AIBU to suggest poor public behaviour should affect access to services?

[Liggety]

Following many recent threads about what is and is not permissible in a decent society, can we agree on a list of actions that should exclude you from accessing state services?

To start with:

Using a phone on loudspeaker anywhere outwith your own home.
Wearing PJs outwith your own home.
Playing music - inside or outside - so loudly it can be heard by neighbours.
Cycling on the pavements (cycling is my main mode of transport btw).
Wearing balaclavas outwith the high mountains.
Riding an illegal e-scooter or e-bike.
Having an off-lead dog in public that is not under your full control.
Dropping litter.
Wearing scrunch bum leggings and other revolting clothing in public.
Swearing in public.
Driving without using your indicators.
Men without a top on in public.
Working cash in hand, or paying cash in hand for work done while knowing or suspecting tax may not be accounted for by the service provider.

Some of the above are more tongue in cheek than others by all indicate no grace, style or manners and we need to remove them from our culture.

What are you adding to the list?

Some of these should be unlawful and carry a sanction. Properly define what is indecent exposure (where no one can be topless male or female), lack of indicator use meaning points on a driving licence, for example.

If you are going to deny service, also consider things that will really hurt for repeat offenders. Loud use of your phone, lose the phone number, for example.

This too. Why on earth do people think it’s an acceptable thing to do? I’ll remember dead uncle Jim by choking a few cows to death and causing a wildfire. It’s what he would have wanted!

😂😂😂😂😂

I love outwith. But DH hates it!

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When i read the OP I agreed with the serious points - the actual.illegal things - and I took the other things not to be serious.
Now I'm actually rather annoyed at a couple of the posts where OP has quoted me and had a go at what I've said for absolutely no reason. So I have rather lost sympathy with her and tbh I wish id never posted on the thread at all.
I hadnt. anticipated the threadt aking the turn it has.

Or your tax bracket!

Yeah I’ve found her replies to you to be odd. It makes it even clearer she knew what she was doing. You were defending her when I had called her out on the original post but then got it in the neck - bizarre.

I just get a little frustrated because people start these threads all of the time…and despite knowing it’s rage bait, this one pulled me in like a dope 🤦‍♀️

The NHS is a state service. So is the benefits system. Social services. The council. The police. Many others.

You want people who you disapprove to be barred from the services that keep them safe and alive.

You want them suffering, possibly dead.

If a woman is raped and beaten whilst wearing pjs, presumably the police should not render assistance.

Tongue in cheek, my arse.

Removing services for minor infractions against YOUR point of view is an abhorrent suggeston.

Do you think you're funny.

What nastiness.

Ooh let's start a thread to bitch about people we look down on and say some shitty things and pretend it's just for the lols
how very sophisticated

Just readying myself to make this point. Thanks.

I'm adding-
Missing your appointments
Turning up late for your appointments
On the rare occasion you turn up on time or God forbid early- whinging if I am running 10 minutes late

And people who stride along looking at the phone not what's going round them The person who they expect to move might have poor sight or poor mobility.Actually arrogance like that deserves a good punch not just refusing services

Just to add the missed appointments get a phone call and a letter .
And I will 99% see latecomers because it isn't in anyone's interest not to .
But we have the frequent flyers who know this .

I still stand by my convictions for the mobile phone idiots especially if the6 have headphones too. A thrashing is too good for them

Missing appointments is going on the list, but can I also add piss poor NHS admin too. I’ve taken the morning off work to get to a hospital appointment before to have been told that they cancelled it, even though no letter was sent. Then there’s the times that your left waiting for ages and ages. We shouldn’t have to be grateful to have the crumbs of a healthcare system just because ‘it’s the NHS’. We should be asking for a properly functioning healthcare system. But yes a good deal of the issue in healthcare is waste due to people who miss their appointment.

I'd certainly like to ban people who park on pavements from public life.

I'd settle for their cars being removed and crushed though. I suspect it would only have to happen a few times and they'd stop doing it.

As for missing appointments, potentially. But there's a big but - one is the fact that the NHS insists on sending out letters which arrive after an appointment - you can't very well attend an appointment you didn't know about. And they claim not to be able to send reminders "cos data protection". Nonsense - lots of NHS services do, as do dentists, hairdressers etc.

The other big but is that GPs like to disingenously claim that they've had loads of missed appointments that month. I don't believe it. So few people get a face to face appointment (at least with the GP, nurses may be different) that I don't think they miss them at all. And a telephone appointment isn't an appointment - if you miss a call because they rang at a random time and you were on the loo or driving, that's their fault for not giving a specific time or at least window.

What's wrong with it? It's Scottish. I quite like it!

I sometimes have my radio on loud speaker on dog walks when I forget my headphones. The one person I see per hour might catch 10 seconds of it as we cross paths. I feel like society can live with that??

Reported

Used in most of Scotland . I can't think what word I'd use instead.

Why?

But why? Why not use headphones? The quality would be better and you’d not be disturbing others. Presumably you’d walk past houses?

Class isn’t a thing. Also you’re too ranty. You are tiring yourself out.

I’m also trying to work out what other word I’d use instead. Outwith the house = away from the house maybe?

I’m in a ranty mood. Been on a bus when someone was listening to some sort of video on their phone this morning. I just can’t think in what world they see that as acceptable.

Fair enough. You are quite funny though, I bet you’re actually hilarious company.