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To think that Labour’s/Andy Burnham’s tariffs on Jewish Settlers and their statement on Palestine is a well timed publicity stunt to divert attention from their complete lack of inaction regarding illegal migrants arriving by boat.

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bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 06:50

I don’t meant to be cynical but I think Labour have done this to carry favour with those who want to ditch Labour for the Green Party. We all know Labour isn’t run by its leader, instead by their back benchers!

What the Settlers are doing on the West Bank is horrific, however Labour were not being so vocal a few weeks ago when the rest of the world was. It feels a ‘well-timed’ publicity stunt to take away attention from their complete inaction about the amount of illegal immigrants arriving in this country. I was appalled by the protests over the weekend. And as a woman with a daughter, these thugs do not protest in my name. However, the government MUST address the fact that we have thousands of undocumented male immigrants coming into the UK free to go wherever they want. Andy Burnham is happy to house them in their thousands wherever he sees fit and I have not heard him OR his government talk about women’s safety once. Burnham can make as many cosy ‘I’m just a man who goes to Greggs and likes a pint.’ Videos as he wants but until he acknowledges how undocumented men pose a great risk to women’s safety, I won’t be supporting him or his party.

Please do not come up with facts and stats about white British males, I am acutely aware of the violence they also inflict against women and equally appalled by the Government’s inaction over this. But I find it horrific that if you have no documents and the government have no idea who you are you’re free to roam. This should not be allowed.

I feel so ignored as a woman in the UK our safety and wellbeing is way down the governments’ long list of priorities. I’m sick of the back benchers and those swaying to the far left or far right being given so much air time, whilst those of us in the middle are ignored day in and day out I voted for Labour in the last election but never again!

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bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:22

@WingnutSOSwhy? Why not the collective outrage for the other atrocities I’ve mentioned? I don’t see mass protests, I don’t see governments decrying the sexual violence against women in these conflict zones.

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Thepeopleversuswork · 09/09/2026 07:23

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:13

@Thepeopleversusworki haven’t said that the small boat crossings haven’t decreased but the I have said the numbers arriving are still high and I would say it is the biggest issue in our country right now! I don’t really care for Milliband’s pet projects. With the previous government it was Net Zero and with this one it is Palestine. My main issue, is the fact that thousands of undocumented men are entering the country but for some reason, I’m meant to be OK with that?

Hardly Miliband’s “pet project”. Its a coordinated move by the governments of several of the world’s largest democracies. Oh and by the way he is Foreign Secretary.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/09/2026 07:23

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:21

@NorthernExpatsomeone said he was ‘passionate’ about Palestine. He’s only Passionate about it because he’s foreign secretary. And yes I really dislike him - it started when I saw him eating a bacon sandwich!

It's very shallow to dislike someone because of the way they eat.

This comment strongly suggests that you are someone who is very easily influenced by the tabloid newspapers.

If that is the case, it would go a long way to explain the lack of logical thought in your opening post.

IceCreamCone543 · 09/09/2026 07:23

allthiscarryon · 09/09/2026 07:17

PMs have to deal with more than one thing at a time. The Israelis are behaving like genocidal thugs, so of course the world needs to start sanctioning.
Happened with South Africa too during apartheid though I doubt the Israeli govn will pay much attention.

Indeed they are. Now they are having a little temper tantrum over being called out for it.

WingnutSOS · 09/09/2026 07:25

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:20

@WingnutSOSinsane comment to make when you don’t know where me or my family are from! If you could share a list of things I’m allowed to be outraged about that would be great.

well you could start getting outraged about how your social media algorithm has done a number on you…..

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:25

@MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack 😂😂😂 yes it’s really shallow! I wasn’t being serious! Sometimes you can be ironic on Mumsnet!

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ArtieChoke · 09/09/2026 07:25

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:13

@Thepeopleversusworki haven’t said that the small boat crossings haven’t decreased but the I have said the numbers arriving are still high and I would say it is the biggest issue in our country right now! I don’t really care for Milliband’s pet projects. With the previous government it was Net Zero and with this one it is Palestine. My main issue, is the fact that thousands of undocumented men are entering the country but for some reason, I’m meant to be OK with that?

No indeed you suggest though that a drop in numbers would be covered up by doing something else

its not logical

surely Labour wouldn’t cover up small boat arrival numbers going down

LivingDeadGirlUK · 09/09/2026 07:26

It's been interesting seeing the ramp up from Reform and other far right players now its been shown the Labour government has made a positive impact on their main issue.

Limeandfigs · 09/09/2026 07:26

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:22

@WingnutSOSwhy? Why not the collective outrage for the other atrocities I’ve mentioned? I don’t see mass protests, I don’t see governments decrying the sexual violence against women in these conflict zones.

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Sanctions at this level are hard to apply to countries like Sudan, the DRC etc because we don't do trade with them on the same level.

If you want to start some protest movements to get more attention then I'm sure it would be welcomed too.

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:26

@WingnutSOS😂😂 why because I care about violence against women?

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Zonder · 09/09/2026 07:27

TremendousFlatulence · 09/09/2026 07:04

"A complete lack of inaction..." Ummm - doesn't that mean...?

And why do people write their titles like bloody essays?

Yes! I love that @bluespotsandztarz is complaining about a lack of inaction! Go Burnham!

Also "however Labour were not being so vocal a few weeks ago when the rest of the world was.". So like before Burnham was PM? He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't!

Summerhillsquare · 09/09/2026 07:27

Top work on the sowing division talking points there ! "Please don't quote facts and stats", yeah, why let them get in the way of a good story? Full marks!

WingnutSOS · 09/09/2026 07:28

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:26

@WingnutSOS😂😂 why because I care about violence against women?

As If anyone thinks that’s the driver for the “stop the boats” rhetoric.

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:29

@Limeandfigsyes! I support a lot of charities that help women impacted by male violence, including Action Aid and WomenKind and in the UK I am active part of Women’s Aid!

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/09/2026 07:29

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:25

@MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack 😂😂😂 yes it’s really shallow! I wasn’t being serious! Sometimes you can be ironic on Mumsnet!

Oh. Was your comment supposed to be funny? What were you trying to achieve through your "irony" exactly?

In the context of your other posts, it seemed entirely believable to me that you meant it seriously.

monkeysox · 09/09/2026 07:30

Limeandfigs · 09/09/2026 06:57

You're completely right, there is a lack of inaction.

Thanks to the various actions taken, small boat crossings are actually down in numbers from previous years.

This.

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:30

@WingnutSOSso I am not allowed to have an opinion? Genuinely, all you’ve done is just tell me what I am allowed to think. It must be a great view from up there in your ivory tower.

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PinkWaffleMaker · 09/09/2026 07:31

It’s almost as if we should never have left the EU and we need more safe and legal routes for migrants to claim asylum before they get here.

WingnutSOS · 09/09/2026 07:31

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:30

@WingnutSOSso I am not allowed to have an opinion? Genuinely, all you’ve done is just tell me what I am allowed to think. It must be a great view from up there in your ivory tower.

By all means have an opinion. Don’t expect others to share it.

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:32

@PinkWaffleMakeryes! Sadly if only that was the case!

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Zonder · 09/09/2026 07:33

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:26

@WingnutSOS😂😂 why because I care about violence against women?

Are you also pushing for action against the men who attacked the women at the Reform conference? That made my "blood boil", as did Farage's response from the stage as he watched.

Zonder · 09/09/2026 07:34

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:30

@WingnutSOSso I am not allowed to have an opinion? Genuinely, all you’ve done is just tell me what I am allowed to think. It must be a great view from up there in your ivory tower.

Projection?

Allswellthatendswelll · 09/09/2026 07:34

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:22

@WingnutSOSwhy? Why not the collective outrage for the other atrocities I’ve mentioned? I don’t see mass protests, I don’t see governments decrying the sexual violence against women in these conflict zones.

We don't have strong trade or diplomatic links with places like the Sudan. Whereas Israel is our ally who we have historically strong links with. We also have a policy of supporting a two state solution. So it's a consistent part of our foreign policy to sanction them for allowing ethnic cleansing.

However as you object to someone for a picture of them eating something ten years ago I suspect nuance is lost on you to be honest.

JasmineTea11 · 09/09/2026 07:34

No, the numbers of people arriving by boat, and migration generally, are significantly down on recent years, so your theory doesn't add up.

However the sanctions are just a token signal, and probably won't make any difference to Israeli govt.

SamTR1 · 09/09/2026 07:36

It’s a crass tactic to pander to the Muslim vote in the upcoming by-election resulting from Starmer’s exit which will be Labour vs Green.

I never thought I’d have to live being governed by an openly anti semitic government. I can’t imagine how awful it must be for any Jewish people as they are seen as collateral damage by the Labour Party who are reliant on the Muslim vote to survive.