What is going on in this house?

[Neighbourmystery]

Right, this is going to sound nosy but here goes...
A house in a street I know was owned by an old lady with no family. When she died, her house stood empty for nearly a year then it started having work done. It's been bought by a health service far away from he town we live in (think I live in Liverpool and NHS Devon and Cornwall bought it) BTW these are not the real locations. So, they do lots of renovations, including putting a much higher fence up which has a key code entry they also put frosted film on every window. There's a new build extension on the side with coded keypads too. This is where 2 carers are. There are 4 carers altogether, 2 at a time and then a swap. There is one man who lives there . He is in his 30s , able bodied can move well etc I've seen him once or twice in the garden in a whole year. Another twice I saw a darkened van come to get him. He was only gone for an hour or so then back.
I cannot imagine the scenario this might be. I'm not curtain twitching and permanently watching but I am fascinated.

I think you need a new hobby OP

I would be curious too if it was near me.

You may be able to search planning permissions on your local council website. Very surprised that nothing has been in the local press as this sort of thing is loved by them to create drama locally. We have a few homes nearby that have been converted into children's homes and the press had a field day trying to stir up trouble.

I work in care and yes from what youve said the man has support to live in the community, which requires the two carers and the home adaptions.

Such a large support package is rare but not unheard of at all.

I think the responses suggesting witness protection and ex- criminal pysch patient are off the mark in my opinion. (I've also worked in forensic pysch rehab and have never heard of someone released from a hospital order into scenario like you've described)

You said Liverpool and Devon in your first post, which are l
a lot further apart than 90 mins. 90 mins isn’t that far. Plenty of people commute that distance to work daily.

Why would the press be interested in one man moving into an adapted living facility with two carers. Unless he’s Elvis, it’s not remotely newsworthy.

Patient confidentiality is for the patient, not for the building.
If I visit a building that's a mental hospital, people who work in the mental hospital don't have to lie about it being a mental hospital just in case someone sees me go in and out, they just wouldn't say anything about my treatment.

So, what is this house being used for by the NHS is a valid question imo.
As there is only one patient I suppose they may decide not to answer, but I don't see why you can't ask.

If the person is a criminal or potentially dangerous?
Facilities for homeless people also sometimes get that kind of bad press.

"90 mins isn’t that far. Plenty of people commute that distance to work daily."

An hour and a half one way to do a lowly paid carer's job? I can't believe that unless the commute is also paid and part of working hours, which it would be if the staff are transferred from a different trust.

Why would you assume the person is criminal or dangerous though?

You’ve conflated two things. OP suggested it was a similar distance to Devon and Liverpool - several hours - and then said it was 90 mins. 90 mins isn’t that far. Many people commute 90 mins (or more) to work. It was a general observation: I didn’t suggest the carers were travelling that far daily (they clearly aren’t as they are staying over).

I don't know, op, but please try not to term/ assume this man as "dangerous", "ex crim" and suchlike, as others are. He might be ill, and it's really unfair for people to create drama and start rumours.

I too would be naturally curious, like when a new neighbour moves in and you wonder who they are, but I wouldn't dream of asking anyone.

Have you considered a hobby?

I don't necessarily assume that, but it's one of the suggestions given on the thread.

I think 90 minutes is very far and a VERY long commute. When you say, many people do it, what kinds of people? I would think it's only worth it for extremely good jobs on very high salaries and possibly people working around London. Why would someone in a normal job spend 3 hours commuting daily?

The carers are staying over when they're on shift I suppose, but we don't know where they are the rest of the time, whether they live locally and work for the far away trust or they commute from that one every few days.

No, you haven't. You've decleared your assumptions based on how he looks.

Probably a supported living place maybe MH if you do not think he is disabled. The van maybe was a private ambulance he could have been to a clinic or Dr

A lot of posters on MN have double standards and are closet twats.

90 mins on public transport is nothing here in the Welsh valleys. 15 miles from Cardiff in a straight line but it’s an hour on the bus plus the walk at each end. Plenty of people who work in retail, healthcare etc do it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

How do you know he's healthy and able?

Anyway, if you want my random speculation- the man is very dependent on his carers and routine and has been involved in some sort of witness/criminal situation or something else that required that he be removed from his previous location. It would have been too much for him to move to a new area and have new carers so they sent his carers with him.

Either that or (more likely) he requires specialist care which wasn't available in his previous area so he's been moved to where you are so he can access a specific consultant or therapy.

I don’t disagree. It’s a messy system, and in fact magnifies the problem of miscommunication and/or disconnection between agencies. In our previous residence, it would be a breach of contract to have a male on the premises. The same agency has placed us here, and their parent agency has placed these neighbours nextdoor. Bureaucracy, hey! 🤷🏻‍♀️😅

I literally work in a setting like this as a support worker. The individual lives in a detatched bungalow and has 3 to 1 carers 24 hours a day. We do 12 hour shifts and rotate. Autistic and LD- nothing to do with criminal convictions or anything like that. Secure doors and gates, tinted windows ect for individuals own safety and dignity.

Not read whole thread but I work in housing and our health and social care partners are always looking for a house like this,for people with complex/multiple mental and or physical health disabilites who are either not safe to themselves or to the local community to live by themselves and need 24 hr care. The person may have been in hospital long term awaiting discharge to the right home.
Bungalows are a favoured house type and most would need adaptaions ans security measures.

I have loads of hobbies thanks. Might need to read all my posts

This is eugenics 🤢 people with disabilities have a right to be part of the world ..and not be imprisoned

I am now invested. I reckon it could be a 'Men in Black' type alien household.