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To wonder if Reform voters actually realise that Farage and his cronies are responsible for the increase in migrant boats reaching the UK

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Meadowlands · 04/09/2026 23:15

Because Brexit , for which Farage was a leading advocate, put a stop to the UK being able to send the boats back. Before Brexit there was a returns agreement in place.
So be careful if you think he actually has a clue what he is doing.

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PPAPPINE · 05/09/2026 15:48

KatiePricesKnickers · 05/09/2026 15:36

That doesn’t seem right.
While their claim is being processed the government must house them.

After they are granted or refused asylum, then they only have 42 days to get themselves sorted or present themselves to whichever council they intend to claim housing off.

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I think they are moved to other accommodation after the initial accommodation.

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 15:50

PPAPPINE · 05/09/2026 15:48

I think they are moved to other accommodation after the initial accommodation.

They get accommodation covered though as pp says.

IdaGlossop · 05/09/2026 15:55

randomchap · 05/09/2026 00:36

Farage and reform don't want the boats to stop. They want them there as a permanent scapegoat to point the finger at

As long as they can whip up a frenzy from about 30% of the population then they can win seats.

Then they'll properly and irreversibly fuck the country while enriching their backers at the cost of you and me

He's not a patriot, he's not on your side. He's a cunt who just wants to enrich himself and his mates

He's not on your side. Unless you're a billonaire who donated to him

Happily, the around 30% has dropped to around 20%.

stuckdownahole · 05/09/2026 16:39

Farage and Reform are gaining popularity because neither of the two main parties have done anything about a variety of migration routes, legal and illegal, which bring in people who are a net cost to the UK.

Labour won't do enough because too many of their rank and file MPs are not prepared to say

  • yes, we hear your distressing story but don't believe you and think you are actually an economic migrant, your asylum claim is rejected
  • no, you can't bring your mum to live with you, she's too old to work, speaks no English, and will be a drain on the healthcare system.
  • OK, we understand that when you came to work in this country there was a path to citizenship in place for people like you, but the rules have now changed, so sorry for your disappointment but the best we can now offer is an extension on your working visa.

The Tories have proved that they will say all the above right up to the point where big business whispers in their ear that they want a cheaper workforce, then it's a different story.

5128gap · 05/09/2026 16:50

stuckdownahole · 05/09/2026 16:39

Farage and Reform are gaining popularity because neither of the two main parties have done anything about a variety of migration routes, legal and illegal, which bring in people who are a net cost to the UK.

Labour won't do enough because too many of their rank and file MPs are not prepared to say

  • yes, we hear your distressing story but don't believe you and think you are actually an economic migrant, your asylum claim is rejected
  • no, you can't bring your mum to live with you, she's too old to work, speaks no English, and will be a drain on the healthcare system.
  • OK, we understand that when you came to work in this country there was a path to citizenship in place for people like you, but the rules have now changed, so sorry for your disappointment but the best we can now offer is an extension on your working visa.

The Tories have proved that they will say all the above right up to the point where big business whispers in their ear that they want a cheaper workforce, then it's a different story.

Do you think Reform will ignore those whispers from big business?

stuckdownahole · 05/09/2026 16:54

5128gap · 05/09/2026 16:50

Do you think Reform will ignore those whispers from big business?

Great point. No.

But they haven't proved themselves to be two-faced yet which will give them a degree of credibility the Tories don't have.

Ihateasthma · 05/09/2026 17:59

PPAPPINE · 05/09/2026 15:48

I think they are moved to other accommodation after the initial accommodation.

And it can be to anywhere in the UK.

Windsurf · 05/09/2026 18:20

5128gap · 05/09/2026 11:29

You're barking up the wrong tree with me I'm afraid. I don't despise people on benefits or low incomes. I'm a working class woman from a deprived area who's spent most of my career in roles supporting people others look down on. I don't mock ordinary people, so clearly you and I differ on that. The only people I despise are the corrupt chancers getting rich from exploitating us.
So save your feeble attempts to portray me as sneering at the ordinary folk in order to justify your support for a party who will bring us nothing but harm to feather their own nests. Its tiresome, its old and it doesn't wash anymore I'm afraid.

Another string of clichés.

Exploitatating us?

Windsurf · 05/09/2026 18:22

zurigo · 05/09/2026 13:05

PMSL. I couldn't be further from the descriptions on this list if I tried!

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What does "is hard of thinking skills" mean?

Windsurf · 05/09/2026 18:24

titbumwillypoo · 05/09/2026 13:45

Out of interest, for the people who support Reform, how much a week should be given to the people who as you say haven't put in? Can I have a rough amount to what you think is acceptable?

Only if you can explain what "is hard of thinking skills" means.

5128gap · 05/09/2026 18:28

Windsurf · 05/09/2026 18:20

Another string of clichés.

Exploitatating us?

I've typed a word incorrectly. Are you genuinely asking me what that word is, because you can't work it out? Or are you simply drawing attention to my error to sneer at me, belittle me and imply I'm stupid because you despise working class people?
(See what I did there?)

Chickenlittlelaidanegg · 05/09/2026 19:47

5128gap · 05/09/2026 18:28

I've typed a word incorrectly. Are you genuinely asking me what that word is, because you can't work it out? Or are you simply drawing attention to my error to sneer at me, belittle me and imply I'm stupid because you despise working class people?
(See what I did there?)

I'm not sure what your point is ?

TheFormerMrsTruelove · 05/09/2026 19:52

It’s so refreshing to see so many people on here who understand that Brexit and the boats are unrelated. I’ve seen so many of these threads where there’s just two or three people saying it, in between hoards of posters repeating the same old misinformation, so it’s nice to see that the timing of this post has caught more people who understand what the DA actually was.

5128gap · 05/09/2026 20:05

Chickenlittlelaidanegg · 05/09/2026 19:47

I'm not sure what your point is ?

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of PP bleating about accusing WC people of stupidity, then trying to belittle a WC person who disagrees with them for writing something incorrectly.

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 20:09

5128gap · 05/09/2026 20:05

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of PP bleating about accusing WC people of stupidity, then trying to belittle a WC person who disagrees with them for writing something incorrectly.

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Who was ‘bleating’?

JanefromLondon1 · 05/09/2026 20:36

TangyChina · 05/09/2026 07:51

Good news today, a group of 5 EU countries have been given the go ahead to process and hold migrants in a non EU country and then return them home. Hopefully this will lead the way for us.

Like the Rwanda agreement?

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