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Two-tier face covering bans?

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ITMA2000 · 08/09/2026 14:40

So, some cities are going to introduce bans against face coverings- but it only applies to some people? Am I alone in thinking this is two-tier justice?

Nottingham announces balaclava ban as wearers face mega £1,000 fine for face coverings

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/nottingham-announces-balaclava-ban-as-wearers-face-mega-1-000-fine-for-face-coverings/ar-AA2bMNLq?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEESS&cvid=6aa00e8e2b3841ca821f4e41e5086393&ei=33

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Backedoffhackedoff · 08/09/2026 16:02

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

yet small boat crossing have massively decreased in 2026! Aren’t you happy?

AmethystDeceiver · 08/09/2026 16:03

Puddlewoman · 08/09/2026 15:55

You are what my nan would have called a spuddler. Shouting nonsense trying to stir up trouble for your own entertainment.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10590/

Ooh spuddler! Great term, really conjures up the spluttering and incoherence 😁I'm going to adopt your nan's term!

nomas · 08/09/2026 16:03

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

Who has banned the St George flag?

AuntieBiotics · 08/09/2026 16:03

LakieLady · 08/09/2026 15:49

Motorcyclists often wear them under their helmets, it helps to stop the visor fogging up and adds an extra layer for warmth. I've no idea why they're always black, but I've never seen them in any other colour.

My DF rode motorbikes when I was a kid and lightweight balaclavas weren't a thing. His face was like ice when he got home on a winter night.

We had cotton ones supplied when the kids did go-karting. They were purple I think.

Black has sinister overtones.

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 16:05

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 15:58

I don't think a woman wearing a face covering to stop men having lustful thoughts is a legitimate reason.
Islamic face coverings are a symbol of female oppression, and have no place in British society. They should be banned. As should the wearing of religious symbols, including hijab, by anyone working for the state.

Do you think we should ban Jewish kippahs and Sikh turbans for state workers as well as the hijab?

I have met plenty of women with a hijab in the nhs and it’s never been a problem 🤷🏼‍♀️

LakieLady · 08/09/2026 16:05

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

The government don't "use" the RNLI for anything. It is a charity and the crews are mainly volunteers. Helping anyone in danger on the sea (and some inland waterways) is their primary objective, and rightly so.

Do you really think they should be checking people's immigration status or nationality before they get them out of the water?

BitOutOfPractice · 08/09/2026 16:07

TemperanceWest · 08/09/2026 15:33

I wish they'd ban balaclavas where I am. Might make the little idiots on e-bikes and scooters behave better.

This. No matter how hot it was this summer, these idiot e-bike / e-scooter riders would be dressed up for a snow day. You can’t help wondering why.

I think, op that’s what “the council” are getting at do you can shove your two tier justice bollocks.

Are you always this obtuse op?

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 16:08

Backedoffhackedoff · 08/09/2026 16:02

yet small boat crossing have massively decreased in 2026! Aren’t you happy?

Over half of a very large number is still a very large number.
We'll be happy when the boats have been stopped, and the hundreds of thousands already here deported.

Missedquirks · 08/09/2026 16:09

AuntieBiotics · 08/09/2026 16:03

We had cotton ones supplied when the kids did go-karting. They were purple I think.

Black has sinister overtones.

What a daft point!

On a scooter flying down the high street; running onto shops and clearing shelves and assaulting shop keepers - are you saying you wouldn’t be frightened if the person was wearing a cotton purple baklava instead of a woolly black one @AuntieBiotics

AmethystDeceiver · 08/09/2026 16:09

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

  1. The government are controlling immigration, boat crossings are down
  2. Brexit has led to higher incidences of small boats, and Nigel Farage led the Brexit charge
  3. Flags aren't banned
  4. Brits aren't demonised by the British government
  5. The RNLI is a charity. They save lives at sea. They are not political
Ohdearwhatsthisthen · 08/09/2026 16:10

I'm guessing the people who have a problem with it must live in "naice" areas. Young men (usually on bikes) wearing balaclavas are not comparable to ladies in hijabs ffs.

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 16:10

I don’t love face coverings for women. But I don’t see that these women have much in common with thugs wearing balaclavas whilst causing havoc in their communities. I see the issues as very separate.

BitOutOfPractice · 08/09/2026 16:11

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

Could you break this down for me please?

How did immigration “cause Brexit” and what has it done to reduce immigration?

How are the British being demonised? By whom?

How has “the government” used the RNLI?

TIA

EasternStandard · 08/09/2026 16:11

AmethystDeceiver · 08/09/2026 16:09

  1. The government are controlling immigration, boat crossings are down
  2. Brexit has led to higher incidences of small boats, and Nigel Farage led the Brexit charge
  3. Flags aren't banned
  4. Brits aren't demonised by the British government
  5. The RNLI is a charity. They save lives at sea. They are not political

Brexit isn’t a factor in the EU with the same issues.

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 16:12

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 16:05

Do you think we should ban Jewish kippahs and Sikh turbans for state workers as well as the hijab?

I have met plenty of women with a hijab in the nhs and it’s never been a problem 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yes. All religious symbols.
If demonstrating your religion at all times is that important, get a different job.

Summeriscumin · 08/09/2026 16:13

<looks all around for OP>

Post racist shit and run, eh?

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 16:14

Who is this a problem for?

If our proud patriots are worried about being identified during protests, they can wear a Burqa - sorted!

AuntieBiotics · 08/09/2026 16:15

The all black clothing and black balaclavas are the issue. Hard to ban black hodies and black jeans. Easy to ban black balaclavas.

Backedoffhackedoff · 08/09/2026 16:15

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 16:05

Do you think we should ban Jewish kippahs and Sikh turbans for state workers as well as the hijab?

I have met plenty of women with a hijab in the nhs and it’s never been a problem 🤷🏼‍♀️

They’re not face coverings are they?

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 16:15

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 16:12

Yes. All religious symbols.
If demonstrating your religion at all times is that important, get a different job.

That’s interesting. Because it doesn’t bother me at all. I live in London and I don’t care what people wear as long as I get good service really. What do you find difficult about it?

AmethystDeceiver · 08/09/2026 16:16

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 16:12

Yes. All religious symbols.
If demonstrating your religion at all times is that important, get a different job.

What is your reasoning behind your extreme beliefs? A woman can't wear a cross around her neck now?

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 16:17

Backedoffhackedoff · 08/09/2026 16:15

They’re not face coverings are they?

No. If you read properly, the poster I was addressing said that people working for the state should not wear hijabs, and I asked about that specifically. Hijabs are not a face covering. HTH.

Cuiriossir · 08/09/2026 16:18

Ncforthis2267 · 08/09/2026 14:40

You are alone

Clearly not

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 16:24

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 16:05

Do you think we should ban Jewish kippahs and Sikh turbans for state workers as well as the hijab?

I have met plenty of women with a hijab in the nhs and it’s never been a problem 🤷🏼‍♀️

It wasn't a problem for you, but it might be for someone else. Given the amount of vocal public antisemitism from some doctors, it might be a problem for some Jewish patients.

NHS employees shouldn't wear religious or political symbols. Many female doctors wear hijab now, but until very recently it wasn't common - most Muslim women in this country didn't wear it. I had many Muslim friends when I was at school, and none of them wore it.

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 16:27

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 16:24

It wasn't a problem for you, but it might be for someone else. Given the amount of vocal public antisemitism from some doctors, it might be a problem for some Jewish patients.

NHS employees shouldn't wear religious or political symbols. Many female doctors wear hijab now, but until very recently it wasn't common - most Muslim women in this country didn't wear it. I had many Muslim friends when I was at school, and none of them wore it.

Ok I disagree and think people should be allowed to wear a kippah or hijab or turban if it’s integral to their beliefs, but I accept that some might feel uncomfortable.