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To be sick of politicians using 'fairness' as justification for tax rises?

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Itchthescratch · 21/07/2026 07:46

Fairness is completely subjective and I notice that this is often shorthand for giving more money to those that contribute the least.

Of course there will always be those that can't contribute much due to factors outside of their control, but we are kidding ourselves if we pretend that there aren't already lots of people that are scraping by doing the bare minimum (sometimes even less) and making completely irresponsible decisions knowing the state will ultimately insulate them from the consequences.

I personally know people that have had lots of children that they can't afford and can't parent properly simply because they wanted to. They are now on an incredible amount of money as the two child cap has been lifted. I know people that have stopped working because they weren't much better off than being on benefits and they couldn't be bothered with the hassle. I know young people that are already planning to stay on disability benefits their whole lives for mental health issues as they want to stay home and game.

Is it really 'fair' to charge the rest of us more to subsidise all of this?

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Itchthescratch · Today 06:39

OriginalUsername2 · Today 00:20

I don’t think the poll holds much weight statistically.

It's as valid as any other poll on this forum. Yougov and other major pollsters have covered many adjacent questions and show that again, the majority of the population generally agree with me:

https://yougov.com/en-gb/trackers/do-brits-think-that-benefits-are-too-high
https://yougov.com/en-gb/trackers/are-we-taxing-and-spending-the-right-amount

Do Brits think that benefits are too high? 2019-2026

And thinking about the level of benefits, do you think they are too high, too low, or is the balance about right?

https://yougov.com/en-gb/trackers/do-brits-think-that-benefits-are-too-high

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BIossomtoes · Today 07:36

You can get any poll result you want if you phrase the questions in the right way and/or ask a group of people who know nothing whatsoever about what they’re being asked.

ClarkeandNewman · Today 09:17

Itchthescratch · Today 06:31

This is such a terrible analogy. It's a thread I started and have been active on throughout , I have been quoted often by the poster who has been unbelievably goady.

I haven't been anything of the sort.

ClarkeandNewman · Today 09:20

Itchthescratch · Today 06:39

It's as valid as any other poll on this forum. Yougov and other major pollsters have covered many adjacent questions and show that again, the majority of the population generally agree with me:

https://yougov.com/en-gb/trackers/do-brits-think-that-benefits-are-too-high
https://yougov.com/en-gb/trackers/are-we-taxing-and-spending-the-right-amount

That says a lot about political and media discourse during the time period specified. It's very interesting to see the after effects of austerity rhetoric.

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