shops aged around 3. They’re teens now.

I think this is a misrepresentation of badgers and most offensive. Apologize immediately! 😂

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 16:48

BillieWiper · Today 16:31

Why isn't black sheep ok? It means you stand out as different in an homogenous group where to do so can be a disadvantage. Unless you're trying to say the expression really means 'black person' and it's being used as a racist insult?!

Where were you in the 2010s?!

goggle summary

The phrase "black sheep" is controversial because some critics view it as reinforcing a negative association with the color black, while historians and linguists trace its roots to animal husbandry. 1, 2]
True Origins of the Phrase

  • Fleece value: The idiom comes from real sheep that are born with black wool instead of white. 1, 2]
  • Lower quality: Black wool was historically worth less because it could not be easily dyed different colors. 1, 2]
  • Standing out: A black sheep looked very different in a standard white flock, which led to the metaphor for an outcast or a family member who does not fit in. 1, 2]
  • Superstition: In 18th- and 19th-century England, a black sheep was sometimes viewed through a superstitious lens as the mark of the devil or bad luck. 1]
The Nursery Rhyme Debate ("Baa Baa Black Sheep")
  • Slavery rumors: Some people claimed the classic nursery rhyme Baa Baa Black Sheep was linked to the transatlantic slave trade. 1, 2]
  • Historical consensus: Scholars widely agree the rhyme has nothing to do with slavery. Most historians tie it to the Great Custom, a 13th-century wool tax imposed by King Edward I that split wool profits between the king, the church, and the farmer. 1]
  • Toy modifications: Some modern toy makers and nurseries altered the lyrics to phrases like "baa baa sheep sheep" out of what critics call over-cautious or misguided political correctness. 1]
Modern Linguistic Controversy
  • Racial connotations: Some modern anti-racism educators and trainers argue that phrases using "black" to mean bad, unwanted, or inferior (such as black sheep, blacklist, or blackmail) carry negative psychological weight tied to historical colorism. 1]
  • Counter-arguments: Many linguists and everyday speakers counter that the idiom is completely non-racial, grounded strictly in agricultural reality, and that trying to sanitize it creates unnecessary controversy over everyday words. 1]
  • Personal reclamation: In family and social contexts, many people who feel like outsiders now wear the title of "black sheep" with pride as a symbol of personal independence and authenticity. 1]

The disturbing truth behind 3 nursery rhymes | All About History

You’ll never look at these children’s rhymes the same way again

https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/people-politics/the-disturbing-origins-of-3-nursery-rhymes/

Engaged249 · Today 16:49

Oh shut up

Releasemeplease · Today 16:49

BugJuice · Today 16:45

My children have been badgering me for ‘blind bags’ since seeing them in toy shops aged around 3. They’re teens now.

Perhaps it's a regional or generational thing then.
Certainly I've never heard of it.

KaleidoscopeSmile · Today 16:50

I think the good thing about threads like this is that you can identify those arseholes who are offended by made-up stuff like this and look out for their amusing nonsense on other threads

BugJuice · Today 16:50

Releasemeplease · Today 16:49

Perhaps it's a regional or generational thing then.
Certainly I've never heard of it.

Probably generational, yes, as they’re aimed at children.
Maybe regional, we live in London.

AmyDudley · Today 16:51

I'm visually impaired, I'm fine with it, blind can mean sightless or hidden from view (amongst other things) as in the blind spot when driving. (I don't drive, don't worry !)
When my sightless friend and I go out together we joke about us being literally the blind leading the blind, although having a bit more sight I bumble us along in the right general direction of where we want to go. Using or not using the word blind makes not the slightest difference to our disability

The piggies look quite cute to me, but then again I can't see them very well so they could be tacky as all get out !!

KaleidoscopeSmile · Today 16:51

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 16:48

Where were you in the 2010s?!

goggle summary

The phrase "black sheep" is controversial because some critics view it as reinforcing a negative association with the color black, while historians and linguists trace its roots to animal husbandry. 1, 2]
True Origins of the Phrase

  • Fleece value: The idiom comes from real sheep that are born with black wool instead of white. 1, 2]
  • Lower quality: Black wool was historically worth less because it could not be easily dyed different colors. 1, 2]
  • Standing out: A black sheep looked very different in a standard white flock, which led to the metaphor for an outcast or a family member who does not fit in. 1, 2]
  • Superstition: In 18th- and 19th-century England, a black sheep was sometimes viewed through a superstitious lens as the mark of the devil or bad luck. 1]
The Nursery Rhyme Debate ("Baa Baa Black Sheep")
  • Slavery rumors: Some people claimed the classic nursery rhyme Baa Baa Black Sheep was linked to the transatlantic slave trade. 1, 2]
  • Historical consensus: Scholars widely agree the rhyme has nothing to do with slavery. Most historians tie it to the Great Custom, a 13th-century wool tax imposed by King Edward I that split wool profits between the king, the church, and the farmer. 1]
  • Toy modifications: Some modern toy makers and nurseries altered the lyrics to phrases like "baa baa sheep sheep" out of what critics call over-cautious or misguided political correctness. 1]
Modern Linguistic Controversy
  • Racial connotations: Some modern anti-racism educators and trainers argue that phrases using "black" to mean bad, unwanted, or inferior (such as black sheep, blacklist, or blackmail) carry negative psychological weight tied to historical colorism. 1]
  • Counter-arguments: Many linguists and everyday speakers counter that the idiom is completely non-racial, grounded strictly in agricultural reality, and that trying to sanitize it creates unnecessary controversy over everyday words. 1]
  • Personal reclamation: In family and social contexts, many people who feel like outsiders now wear the title of "black sheep" with pride as a symbol of personal independence and authenticity. 1]

This is the most bullshit thing I've read on here in a long time. Utterly tortuous.

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 16:51

KaleidoscopeSmile · Today 16:50

I think the good thing about threads like this is that you can identify those arseholes who are offended by made-up stuff like this and look out for their amusing nonsense on other threads

And you can tell the pig headed thickies who refuse to consider or think about anything in any depth.

its like the OAPs who argue “blind” (ha) it’s ok to say Darkie or pa*ki because that’s what they said in their day.

Foolish1984 · Today 16:52

Releasemeplease · Today 16:13

Since when?

I've never heard it used in this way.

I agree with OP that it is totaly inappropriate. And actually makes the product unappealing, and certainly the opposite of fun.

So what do you think about blind dates then?

Dexternight · Today 16:53

It is a rubbish title 'blind box'.
Surprise box sounds better.

AmyDudley · Today 16:53

In other M and S news, they are doing a ginger and white chocolate cake which looks pretty damn good.

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 16:54

KaleidoscopeSmile · Today 16:51

This is the most bullshit thing I've read on here in a long time. Utterly tortuous.

I long for the heady days 20 years ago of globalisation and wealth and caring about other citizens rather than this fan girling facists inproverished hateful present

AgnesX · Today 16:54

Are you blind and have experience of it detracting or making your disability less serious?

If not then YABU. It's like a wheelchair user saying that they were walking somewhere when they actually aren't.

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