To wonder if Reform voters actually realise that Farage and his cronies are responsible for the increase in migrant boats reaching the UK

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Because Brexit , for which Farage was a leading advocate, put a stop to the UK being able to send the boats back. Before Brexit there was a returns agreement in place.
So be careful if you think he actually has a clue what he is doing.

I agree. Also regional conflicts, economic factors, and technology (people smugglers can run everything so much more easily now with phones and internet) that has caused numbers to increase over the years.
I’m no fan of Farage whatsoever and Brexit hasn’t helped dealing with France and other EU allies at all, but to blame it all on Brexit is foolish and simplistic

Accommodation and healthcare while waiting will be a factor. Five EU countries will process in a third country. That’ll be a factor too. It’ll be in a similar or same place as the one Starmer scrapped.

On September 4, 2026, the interior and migration ministers of Denmark, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, and Greece met in Copenhagen and finalized the next concrete steps to establish these offshore deportation centers

It is happening all over Europe. Mass immigration entering the countries illegally. It is not a problem in England only, it is happening all over, the destabilisation of Europe.
Brexit is not the reason as it doesn’t explain why other European countries are in a similar situation.
They’re coming through France a EU country.
The EU is allowing this.
Some people are in control of orchestrating this but I doubt Farage has the power, it is a real life Squid game.
Is Farage also responsible for the 10,000’s who came from Morocco. Nah, someone much bigger is.

I'd understand if we did this because domestic UK poverty was near 0. But then we do this and then they attack so many women here

No.
Immigration was good for people who wanted a cheap Polish plasterer. Not so good for a UK plasterer with a family to support who cant compete with someone here for a couple of years, living 15 to a house and sending every penny back to Poland. Not so good for the economy either!

Farage is responsible for all and sundry if you listen to some of the bizarre people. Take this protestor at the Reform Conference. She's a self-confessed 'actor' who pretends to be a Reform voter so she can gain access to the conferences, purely to disrupt them at some point. Does she sound mentally stable to you? Yet we are told she's one of the intelligent ones. She will be standing with her Refugees welcome signs. Anyone and everyone she will stand for except the white heterosexual man .

If removing these people is important why did Starmer cancel the offshore processing plan on his first day on office? The one 5 European countries are now implementing? Will you be against that removal plan? You seem to want them here solely so you have a anti Brexit anti Farage made up story to tell people to be careful about. Careful about your complete failure to understand?

Yes how are people missing this?

Perhaps the OP can return and explain, when she's available?

If the governments across Europe don’t want political parties who are considered far right then they need to take action.
As an example Poland has a prime minister who has a set of balls.
All the while women, men, children, Christian’s, in parts of India, Sudan, Congo, Nigeria are being persecuted by radicalism, using a machete the same radicals hitting Europe.

I understand the proposals as well as anyone could from the childlike bare bones of a wishlist Reform call their 'manifesto'.
I also understand welfare benefits and the impact of changes to the system. I understand the difference between policies that will actually reduce public spending and those that merely appear to, while actually just moving spending from one place (benefits) to others (NHS, social care, social services, CJS) Do you? If not, you might want to try before you parrot their nonsense.

If you mean the Dublin agreement, this resulted in very few people being moved to another EU country let alone 'going home'.

Thanks eastern I saw this but can't copy or link.

Hopefully now the beloved EU has taken these steps it will be easier for us to implement it.

Illegal migrants are travelling across many countries (including France, a safe place) because they are attracted to all the wonderful benefits we offer, didn't you know?

Brexit was a failure because the faceless organisations running the Government didn't want it to succeed. I say this as someone who voted to stay. If I voted again, I would vote "leave". Sick of it.

That’s a different argument.
There is no doubt the millions that immigrated put a cap on wage rises, but they were economically active and paid taxes.

Yes the same posters who were adamant we couldn’t do it are often pro EU. Now five EU key countries are implementing this whilst Starmer scrapped it on day one.

Agree, people get disgusted and worked up about the terrible far right and how they are growing in popularity.
It's takes a little more thinking to ask "why". What's happening that's pushing people to the far right ??

What can we do to stop that.

I guess a little like naracists they can't do that because they can't confront themselves or their ideals.

Personally I think Angela merkel should be held accountable for her actions.

@TangyChina Good to see someone mentioning Merkel, she did play a huge opening role in the migrant crisis didn’t she.

And ruining things for German women

This.

Same in Ireland. There was a lower rate set for this seeking asylum before 2022 but once the Ukraine war started and the new immigration arrivals were white, it changed from 41 per week to 250 per week, same as an unemployed single person, with added housing benefit, usually a hotel, no electricity or heating expenses, no rent,
Before that it wasn’t attractive and every other hotel wasn’t being used.
The government were attempting to be openly racist by just given the higher rate to Ukrainian people but that was not fair. They should have kept it somewhere in the middle range. Hindsight.
It has caused resentment as many out-earn full time workers in benefits.

Well said MNers on Merkel. If ever you want to see a woman who was not looking after other women, no need to look elsewhere. She rode roughshod over Germany's citizens and I believe the conspiracy about a wider problem goes as far back as her time in office. Somebody is behind this immigration influx.

There are none so blind as those who will not see

You can't send someone back to a country if they 'don't remember' where they came from
You can't send people back unless the other country accepts them back and has a robust Home Office equivalent
There is a list of countries you can't send people back to full stop
There is a long list of legal reasons why someone can't be sent back.
There is a reason why most asylum seekers are given leave to remain and has little to do with them needing refuge
The list goes on.
Reform is not going to solve this with a wish list.

Yes and that long list of reasons as to why they can't be sent back, is being abused.