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To not want to give my DSD the money we would have spent on her holiday

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ZestLemon · Yesterday 17:01

We're a family of five: myself, my husband, our two children (12 & 14), and my stepdaughter, who is 18.

My stepdaughter lives with her mum full time and is very much in independent 'mode' now, so rather than following a set routine she comes over whenever she wants.

We're booked to go to Disney World in Florida next year with our two children doe 3 weeks, we are doing all the big attractions such as universal too. We invited my stepdaughter to come too, but she has said Disney isn't really her thing and she didn't think she'd enjoy it. Fine, not a problem!

However, her mum has now had the cheek texted saying that because my stepdaughter isn't coming, we should give DSD the equivalent amount of money that we would have spent on her so she can go on holiday with her friends instead.....

AIBU, or is she mad?!? We have said no but she is now texting all sorts of abuse.

The Disney trip is costing us over 10k and we are only doing a cheap trip this year to save for it.
Yes, we have spent less because she's chosen not to come, but that was entirely her decision.

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anrom1969 · Yesterday 19:00

ZestLemon · Yesterday 17:09

CMS will be stopping next month as she left college this year!!

You sound gleeful about this . Will you be binning your kids off when they turn 18 ? I don’t mean to be insensitive but children are your children for ever ,

dreamingbohemian · Yesterday 19:00

I actually find it appalling your husband isn't planning to contribute to her university costs at all. 10K for a luxury trip for his new family, zero for something as vital as a degree?

You say she'll get max loans like it's a good thing, have you not been paying attention to the student loan scandal and how young people are being drowned in debt bc of high interest rates?

His ex is unreasonable but maybe she understands that a shift and a half at min wage won't go far no matter how cheap the area is.

Bearbookagainandagain · Yesterday 19:00

ZestLemon · Yesterday 18:02

She will be moving out when she goes to Uni. Her mum wont be financing her home wise as I said the rent is cheap where she has a place. DSD will also be working part time as her job is at a large chain and they are willing to transfer her as shes a good little worker.

CMS won't stop next month then. She'll still be on full time education at Uni...?

WildLeader · Yesterday 19:00

Boreded · Yesterday 18:57

She isn’t too old to go to Florida, she is being a baby about it. It is a holiday for all ages, not just kids.

A friend of mine just did Disney again with her kids, eldest is 20, youngest is 15.

personally I don’t like theme parks but many many adults absolutely do, it’s definitely not just for kids

Lovesacake · Yesterday 19:02

ZestLemon · Yesterday 18:00

He was helping her with the cost of a holiday, the holiday to disney!

🤦‍♀️ omg if you really can’t understand that it’s a nice thing for a dad to give his daughter a bit of money towards a holiday with her friends when she’s 18 then I give up!

Gymnopedie · Yesterday 19:02

ZestLemon · Yesterday 18:02

She will be moving out when she goes to Uni. Her mum wont be financing her home wise as I said the rent is cheap where she has a place. DSD will also be working part time as her job is at a large chain and they are willing to transfer her as shes a good little worker.

I agree she doesn't get a lump sum in lieu of a holiday. I also agree that her mum is seeing one last chance to get some cash as CMS comes to an end. If you gave DSD the full £2,500 I wonder how much of it she would actually see.

However I'm not sure about this post I've quoted. You haven't answered directly whether your husband will be paying towards her uni costs but given that you've avoided it (and that you have given reasons why she apparently won't need it) I suspect the answer is no. I'm not sure I like his attitude. His - or yours - seems to be that 'if I don't HAVE to, I'm not going to.' Most parents, if they can, offer some support to their kids at uni. Assuming - as you're going to Disney - that you could it seems very tight not to. That's between him and DSD, her mum isn't part of it.

Boreded · Yesterday 19:03

Dublassie · Yesterday 18:32

It’s really cheeky to ask but I would definitely have given her something. I can see why an 18 year old does not want to go to Disney .
So it would be nice to give her maybe à thousand . She is only 18 - that’s very young .

Give her a grand because she decided she doesn’t want to go on an all expenses paid holiday…why?

she is an adult, she either goes or she doesn’t but she doesn’t get a grand. Maybe some spending money for a holiday she has paid for herself as a treat, but not a holiday.

And why do so many people think that 18 year olds don’t want to go to Disney…mine is 18 and has been every (non-Covid) year since he was 2…he is never going to stop loving it. My late 60s mother started coming back with us after my dad passed (he couldn’t come as was paraplegic) and loves it. I don’t think people realise how amazing a trip to Orlando actually is, for all ages.

Boreded · Yesterday 19:04

Datafan55 · Yesterday 18:34

An 18 year old isn't going to enjoy going to Disney, I'm afraid. You have chosen that instead of a holiday all of you can go on.

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Tell me you know nothing about Disney World without telling me 🤦‍♀️

You know it’s not just princesses and baby rides right?

chocoluv · Yesterday 19:05

Focalpoint · Yesterday 17:14

Demanding an equivalent amount is unreasonable. I don’t think it unreasonable for parents to contribute to an 18 year olds first holiday with friends, especially first summer after leaving school if they aren’t working and aren’t going on a family holiday.

I agree with this.

No one should be demanding anything and it doesn’t have to be the full amount but by her not going it is saving you hundreds of pounds.

I wouldn’t think twice about contributing to my 18yos holiday with her friends.

mcmuffin22 · Yesterday 19:05

I would just block the mum.

ThisISmycircusandtheseAREmymonkeys · Yesterday 19:06

Datafan55 · Yesterday 18:34

An 18 year old isn't going to enjoy going to Disney, I'm afraid. You have chosen that instead of a holiday all of you can go on.

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Pretty sure churros, Guardian of the galaxy and Star Wars don't have an upper age limit.
😄 In fact at 18 you're old enough to appreciate the snacks AND the rollercoasters. Sounds ideal.

And at around 25 you start appreciating just sitting by the water in Celebration having a cup of coffee and watch the turtles!

ZestLemon · Yesterday 19:06

Datafan55 · Yesterday 18:34

An 18 year old isn't going to enjoy going to Disney, I'm afraid. You have chosen that instead of a holiday all of you can go on.

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Disney is for everyone, not just children.

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WildLeader · Yesterday 19:07

@ZestLemon honestly, as dsd is 18, all contact is direct, her mother doesn’t need to be in contact at all, so block her on all phones and restrict her to email only

this is what worked for my h and his batshit ex.

Hayley1256 · Yesterday 19:07

Your a DSD's mum is being unreasonable but I hope her dad is still planning on supporting her a bit through uni. It sounds like your planning to not support her at all

ZestLemon · Yesterday 19:08

PartoftheBand · Yesterday 18:38

Obviously parents have the final say but I definitely discuss holiday plans a bit with DD who is now 19, to see if there's anything in particular she'd like to do there, as she's part of the family!

We are already doing Disney, Universal, discovery cove, sea world... Not sure what else I was supposed to offer?

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Perimama · Yesterday 19:08

ZestLemon · Yesterday 17:16

She works part time so has money to pay for her own holiday. She has already been away with her friends to Ibiza last month.

Did you contribute towards the holiday in Ibiza? I think it would be nice to contribute to one trip away with friends post a levels. I think it is ludicrous that you would give her the exact amount that you would save from not taking her to Disney though.

Maray1967 · Yesterday 19:08

Boreded · Yesterday 17:48

Haha I love this.

A couple of years ago mine said to me (I’m paraphrasing): ‘When me and GF start paying to go, you’ll still come and organise it all for us won’t you?’

Yes son, I will continue to have these trips, and you can come on all of them, bring an entire family, wife and kids, whatever…if I get to keep going to Disney with him even when he has a family of his own then I’ll be ecstatic. I don’t think he will ever stop travelling with us.

Ds26 and GF came with us on a five day break earlier in the year - but they did pay for three evening meals!

TheBlueKoala · Yesterday 19:09

ZestLemon · Yesterday 18:16

No we didn't. I didn't discuss it with my children either. I presented them with a holiday and they accepted and they are excited.

Discussions come when they pay for themselves.

Which is absolutely reasonable in the real world. Can't imagine giving my children money in exchange if they don't want to come on a holiday with us! The mum is batshit crazy! I would tell her "the offer is a holiday not cash".

SD1978 · Yesterday 19:09

Nope. The offer was the holiday, she doesn’t want to go, fine, there isn’t a cash reward instead

ZestLemon · Yesterday 19:10

Boreded · Yesterday 18:52

Have you done Disney with them before?

Yes we have already been to orlando.

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tomatoplants · Yesterday 19:10

Absolutely mad.

she’s been offered a holiday. She declined. Game over.

if she wants a different holiday - she can pay.

Datafan55 · Yesterday 19:11

YouBelongWithMe · Yesterday 18:39

Emphatically disagree. I'd argue we had a better time in Disney when ours were older teens (including an 18yr old) than when they were younger.

Quite a few disagreements with me saying that, so maybe I'm wrong. No I've never been (or wished to). But I would have been mortified at the thought of going to Disney at age 18 (or 14, btw). Maybe she is envisaging having to tag along with the younger kids and their happy parents...

0Thatsplenty0 · Yesterday 19:11

anrom1969 · Yesterday 19:00

You sound gleeful about this . Will you be binning your kids off when they turn 18 ? I don’t mean to be insensitive but children are your children for ever ,

Haha, how does she sound 'gleeful'? She was answering a question put to her.

deeahgwitch · Yesterday 19:11

Focalpoint · Yesterday 17:14

Demanding an equivalent amount is unreasonable. I don’t think it unreasonable for parents to contribute to an 18 year olds first holiday with friends, especially first summer after leaving school if they aren’t working and aren’t going on a family holiday.

I agree.
I would definitely contribute to her holiday.

ZestLemon · Yesterday 19:12

anrom1969 · Yesterday 19:00

You sound gleeful about this . Will you be binning your kids off when they turn 18 ? I don’t mean to be insensitive but children are your children for ever ,

Gleeful? I wrote one sentence...

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